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One Punch Man TV |OT| Just an average guy who serves as an average hero.

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I'm usually not fond of this style, but OPM does (I dunno how) a great job with it.
I don't understand how anime (tv) nowadays still hasn't improved much on the animation part (make it more fluid, adding more animation to background stuff and characters) and try making it looking like this shot but with more details.

Hopefully this show inspires studios to a) give the animators more money b) make better animations (at least in action scenes)

First, a brief history lesson. In the earliest days of Japanese animation as a commercial industry, the most prominent studio was Toei Douga. Toei's feature films imitated the style of full, fluid animation found in Disney's animated features, and the studio self-consciously aspired to be the "Disney of the East". The industry was forever changed in 1963 when Osamu Tezuka was approached by a TV station about adapting his manga Astro Boy into a TV anime. Tezuka promised the station that he could produce the anime cheaply and quickly. In order to do so, he could not use the principles of full animation, and so developed the technique of limited animation to get the job done on time and on budget. Limited animation involves not changing the drawing every frame (a.k.a., animation "on ones"), but keeping the drawing constant for several frames (most commonly "on threes"), thus sacrificing some fluidity and motion. This established the expected standard that Japanese animation would henceforth follow down to the present day. Directors and animators developed techniques to work with and take advantage of these constraints to make anime visually interesting (e.g., the stylized framing of Osamu Dezaki's direction, or the strong key-poses of Hiroyuki Imashi's animation). So Japanese animation has found much of its distinctive strengths in the limited format, and moving it to full animation would, besides being impractical, weaken or eliminate many of these strengths.

The most detailed, realistic animation you can get would be in the works of Hiroyuki Okiura (Cowboy Bebop movie opening, Jin-Roh, Letter to Momo). Okiura keeps strict standards for the character animation in his works, and obsessively examines it all to make sure it is as precise as possible. The downside to that is that it requires a long production time - Letter to Momo took seven years to make - which makes it unattractive to production companies. In fact, the recently released movie Miss Hokusai was originally supposed to be directed by Okiura, but his demands for extended length and extended production time were considered too great by Production I.G. and he was taken off the project and replaced with Keiichi Hara.

TV anime is under much greater time constraints than movies, so it requires even more time-saving measures. That's why most TV productions have inconsistent animation - key scenes and episodes are given more time and given to top animators to get the most effort put into them, while other scenes and episodes that aren't as important are sacrificed to keep the overall production moving. More detailed character designs require more time, effort, and skill to animate, which is why anime designs usually lean to the more simplified and stylized side. Plus relatively loose designs allow for a lot of flexibility in individual animators adapting them to their own styles, which you can see a lot of in One Punch Man and the director's previous work, Space Dandy.

So hopefully this explanation helps you to understand why animation in Japanese productions is the way it is. To do what you ask would require much more time than schedules allow, and may not always end up with a better result anyway.
 

NZerker12

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Just finished watching episode 9, damn that episode for me had to be the best one so far. I now see why everyone likes Mumen Rider, guys a true hero just like Saitama.I can't wait for the last 3 episodes I've heard great things.

Did anyone else want to punch the face of that idiot in crowd who was disrespecting Saitama and the other heroes?
 
Just finished watching episode 9, damn that episode for me had to be the best one so far. I now see why everyone likes Mumen Rider, guys a true hero just like Saitama.I can't wait for the last 3 episodes I've heard great things.

Did anyone else want to punch the face of that idiot in crowd who was disrespecting Saitama and the other heroes?

Yea, that really put a damper on all the emotions that took place beforehand. I know Saitama doesn't want to argue as long as he's actually being a hero, but that entire situation feels a little too forced to keep Saitama continue his ranking grind for longer story telling.

Also Sonic being labeled as a pervert and flashing by Saitama was absolutely hilarious.
 

foxuzamaki

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I love shit like this. Don't know if there's a name for the style of animation, but the sacrifice of detail for really fucking smooth animation is awesome. Some people don't like that but I love it. Adds a lot of style points for me.

You know, we're the same in a lot of ways haha
 

Tuck

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I love shit like this. Don't know if there's a name for the style of animation, but the sacrifice of detail for really fucking smooth animation is awesome. Some people don't like that but I love it. Adds a lot of style points for me.

I like it, but it is kind of jarring.
 

foxuzamaki

Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
When it does look like this, it is the real shit. Perfect for fight scenes.
Seen many strange people, watching scenes like this frame by frame, and complain about the "lazy animation"

Some people do not even unterstand the meaning of animation. It is all about movement / motion.

There are some Naruto Episodes with this style. Like Naruto VS Sasuke (Kids) or Naruto Fox Mode VS Pain.

That flow, that power. Sick stuff. Getting goosebumps seeing scenes like this :)

I feel like only a few really appreciate things like that.
I absolutely adore this type of animation, often times on MAl etc. you will watch a decently animated episode, even if it isn't some huge fight scene but just normal but doesn't look badly drawn or whatever, and then you read on MAL that the animation was bad or not great or whatever and you cant help but wonder what are they talking about, and it kinda hits you that they don't really know about animation.
 

