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Taliban attack CIA base in Afghanistan

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Fuck. How awful for all concerned.

The US use of "agent" is slightly different to the UK and it always confuses me.

US Agent = Intelligence operative.
UK Agent = A source.

I saw something about the attempted airline bombing on the BBC earlier and they were harping on about the source being trained in Yemen and having met the head of AQ-AP. And how this was difficult for Americans because it didn't originate in Afghanistan or Pakistan. WTF? I still remember the attempted storming of the US Embassy in Sanaa.

Anyway, guess my point is it's a dangerous world.
 
Meus Renaissance

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It's awful when hundreds of civilians die in terrorist bombings around the world, including in Afghanistan and Iraq and its rarely mentioned let alone discussed. And yet every time a solider or an agent dies - the commiserations pour in and threads go into multiple pages. Why people? Why
 
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Meus Renaissance said:
It's awful when hundreds of civilians die in terrorist bombings around the world, including in Afghanistan and Iraq and its rarely mentioned let alone discussed. And yet every time a solider or an agent dies - the commiserations pour in and threads go into multiple pages. Why people? Why
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Who's stopping you from making a thread about it?
 
Meus Renaissance

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xelios said:
Who's stopping you from making a thread about it?
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I do most of my political/social commentary outside GAF. Funny you mention that beceause I recently did make such a thread entitled " BREAKING NEWS: Terrorist attack in city centre. 127 dead" - intentionally worded to see the reactions of people when the city was Baghdad as opposed to London or New York. And as guessed right, many even confessed as to their interest or concern dropping as soon as they learnt of the location.
 
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BattleMonkey

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Meus Renaissance said:
I do most of my political/social commentary outside GAF. Funny you mention that beceause I recently did make such a thread entitled " BREAKING NEWS: Terrorist attack in city centre. 127 dead" - intentionally worded to see the reactions of people when the city was Baghdad as opposed to London or New York. And as guessed right, many even confessed as to their interest or concern dropping as soon as they learnt of the location.
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Wheres my tiny violin
 
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Al-ibn Kermit

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Meus Renaissance said:
I do most of my political/social commentary outside GAF. Funny you mention that beceause I recently did make such a thread entitled " BREAKING NEWS: Terrorist attack in city centre. 127 dead" - intentionally worded to see the reactions of people when the city was Baghdad as opposed to London or New York. And as guessed right, many even confessed as to their interest or concern dropping as soon as they learnt of the location.
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In the middle-east, most people probably won't care at all about a few dead CIA agents (due to the CIA's history) so it kinda balances out.
 
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xbhaskarx

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Meus Renaissance said:
Funny you mention that beceause I recently did make such a thread entitled " BREAKING NEWS: Terrorist attack in city centre. 127 dead" - intentionally worded to see the reactions of people when the city was Baghdad as opposed to London or New York. And as guessed right, many even confessed as to their interest or concern dropping as soon as they learnt of the location.
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BREAKING NEWS: more people on GAF live in London or New York, or know people who live in London or New York, than Baghdad.
I'm sure the residents of Baghdad care more about 127 people dying in Baghdad than they would about 127 people dying in London or New York.
not breaking news: you are an idiot
 
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Lost Fragment

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Meus Renaissance said:
I do most of my political/social commentary outside GAF. Funny you mention that beceause I recently did make such a thread entitled " BREAKING NEWS: Terrorist attack in city centre. 127 dead" - intentionally worded to see the reactions of people when the city was Baghdad as opposed to London or New York. And as guessed right, many even confessed as to their interest or concern dropping as soon as they learnt of the location.
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Wow, you're so much better than those other people who were just conforming to basic human psychology.
 
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ClovingWestbrook

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Meus Renaissance said:
It's awful when hundreds of civilians die in terrorist bombings around the world, including in Afghanistan and Iraq and its rarely mentioned let alone discussed. And yet every time a solider or an agent dies - the commiserations pour in and threads go into multiple pages. Why people? Why
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Probably because this is for the most part a US/western board so when soldiers from the military of our countries perish there is more attention than the victims in say Iraq/Afghanistan. However, as somebody else stated, you are free to create a thread lamenting the death of civilians in these countries.
 
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ClovingWestbrook

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BattleMonkey said:
Wheres my tiny violin
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eggandI

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Taliban militants beheaded six men they suspected of being spies for the government in the southern province of Uruzgan, police said
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Ugh. And we're sending 30k more troops over there in hopes of what exactly? these dudes aren't going to stop chopping people's(or each others) heads off.
 
