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[Nightengale]

This is very true, but MS also made a huge mistake not making more white consoles, it seems to have sold out very quickly in the US, whether that was for SO or the white itself is another thing.

They did do a lot of advertising for it though. Im hoping MS will bundle it at some point.

Their mistake(in the context of SSO) was also clearly throwing their entire kitchen sink on the ACU bundle. At this point, I'd say it's fair to assume AC bundles was 90% of their production or more.

With that kind of push for another product that also adds another game, you're effectively burying another bundle with a new IP, white or not.

 

[C4Lukins]

I think that both the PS4 and Xone are going to battle in the 180k range in January. The winner will be withen 10k of the loser. I think PS4 will win by 7000 units.

 

[John Harker]

I thought The Crew could pull it out but it just got dominated by DC. Daaaaaamn.

I think you got that backwards my man.

As for the question of ubi's expectations... No idea.
But I wager they are pleased at least, it's a solid start considering their last racing title was way, Driver SF? This is probably close to like 4x that debut. I wouldn't be surprised if they shipped close to or at 1mm world wide with digital.

 

[Steverulez]

I think that both the PS4 and Xone are going to battle in the 180k range in January. The winner will be withen 10k of the loser. I think PS4 will win by 7000 units.

Cboat is that you?!

Probably right, although MS had half the month at $399

 

[ninjablade]

That... Actually puts it into perspective a little bit better. Ninjablade can cancel his smile

This has nothing to with bayo 2 being on wiiu, the whole concept, character design and world was never gonna sell in the west, and bayo got 360k of its sales from japan on ps3/360.

 

[CosmicQueso]

I think you got that backwards my man.

As for the question of ubi's expectations... No idea.
But I wager they are pleased at least, it's a solid start considering their last racing title was way, Driver SF? This is probably close to like 4x that debut. I wouldn't be surprised if they shipped close to or at 1mm world wide with digital.

Nah we had a bet going as to which would do worst and I bet on the crew. I lost that bet, badly.

 

[donny2112]

I think that both the PS4 and Xone are going to battle in the 180k range in January. The winner will be withen 10k of the loser. I think PS4 will win by 7000 units.

Microsoft's first two weeks in January will be dead. That's when it was raised back up to $400. Not sure reducing back to $350 for the last two weeks is going to really overcome that to have a decent month.

 

[Chobel]

I think you got that backwards my man.

As for the question of ubi's expectations... No idea.
But I wager they are pleased at least, it's a solid start considering their last racing title was way, Driver SF? This is probably close to like 4x that debut. I wouldn't be surprised if they shipped close to or at 1mm world wide with digital.

He's joking

 

[The Shogun]

At this point, I'd say it's fair to assume AC bundles was 90% of their production or more.

For November / December? EASILY

 

[Amir0x]

Yep. Forza 6, Halo 5, QB, and maybe Gears collection. MS sure like to go all in at the back part of the year

There's at least one other major game Microsoft is going to get in there. There's also Screamride for March, although that'll probably sell a combined total of 2 1/2 units.

They got a bunch of interesting downloadables if XBO is your platform of choice, Below and Ori and whatnot. Good games are good games, retail or not. Plenty to keep XBO owners busy

 

[A Human Becoming]

Blah bed time. Hopefully we will learn the numbers behind the graphs for last gen and handhelds within the next 24 hours!

 

[ProvenDeadly]

There's at least one other major game Microsoft is going to get in there. There's also Screamride for March, although that'll probably sell a combined total of 2 1/2 units.

They got a bunch of interesting downloadables if XBO is your platform of choice, Below and Ori and whatnot. Good games are good games, retail or not. Plenty to keep XBO owners busy

Inside as well.

 

[Busaiku]

> 890K, 4 ~ 56%

Persona Q did 890k!
Wonderful!

Spoiler

This isn't true, don't take it seriously.

 

[allan-bh]

Microsoft is fine for H2, but H1 doesn't look good.

 

[sith ewok]

Disappointed that Sunset Overdrive hasn't done better. It's such a fantastic game...

 

[Nightengale]

For November / December? EASILY

...95%...?

 

[John Harker]

I'm also interested in the FF games that were out this year. Namely if FFX HD maintained its lead over LR.

I don't have it in front of me anymore but from what I recall vita version was over 115k. Which is kind of stellar.

Hell, only thing I've played on vita since Tearaway.

 

[donny2112]

only thing I've olaued on vita since Tearaway.

Remember the home keys!

 

[Steverulez]

I'll be very interested to see how State of Decay Year One Survival Edition does at retail, the original 360/PC release didn't get it but sold over 2m

Spoiler

(obviously I'm not expecting it to sell consoles either incase anyone thinks I'm suggesting that)

and was $20 on XBL/Steam with various price cuts later on.

 

[TomShoe]

...95%...?

More like 100%, considering you can turn any vanilla XBO into an ACU bundle by putting some download codes in the box and slipping a cheap sleeve over it.

