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Fighting Games Weekly | Mar 30 - Apr 5 | BonCHAMP
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Gaming websites like Kotaku could help spread the word about a CPT event, I'm sure. They've reported on Evo, so they'd report something like this. An organizer or anyone involved with theese events should be hitting up these websites ad nauseam. Getting this kind of financial injection into Fighting Games is a story. Getting ads going via Twitch/youtube sounds like an amazing idea, but yeah, that costs money. Maybe the pool should have been $400,000 instead of $500,000? Put the rest towards marketing the events. Besides, what's the point of throwing all this money into the community if it's not going to grow a damn thing? IIRC, Final Round numbers barely surpassed last year's in terms of viewership. Just like NCR, people hadn't a clue it was even happening until the week of.
I figured this would be the year, for organizers, players and publishers to go all-in and see if they can make supporting the FGC worth a damn. It's too early to say it was all for nothing, but if the current MO keeps up, I really don't see what anyone gains from this monetary injection outside the handful of players that win money from the events. In big picture terms, if the FGC is still were it is today next year, this was a fat-ass waste of money.
I figured this would be the year, for organizers, players and publishers to go all-in and see if they can make supporting the FGC worth a damn. It's too early to say it was all for nothing, but if the current MO keeps up, I really don't see what anyone gains from this monetary injection outside the handful of players that win money from the events. In big picture terms, if the FGC is still were it is today next year, this was a fat-ass waste of money.
Let us know if you find anything out. Wonder if we'll ever know.
Hope you guys get everything sorted out. It sucks to see all that hard work go down the drain.
CommandThrower
Member
I understand the concern regarding the roster size, but as a fan of MK, I hope they do add more.
I could settle for 4-5 more DLC characters. The MK fans at large are clamoring for more additions. Fujin, the Cyborgs, Rain, Baraka...the list goes on.
For those interested here's the grand finals match between JDCR and that player from Peru:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRPH3cifeeY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRPH3cifeeY
SloaneRisette
Member
Fucking NoA calling upon the SRK Illuminati to censor Mother 3 in America
Of course! Actually, there are plans to bring the organizers and JDCR(via skype or something) to a podcast show as early as possible. So far the organizers are in, we still have to get JDCR to accept.
It does suck. Hopefully we can bring someone else(like we did Jwong and ChrisG) to keep the positive stuff going and if we're lucky maybe repel some of this shit.
EDIT: I'm going to post this again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-WMC2d4xk4
.la1n
Member
Interesting. The last Killer Instinct character won't be added until the end of May and possibly not for all users until June if it follows the last few character's release schedules. That is going to be okay but Lucas is an issue? How about the Mortal Kombat X DLC characters?
This and having older versions of some of the main EVO roster games makes this event feel very odd to me.
Where has EVO come out and said that the last KI character will be allowed at EVO?
The guy in the video just tries to focus the whole situation around JDCR's defeat on tournament, and that was the least of his problems there. And in the end tells people to not be afraid to go to South America. JDCR wrote he won't be coming back because he had a terrible experience, and he's 100% right! I wouldn't if I was him!
And so far, no one denied anything, and the TO's even said he wrote all that just 'cause he was salty, and that he disrespected Peru....c'mon man....people lied to him about everything, fuck the tournament
Gutabo, here we know you are not part of those guys. I remember clearly JWong and Chris G had a great time there. I just hope you don't blindly try to defend them just because they are from Peru as well. They are making a bad name for you there and, if it was all true, blow them up to make things clear to everyone around the globe.
I'm not trying to defend what the TO did. I've already said I got worried the minute I turned on the stream and I saw the place they were in. I'm just trying to get to the truth here and that video I linked seems like one of the calmer, cool minded opinions in the shitstorm we're in right now(actually, before the TO's post and that silly legal threat). I think what we need is perspective and that's just what KoR is bringing right now:
René 'Kor' Maistry said:
We really hope JDCR and the spanish players agree to get into a skype call with us(in a podcast show) and sort all of this out.
EDIT: and even if it turns out only 5% of what JDCR said is true, I will still think the TOs screwed up big time.