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Mr. Spinnington

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Meus Renaissance said:
I do most of my political/social commentary outside GAF. Funny you mention that beceause I recently did make such a thread entitled " BREAKING NEWS: Terrorist attack in city centre. 127 dead" - intentionally worded to see the reactions of people when the city was Baghdad as opposed to London or New York. And as guessed right, many even confessed as to their interest or concern dropping as soon as they learnt of the location.
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does that mean this is an old topic?

that's what you're saying right
 
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The Shadow

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Meus Renaissance said:
It's awful when hundreds of civilians die in terrorist bombings around the world, including in Afghanistan and Iraq and its rarely mentioned let alone discussed. And yet every time a solider or an agent dies - the commiserations pour in and threads go into multiple pages. Why people? Why
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Probably because the majority of people who post here are from the states dummy.
 
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Particle Physicist

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Meus Renaissance said:
It's awful when hundreds of civilians die in terrorist bombings around the world, including in Afghanistan and Iraq and its rarely mentioned let alone discussed. And yet every time a solider or an agent dies - the commiserations pour in and threads go into multiple pages. Why people? Why
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This thread has barely moved since it was posted two days ago. It has yet to reach the second page.

Oh, and civilians also died.

and most of the posts in this thread are now replies to your post! :lol
 
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dr3upmushroom

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Meus Renaissance said:
I do most of my political/social commentary outside GAF. Funny you mention that beceause I recently did make such a thread entitled " BREAKING NEWS: Terrorist attack in city centre. 127 dead" - intentionally worded to see the reactions of people when the city was Baghdad as opposed to London or New York. And as guessed right, many even confessed as to their interest or concern dropping as soon as they learnt of the location.
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You make a great point, a human life is a human life... Fuck the hate going towards you. America are the terroists over there.
Like what, ever?
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Like making sure that the opium trade grows.
 
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Chrono

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Meus Renaissance said:
I do most of my political/social commentary outside GAF. Funny you mention that beceause I recently did make such a thread entitled " BREAKING NEWS: Terrorist attack in city centre. 127 dead" - intentionally worded to see the reactions of people when the city was Baghdad as opposed to London or New York. And as guessed right, many even confessed as to their interest or concern dropping as soon as they learnt of the location.
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Muslims don't care about civilians dead in Iraq from a terrorist attack, and you're asking why others don't instead?
 
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Prine

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Chrono said:
Muslims don't care about civilians dead in Iraq from a terrorist attack, and you're asking why others don't instead?
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More drivel from you. What about the muslim relatives of those dead, which extends to friends, to nationals and so on. There's prayers said in mosques for those passed by these crimes. Eid, Ramadan as well as the 5 daily prayers. Besides, when do you have to follow a religion feel compassion for others. Killing is wrong, another bomb blast went off today in Pakistan, just because its not posted here doesn't mean there's not a deep feeling of remorse held those injured/dead.
 
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Particle Physicist

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dr3upmushroom said:
You make a great point, a human life is a human life... Fuck the hate going towards you. America are the terroists over there.
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he made a stupid point.

"And yet every time a solider or an agent dies - the commiserations pour in and threads go into multiple pages."

This thread is still one page.

I think people in general are tired of the deaths.. it doesn't even register for them.. yes, even these CIA deaths. Most of the discussion in this thread has now been about Meus Renaissance and his post... and it has yet to reach the second page.
 
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Chrono said:
Muslims don't care about civilians dead in Iraq from a terrorist attack, and you're asking why others don't instead?
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There's been 100.000 civilian violent deaths in Iraq the last 10 years, and if you include the civilian deaths from desert storm, the number will likely double again. I think it's safe to say that they will care a lot about the death toll, for the next 50 years at least.
 
Meus Renaissance

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quadriplegicjon said:
he made a stupid point.

"And yet every time a solider or an agent dies - the commiserations pour in and threads go into multiple pages."

This thread is still one page.

I think people in general are tired of the deaths.. it doesn't even register for them.. yes, even these CIA deaths. Most of the discussion in this thread has now been about Meus Renaissance and his post... and it has yet to reach the second page.
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Yeah because it's not like I was making a general comment based on my experiences in these type of discussions outside GAF. You be the one subscribing to a "oh wait, this thread aint even 2 pages here on GAF, so how could his point have any validity then?" logic and you refer to me as stupid?