 

[hodayathink]

Bundles, price drops (possibly word of mouth too?) did well for it, it picked up a lot after a fairly average start I think? Might be wrong

I think it came out today that it was the best selling current-gen exclusive in the UK this year with bundles included, so it looks like it did well over there (even if it took bundles to get there).

 

[C4Lukins]

Cboat is that you?!

Probably right, although MS had half the month at $399

No I do not invent bull shit insider numbers. I simply pull numbers out of my ass like most of us in this community.

 

[The Shogun]

More like 100%, considering you can turn any vanilla XBO into an ACU bundle by putting some download codes in the box and slipping a cheap sleeve over it.

Ding ding ding we have a winner!

Early bundles were leftover stock with a cut out placed over them and a game code added. BF / December shipments were actual new shipment bundles with real boxes.

 

[Amir0x]

Inside as well.

Is Cuphead coming out in 2015 early?

 

[DarkLordMalik]

I don't have it in front of me anymore but from what I recall vita version was over 115k. Which is kind of stellar.

Hell, only thing I've played on vita since Tearaway.

Thanks for the number. This doesn't include Digital, which should add a bit more (there were several discounts on the PSN store). Not really bad for Vita IMO. PS3 might have double/triple the sales of Vita, I assume.

This has nothing to with bayo 2 being on wiiu, the whole concept, character design and world was never gonna sell in the west, and bayo got 360k of its sales from japan on ps3/360.

You are implying that Japan cares for Bayonetta. Why did Bayo 2 flop then?

 

[Chobel]

I'll be very interested to see how State of Decay Year One Survival Edition does at retail, the original 360/PC release didn't get it but sold over 2m

Spoiler

(obviously I'm not expecting it to sell consoles either incase anyone thinks I'm suggesting that)

and was $20 on XBL/Steam with various price cuts later on.

What's its price? $30?

 

[LOCK]

Good luck with that.

Why do you say that? I'm almost positive 2015 will be an up year YOY in software.

 

[ZSaberLink]

Excluding bundles, looks like it.

With bundles, seems like TLOU R just barely crosses over a million thanks to 300+k BF bundle.

Titanfall XB1 as well....

 

[allan-bh]

I don't have it in front of me anymore but from what I recall vita version was over 115k. Which is kind of stellar.

Hell, only thing I've played on vita since Tearaway.

Vita situation is sad.

 

[Steverulez]

What's its price? $30?

We'll find out at 6am PT on Tuesday

 

[True Samurai]

DC: 84k

Good lord is that lifetime sales?

 

[C4Lukins]

Is Cuphead coming out in 2015 early?

I doubt it. We have only seen like 30 seconds of gameplay so far taken from 3 or 4 scenarios.

 

[DarkLordMalik]

Why do you say that? I'm almost positive 2015 will be an up year YOY in software.

Nintendo hasn't announced anything important to support this notion. Zelda alone isn't enough. Maybe Animal Crossing and a console Pokemon?

 

[StevieP]

Thanks for the number. This doesn't include Digital, which should add a bit more (there were several discounts on the PSN store). Not really bad for Vita IMO. PS3 might have double/triple the sales of Vita, I assume.


You are implying that Japan cares for Bayonetta. Why did Bayo 2 flop then?

Japan doesn't want consoles or console games any longer.

 

[ProvenDeadly]

Is Cuphead coming out in 2015 early?

Unknown

 

[AdanVC]

So basically it was a good month for the three companies right?? So glad to see Wii U in particular doing really good. It's best so far actually! Here's hope the console can walk peacefully and earn aceptable profits from now on to Nintendo.

 

[Mass Effect]

Wait, do Ori and Below finally have release dates?

Good lord is that lifetime sales?

Not surprising. US=niche market for racers, no marketing, broken at launch, middling reviews, negative word of mouth (from it being broken).

Yeah, I kind of feel bad for Evolution.

 

[LOCK]

Nintendo hasn't announced anything important to support this notion. Zelda alone isn't enough. Maybe Animal Crossing and a console Pokemon?

Well to clarify I wasn't only referencing Nintendo. And they should have an up year as well with continued evergreen sales of past titles and new titles. Maybe not 75% up YOY but I expect it to be up some.

 

[ZSaberLink]

Nintendo hasn't announced anything important to support this notion. Zelda alone isn't enough. Maybe Animal Crossing and a console Pokemon?

It absolutely can't. I don't see any software that has been announced besides Zelda providing a significant boost to Wii U hardware sales this year. 2014 was the peak of this thing's life.

To answer your questions.... Except a price cut... or multiple... the Wii U is still too expensive for what it is, and way more expensive than any other console Nintendo's had. The GC was already $99, and the N64 had quite a few price cuts as well. The problem is whether Nintendo can afford it or not. I think we'll at least see it at $199 by the end of this year.

Also, I think Nintendo should also push Splatoon hard. If it can pull off at least Hyrule #s it'll be a good start, but I think it has the potential to do more if the cards are played right.

 

[jjonez18]

So PS4 sold ~1.8m in NA and ~2.3m in Rest of the world in the November + December? Nice split.

 

[Steverulez]

Wait, do Ori and Below finally have release dates?