Parallax Scroll
Banned
I finally had time to listen to the whole thing. This is a nice podcast! A few highlights:
Angelic talked about how you sometimes need to play lame if you want to win at the highest level. Pure rushdown will always carry some risk, since sometimes you're gonna go in at the exact moment when the other guy happened to hit a button that beats out your attack. For this reason he's working on a Morrigan/Vergil/Shuma team. He thinks Mystic Ray is a really good assist for both Morrigan and Vergil. Vergil can do lengthy blockstrings and get really spammy with Helm Breaker as long as Mystic Ray is backing him up.
They also talked about who are the gods of Marvel 3 now. Everyone agreed that the "five gods" from a year or two ago are no longer valid. Everyone put Champ as the #1 player with Justin just behind him, and the consensus was that those are the only two gods now.
I respect it, you are doing the right thing. But about this skype call....
It doesn't look like the TO's would have a cool calm and respectful conversation with JDCR if they have the opportunity. Don't know if it's fair to put him in this situation
Gods have fallen
SloaneRisette
Member
Parallax Scroll
Banned
Also they said ChrisG plays a lot of League now? I had no idea.
Thanks, that's why I said JDCR AND the spanish players, because even tho they have not said a thing about it some people say they felt the exact same way. And of course we're not going to make it a direct conversation, heck, those TOs don't even speak english. We´re trying to get things sorted out, not getting people to fight over skype!
how did i miss this holy shit
I was worried you had taken over the On Blast Show lol
Great then! Hope everything turns out ok for you and the community there.
.la1n
Member
I haven't seen them address it as an issue either like they have with P4U, GGXrd, and now Smash but maybe they are just behind on the announcement?
Killer Instinct's release schedule has been known for months now unlike Smash's recent announcement so seems odd they'd address that before the former if it's an issue. I'll eat my hat if I'm wrong but I bet that KI won't face the same restriction.
It's really sad to see how positive stuff gets shrugged off and the drama only keeps growing and shitting everything on its path
EDIT:
Thanks, we hope the same!
Working on messing with Lucina's customs. The only one I like is Iai Counter but unfortunately 1113 isn't an Evo set.
I might have to rock using the default unless I feel like giving up Dolphin Slash to get the closest set. Still undecided on entering for Evo though. Part of it really depends on the Mewtwo patch with character tweaks.
I might have to rock using the default unless I feel like giving up Dolphin Slash to get the closest set. Still undecided on entering for Evo though. Part of it really depends on the Mewtwo patch with character tweaks.
theprodigy
Member
why bother testing Lucina's customs
just use Marth's :/
edit: why not Dashing Assault and/or Crescent Slash?
Dashing Assault and Iai Counter are just too good to not be mandatory on custom Marf/notMarf. I'm kinda wary on anything else, although the heavy Dancing Blade is absolutely nuts with it's damage out put and how early it can kill (3rd dance neutral and upward can kill at like 30-40ish% and the 4th dances kill even earlier) and has Melee Dancing Blade range. Too bad for its start up though.
Holy Order Sol
Member
Chadha's glorious torso
Already preordered my ticket, I'm so excited! The last concert I went to was a Neutral Milk Hotel concert so I'm hype for a change in pace.
Also, yeah. The Powers That B is RIDICULOUS.
I like switching between Marth and Lucina, even if I know Marth's better if your spacing is on point.
Dashing Assault, doesn't really do much for me. Good recovery and good range I suppose, but Shield Breaker is fun to throw out as a mindgame for people shielding too much. Dashing Assault doesn't help me out much either on hit. I don't like Crescent Slash. Weaker than Dolphin Slash even with its sweet spot, weaker knockback too. Also Dolphin Slash has less landing lag. So using it on battlefield platform has its uses, and it has good recovery.
http://www.twitch.tv/showdowngg Gamerbee Kumite (people essentially challenge him for prizes is my understanding) started at the Foundry in SF. Churning the Butter (NorCal weekly) follows.
SolarKnight
Member
I dunno, pretty sure a custom Marth got decent results with Crescent Slash and the Marth boards are getting fond of it lately iirc
FWIW, I think Kotaku does the most FGC coverage of any gaming site, by a landslide. They do their part to raise awareness, but not to the point where they are a FGC promotion site. At least I feel like that, since they've reported on otherwise mundane happenings before as well (like triumphant victories as opposed to just controversial stuff).
In general I feel like FGC promotion and excitement has fallen off but I don't know if that's just because I had less time to keep up or not. Just feels to me like there's less cross-event advertising, fun trailers, TFC kind of fizzled etc. Also the drama isn't as hot, which is usually good for getting people excited about confrontations at following majors (this was something the larger Marvel community also helped with, I feel. Even people who disliked Marvel would tune in for some of that stuff).