Wasteman
 
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Meus Renaissance said:
I do most of my political/social commentary outside GAF. Funny you mention that beceause I recently did make such a thread entitled " BREAKING NEWS: Terrorist attack in city centre. 127 dead" - intentionally worded to see the reactions of people when the city was Baghdad as opposed to London or New York. And as guessed right, many even confessed as to their interest or concern dropping as soon as they learnt of the location.
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It's because 99% of GAF doesn't gives a shit about civilians in the Middle East.
 
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Chrono

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jorma said:
There's been 100.000 civilian violent deaths in Iraq the last 10 years, and if you include the civilian deaths from desert storm, the number will likely double again. I think it's safe to say that they will care a lot about the death toll, for the next 50 years at least.
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Sure, they care when Americans/Jews are the ones doing the killing.

As for desert storm, do the hundreds of thousands that were liberated count? I don't think most would care for more than 5 minutes. Infidels coming in and killing, oh sure, 50 years. Civilian deaths matter in that war like German civilian deaths mattered in WWII. If I were an Iraqi I would view the 2003 war the same as desert storm too.

Edit: And I really doubt that number would double after adding desert storm. Maybe you mean the sanctions.

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It's because 99% of GAF doesn't gives a shit about civilians in the Middle East.
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I'd say that's a massive improment over celebrating the deaths of civlians, like they do in the middle east.

However 99% isn't accurate, many here are muslims and progressives and quite a few here when talking about civlians deaths it's either the tragedy of muslim ones or justifications for the western ones.
 
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Chrono said:
Sure, they care when Americans/Jews are the ones doing the killing.

As for desert storm, do the hundreds of thousands that were liberated count? I don't think most would care for more than 5 minutes. Infidels coming in and killing, oh sure, 50 years. Civilian deaths matter in that war like German civilian deaths mattered in WWII. If I were an Iraqi I would view the 2003 war the same as desert storm too.

Edit: And I really doubt that number would double after adding desert storm. Maybe you mean the sanctions.



I'd say that's a massive improment over celebrating the deaths of civlians, like they do in the middle east.

However 99% isn't accurate, many here are muslims and progressives and quite a few here when talking about civlians deaths it's either the tragedy of muslim ones or justifications for the western ones.
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What a warped perspective you have. I imagine it would only take a minimal amount of pushing to have you cheering for wholesale extermination.
 
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wowsers chrono - though i'm not surprised, you pretty much make the same points in every middle eastern or religious thread
 
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Meus Renaissance said:
Yeah because it's not like I was making a general comment based on my experiences in these type of discussions outside GAF. You be the one subscribing to a "oh wait, this thread aint even 2 pages here on GAF, so how could his point have any validity then?" logic and you refer to me as stupid?

Wasteman
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What? you specifically mentioned threads on here .. twice!

in fact, you were pissed off how more people seem to care about this shit on here, yet.. there has barely been any discussion.

First mention of threads that piss you off: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=19101737&postcount=8


Meus Renaissance said:
It's awful when hundreds of civilians die in terrorist bombings around the world, including in Afghanistan and Iraq and its rarely mentioned let alone discussed. And yet every time a solider or an agent dies - the commiserations pour in and threads go into multiple pages. Why people? Why
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second mention of threads that piss you off: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=19101796&postcount=13

Meus Renaissance said:
I do most of my political/social commentary outside GAF. Funny you mention that beceause I recently did make such a thread entitled " BREAKING NEWS: Terrorist attack in city centre. 127 dead" - intentionally worded to see the reactions of people when the city was Baghdad as opposed to London or New York. And as guessed right, many even confessed as to their interest or concern dropping as soon as they learnt of the location.
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not sure how you can back-peddle on this.
 
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Yeah I expected something like that, I remember reading an article saying the guy was invited to the CIA meeting place/compound/wherever, and that was how he got in. But the article itself didn't elaborate other than to say he may have been invited.

So it's no surprise he managed to get it, but it's retarded they couldn't check if he had an explosive belt on himself.

I'm thinking they must have been in an area that was really not secure, not on a base?
 
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Mecha_Infantry

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razorman said:
A video has been released showing the bomber giving his final statement:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/8449789.stm

More new details on the attack:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/Afghanistan/article6982465.ece

This increasingly looks like an incredible counter-intelligence operation conducted by Taliban/AQ and a massive failure for the CIA.
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This could be a terrible year for extremist terrorism. Ever so slightly worried, but sure our intelligence will catch whoever in the end...

THings like this make me understand why people are joining the army more recently
 
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HomShaBom

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Mecha_Infantry said:
This could be a terrible year for extremist terrorism. Ever so slightly worried, but sure our intelligence will catch whoever in the end...
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Like they caught Bin Laden, who did far worse?
 
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