Kinyou

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I'm still trying to work it out. Because it can't be what I think it is. It cant.
Considering the size of the syringe and that they're in a hospital I could imagine he wanted to give them an enema? Probably a way to get his rocks off under the guise of helping them.

I don't think there was anything bad in the syringe itself.
 
Just finished watching episode 9, damn that episode for me had to be the best one so far. I now see why everyone likes Mumen Rider, guys a true hero just like Saitama.I can't wait for the last 3 episodes I've heard great things.

Did anyone else want to punch the face of that idiot in crowd who was disrespecting Saitama and the other heroes?
I think everyone did. Neet Shirt Guy has a very punchable face. His VA did a good job channeling that obnoxiousness.

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jett

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That's the point and where Saitama's problems are stemming from it. It is his character and his character development.

He is so overly powerful that anything is no match. He is searching for that challenge. Or better to say, he is searching for a true way to prove he is a hero. The most common definition isn't someone who is insanely powerful, but someone who has to sacrifice and give it all to save others. He has not been able to find that. Hence why he had a lot of admiration for mumen rider. He went even though he stood no chance at all. Basically, that is the thing he is searching for.

This plays into his character and why he doesn't desire or need credit. He feels like he doesn't deserve it. Everyone else went against odds they couldn't beat. Him on the other is the opposite, he is the odd the other guy can't beat. He's basically a God searching for Morality. Hence why he is so apathetic towards everything. He is caught at an interesting point of being extremely selfish and extremely giving.

And how the people respond would actually be a given. Imagine if Rocky was a story about a guy who one shotted Apollo, Mr T, Dragon, and more. Half of you would be in disbelief and the other half would be doubting its real. But it would be boring as all hell. There is nothing heroic or entertaining about it. How they are responding and how he played it off was the best course of action. He sees the others as the true heroes. While himself, his only desire is the find that equal match and worth sacrifice.

That's a good analysis. Overall I enjoy how OPM subverts classic shonen tropes, but at some point it becomes a bit frustrating. And hell, maybe the heckler is half-right, and I do want to see a drawn out fight, or somebody that at least makes Saitama break a singular drop of sweat. :p
 

Akuun

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That's true. Bang noticing definitely satisfied me a little bit.

Edit: I think some of the frustration is from Genos never being like "yo you guys are wrong about this guy by the way" just because that would solve it so quickly.

Genos offered to do that right when Saitama was rated in C class after the exams. Saitama stopped him.

I think he holds his tongue now because he doesn't think Saitama wants him to talk about it.
I think everyone did. Neet Shirt Guy has a very punchable face. His VA did a good job channeling that obnoxiousness.

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I love the NEET shirt guy. There's always a guy like this in every Internet discussion.
 

Akuun

Looking for meaning in GAF
Who is this guy meant to be a parody of. Obviously not an actual person, but a type of personality. But he was extremely punchable.
"That guy" who steps into every discussion to condescendingly armchair the shit out of everything, and is full of convenient excuses as to why he never does anything but armchair everything.
 

Maedhros

Member
I really should pick up the print volumes. I've been working off of memories when only the scanlations were available, where evidently moments like that were completely skipped.

All of those were included on the web-comics (from Murata). You just don't really remember.
 

ElFly

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That's a good analysis. Overall I enjoy how OPM subverts classic shonen tropes, but at some point it becomes a bit frustrating. And hell, maybe the heckler is half-right, and I do want to see a drawn out fight, or somebody that at least makes Saitama break a singular drop of sweat. :p

Fights get drawn out, but mostly when it is other heroes fighting; Saitama always ends people in one punch, although he may take a while to throw said punch.
 

Skrams

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I hope that picture sees some more use.

I'm also surprised some people are having that bad of second hand frustration at Saitama not getting his due credit. To me it sounds like you're annoyed not at the show, but you care enough about the characters predicaments to be annoyed. So the show is accomplishing its goal pretty much.

A funny thing about the Sea King is how much he loves to mock flashy attacks used by most heroes in the show.

Unless I'm nuts, the extra Genos battle stuff with Sea King like Lightning Eye and Machinegun Blow weren't in the manga. I really enjoyed that they added it because it was a joy to see, but also Sea King continuing his comments on combo attacks after Puri Puri Prisoner was pretty good.
 

darthbob

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One thing missing from the episode was Sea King's lesson to Genos, about how you need to follow up each punch with the intent to kill.
 
One thing missing from the episode was Sea King's lesson to Genos, about how you need to follow up each punch with the intent to kill.

I feel like the "you like combo attacks" line did fine. Clear callback to when he gave that speech last episode to Puri Puri Prisoner.
 

zeemumu

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I don't think Genos exactly jobbed to Deep Sea King since he deliberately took the hit. It wasn't a head on blowout like the incident with Kabuto or the Mosquito woman.
 
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