Capy not being committed to a date. We may find out Ori on Tuesday as well, Ken Lobb said Feb or March

 

[DarkLordMalik]

Well to clarify I wasn't only referencing Nintendo. And they should have an up year as well with continued evergreen sales of past titles and new titles. Maybe not 75% up YOY but I expect it to be up some.

Sorry then. I was under the assumption that you were talking about Nintendo only.

In the case of PS4/XBO, I am positive that 2015 will be bigger than 2014 (Halo, Uncharted, current gen COD, Destiny etc).

I don't know about Nintendo though. Zelda is their big holiday title (if it gets released in 2015) and other than that, we don't really know about their release strategy. Past titles don't really push hardware.

 

[kyser73]

Wait, do Ori and Below finally have release dates?



Not surprising. US=niche market for racers, no marketing, broken at launch, middling reviews, negative word of mouth (from it being broken).

Yeah, I kind of feel bad for Evolution.

Also - NPD doesn't count digital sales.

 

[Thunder Monkey]

The turn around to still not have any conceivable chance at hitting GCN numbers, which Iwata said would be a failure in the past. "Turn around" is a very liberally used phrase these days

And yet Nintendo would love to achieve it at this point. I can only imagination how truly unprofitable the venture has been.

For all the knocks about the GCN for 3rd party releases and sales, they were in another stratosphere compared to WiiU.

13 million units and a relatively varied 3rd party release schedule are a much better position than what they're currently looking at in NA. Where I think they'll get to more or less 6 million units with WiiU before their next hardware releases. Could get to seven million units with some steep price cuts. But I don't realistically think so.

I don't think it's in question that WiiU is the new barometer for Nintendo failure. Enough so that GCN would be a good leap.

It is funny, totes man, but that's just the level of failure WiiU is.

 

[Amir0x]

And yet Nintendo would love to achieve it at this point. I can only imagination how truly unprofitable the venture has been.

For all the knocks about the GCN for 3rd party releases and sales, they were in another stratosphere compared to WiiU.

13 million units and a relatively varied 3rd party release schedule are a much better position than what they're currently looking at in NA. Where I think they'll get to more or less 6 million units with WiiU before their next hardware releases. Could get to seven million units with some steep price cuts. But I don't realistically think so.

I don't think it's in question that WiiU is the new barometer for Nintendo failure. Enough so that GCN would be a good leap.

It is funny, totes man, but that's just the level of failure WiiU is.

yup. I mean the system can be profitable, but I always do like to play around with folk who keep calling this a turnaround. This is not a turnaround by any conceivable stretch of the imagination. This is just the Hindenburg disaster in slower motion is all.

I love the Wii U, but my gosh the system is going to top out optimistically at what at this point worldwide? 15 million? 16? I can't even figure how we can stretch it much further at this point

 

[RespectThySole]

Wait, do Ori and Below finally have release dates?



Not surprising. US=niche market for racers, no marketing, broken at launch, middling reviews, negative word of mouth (from it being broken).

Yeah, I kind of feel bad for Evolution.

Lobb said February-March for Ori. No clue about Below, but most assume it's a 1H release. And I get that the U.S. is niche for racers, but the difference between it and FH2 is staggering. It's not like FH2 sold that well either. I guess the negative word of mouth really hurt it.

1~>325k
1+360~510k

 

[The Shogun]

Sorry then. I was under the assumption that you were talking about Nintendo only.

In the case of PS4/XBO, I am positive that 2015 will be bigger than 2014 (Halo, Uncharted, current gen COD, Destiny etc).

I don't know about Nintendo though. Zelda is their big holiday title (if it gets released in 2015) and other than that, we don't really know about their release strategy. Past titles don't really push hardware.

They have a pretty good lineup already for 2015. Mario Party 10, Splatoon, Zelda, Xenoblade Chronicles X, Yoshi Yarn, and Kirby. Not sure if thats enough to be up YoY on Mario Kart / Smash but its possible.

 

[onQ123]

So PS4 sold ~1.8m in NA and ~2.3m in Rest of the world in the November + December? Nice split.

The 4.1 million was for the end of Nov + Dec.

 

[Amir0x]

They have a pretty good lineup already for 2015. Mario Party 10, Splatoon, Zelda, Xenoblade Chronicles X, Yoshi Yarn, and Kirby. Not sure if thats enough to be up YoY on Mario Kart / Smash but its possible.

No way. Without another Mario Kart or Smash Bros. title, the system is coasting bad. Those were -the- biggest guns the Wii U was likely to have left. Zelda has never to my understanding been a sales beast like those series, at least not since the N64 days. I think the year will be better in terms of game output, but unless Nintendo aggressively cuts the price at some point this year (and my God how long are they really going to wait?), they're not gonna even match their 2014

I think there's a fair chance it'll be significantly under 2014 if it doesn't get a price cut, if you can believe that.

 

[NateDrake]

bayo 1 did 200k in the us on the 360 after 18 months. it did 150k on the ps3 in that same time. 135k after three months isn't that bad.

Wow. That really puts things into perspective. Congrats, Bayo 2, for actually doing decent when stacked up against the PS360 original in NA.