This is weird because there isn't a time to be more excited than now. We've got Smash getting significant post-launch support, perhaps the biggest MK release in history, SFV info that could pop up anytime anywhere, a new GG just came out so anime is.. doing.. its.. thing.. I guess.., a lot of big FGC personalities/figureheads are getting industry jobs, unprecedented amounts of money are being poured into staples of the genre, multiple blooming indie projects etc. Maybe that stuff just needs to hit proper before we feel the effects. Also I don't know how much this matters because it still seems like stream numbers are climbing steadily.
I'll have to see what people are doing with it then. Especially with what situations they're using it with.
Outside of game releases there's nothing for the average mid level player to be excited about here. Been noticing this more and more lately.
What would that be, exactly? Better pay structures or ideas for more activities at events
i.e. basically UFGT
I think the game releases themselves are the best motivator possible, but the next closest thing is devs going out of the way to provide in-game rewards to tournament participants DotA-style and that is still a super logistical nightmare (if the CPT wasn't already). That's also muddy waters, because people will feel entitled to that content regardless.
theprodigy
Member
Crescent Slash allows you to actually follow up on some throws, for one
Yeah, a friend of mine told me about some of the benefits. I'm assuming Marth gets a damage bonus on tipper there too, so that sounds nice. Guess I will try going for that. I really want to keep Shield Breaker though, so I'll have to be careful if I'm stick with Shield Breaker.
ThatCrazyGuy
Member
Do these TOs even send press releases to the gaming outlets?
Is there like a calender of events on the twitch home page, like if you go to a sports league page.
I depend on this thread to find out about upcoming events as well.
I mean, i dont even see capcom cup stuff on the capcom front page.
Idk, the promotion does seem lackluster. Maybe this wont grow things and the money is just going to help the few who already play.
Is there like a calender of events on the twitch home page, like if you go to a sports league page.
I depend on this thread to find out about upcoming events as well.
I mean, i dont even see capcom cup stuff on the capcom front page.
Idk, the promotion does seem lackluster. Maybe this wont grow things and the money is just going to help the few who already play.
Professor Beef
Banned
I'm actually there now, forgot my converter so I can't play.
I don't have a good answer for you really. People getting jobs? I hope you're high up on the food chain? More money? I hope you can win it. More exclusive events? I hope you're the best or like spectating more than playing. The thing I don't like about esports and stuff is those players who get out of pools but don't quite get top 8/16 are kind of getting phased out unless they find a non-playing way to engage. Stuff for top players is getting better, stuff for spectators getting better, but Idk what people in the middle are gonna be excited for :|
I know I'm on a tangent but those are the dudes who are going to go to a tournament and bring people, help out, they create a lot of the tutorial content, etc. and I kinda notice lately that group of players is getting less and less exposure mainline exposure or incentive.
RockTurtle
Member
new games came out. the main draw is dependent on capcom titles mainly, and its the same faces fighting each other at some point.
there's less drama. i know lots of people hate it and don't want it, but it brought in numbers. fchamp being a heel. the EMP drama llama train, players money matching each other. less trash talk. people hated it, but LTG vs viscant was the last big beef i recall that made things interesting to watch.
new games coming out. MOBAS taking away a lot of people's free time if they have to cross the same pool of players that play both mobas and fighting games.
sf4 is half a decade old. marvel patch is never coming so people dropped it by droves even though it was a viewer goldmine. anime games seem to only last 6 months to a year in terms of interest before a new one pops up and draws away interest, cannibalizing the genre. Sm4sh was a flop in terms of attracting views due to diddy kong being the new metaknight and mofos not dying at 150% damage.
atomic moth
Member
Not sure how much experience you have with old cabs and tubes but...
You probably aren't going to fix that black spot. If it's a severe case of burn in on the tube itself, you have to live with it. If it's a problem with the neck you probably aren't going to fix it.
It doesn't sound like a single, unmoving spot that you describe is the game board or wiring.
So if it's worth it to you , go for it. But negotiate it down in price.
DryEyeRelief
Member
USFIV now has a higher average amount of viewers than Marvel ever had with all its idiocy and drama.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
Half of this post is either hugely exaggerated or outright false.
SloaneRisette
Member
Technology comes with a cost
Parallax Scroll
Banned
stealing this