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Eurogamer: NX = portable w/ carts, detachable controllers, Tegra, TV Out, no BC, Sept
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Zombie James
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I've said it before somewhere in this 50+ page thread, but it really sounds like (based on the article) this is a handheld first. Unless the dock does something to enhance games for the TV, it really just sounds like a handheld with TV-out to me.
Bamboo 竹
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It's logic that it won't have BC since it's using cartbridges. They can't reproduce Wii U games and if it would reproduce 3DS games they would need to upscale those to an HD TV which is a pretty bad idea.
opticalmace
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Supposed unveiling, yeah.
Jonneh3003
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RealityCheque
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So the power levels suggested here basically guarantee limited third party support.
Ballsy moves by Nintendo, if nothing else it will be different from everything other console out there. But a portable just isn't going to sell to any mass market in 2017.
Can't wait for Nintendo to become the biggest third party publisher of them all by 2020.
Ballsy moves by Nintendo, if nothing else it will be different from everything other console out there. But a portable just isn't going to sell to any mass market in 2017.
Can't wait for Nintendo to become the biggest third party publisher of them all by 2020.
A lot of people talking about the Drive PX2 without understanding the hardware on it.
A Drive PX2 has four chips on it:
2x Tegra "Parker" chips - These contain 2 Denver CPU cores + 4 ARM Cortex-A57 cores + a Pascal-based GPU each. This is the successor to the Tegra X1.
2x GP104 GPUs on the other side. Same GPU as is inside the new GTX 1060. These make up the vast majority of the quoted 8 TFLOPS figure for a Drive PX2. These can't be used in a portable systems as they are ~120W TDP each.
A Drive PX2 has four chips on it:
2x Tegra "Parker" chips - These contain 2 Denver CPU cores + 4 ARM Cortex-A57 cores + a Pascal-based GPU each. This is the successor to the Tegra X1.
2x GP104 GPUs on the other side. Same GPU as is inside the new GTX 1060. These make up the vast majority of the quoted 8 TFLOPS figure for a Drive PX2. These can't be used in a portable systems as they are ~120W TDP each.
Just to clarify, even if there is no direct BC, I imagine games from every other Nintendo platform save the Game & Watch and Virtual Boy and Pokémon Mini will be playable. So you'll still have VC from the
Also, I think given rumors we've had that several high profile Wii U games will be ported.
(Tech peeps, is there any reason they couldn't essentially fold their current 3DS and Wii U VC into NX?)
*I realized after SinCityAssassin's post below that no BC means no HH BC either. But I presume the DS VC on Wii U can be carried forward to NX.
SinCityAssassin
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Fucking shit man, this just raises more questions. The reveal better expose itself so hard it's banned in every bus station.
Silent_Ocarina
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I don't think Iwata's quotes were as definitive as people believed.
TheGreyHulk
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$40.00? try $15.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820313310
the difference between 2016's manufacturing capabilities of memory chips vs 1990 is astronomical. flash storage is pretty damn cheap now.
ZombiePlatypus
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I really hope it's beginning of September. After all this wait, sticking out till the end of the month would be excruciating.
Mihos
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Why is everyone so obsessed about how much power this thing has? This is Nintendo were talking about here. They could still be making amazing games for the wii if they had to. They know what they're doing. This race to push more polygons is really taking its tole on AAA studios. These stupidly hi-res games are ludicrously expensive to make. You dont need 8K triple quad buffered 124X MSAA graphixx to make a good game. Yes games should look nice, but to a point. Its part handheld, 720P is more than enough. Nintendo has the right idea, gameplay first.
Making a great painting on a napkin doesn't make napkins a great place to make paintings.
Starting your generation on an already limited platform is not a very good way to start. Everything Nintendo does is possible on the other platforms, but that is not true the other way around.
Indigo Rush
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I'm kind of bewildered with the ignorance towards using flash cartridges. I'm not even certain how much more expensive they really are nowadays, is it actually that significant in the longrun? Besides which, between the faster load times and absence of a disc drive (making the system cheaper), isn't this particular decision a no-brainer?
Of course it has a HardDrive. You will be able to download games on it, so there will have to be one.
Lupin the Third
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For the reveal, not the release.
It's confusing in the title, but this is when the reveal is reportedly slated for. The system is March '17.
tenderbrew
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The amount of people who think that the PS4 is winning because it's the most powerful hardware and that if someone just beat their specs - they would be winning - is stunning.
Did we all ignore nearly every console generation of the past 30 years? PS2 generation especially where it was the best and the least powerful.
Did we all ignore nearly every console generation of the past 30 years? PS2 generation especially where it was the best and the least powerful.
Tom Nook Sawyer
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The Wii U doesn't need a dock to charge the GamePad either, yet there it is.
It's for easy of use. Having a permanent dock is a lot easier than fumbling with loose cables for both HDMI and power
SinCityAssassin
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We're gonna have to assume before Tokyo Game Show, which the 15th. So at the earliest, a week before that.
I really hope Nintendo's learned their lesson from the confusing debacle that was the Wii U's reveal. Seeing as it's being revealed so late I'm willing to bet they have, but this is Nintendo we're talking about here.
DrROBschiz
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It was obsolete when it released
After Links awakening, and Oracle of ages/ season remakes. Then we good.
Tom Nook Sawyer
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Why before? Nintendo never attends TGS.
Bruh, getting a 3DS is the best thing you could do right now. ESPECIALLY if you've never had a DS holy cow so many great games.
BocoDragon
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It's definitely specced like a mobile device.
But let's be honest... Even if this thing weren't optionally portable, a new Nintendo console in 2016 was always destined to run on some low-lowered mobile spec. It's Nintendo.. You know they'd switch to some Ouya-like low power as soon as it was good enough to run cartoony games in 1080p.
SinCityAssassin
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Considering no BC, that technically means buying any 3DS or Wii U console is now automatically worth it.
DeepEnigma
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I'm more curious about where the battery would go. When you remove the controller it would need a battery to work, but there are apparently two separate parts, so would they both need a battery, or would they connect like a Wii remote and nunchuck? Would the main unit have a battery itself, or would it be powered by the battery in the controller section? 1 battery, 2 batteries, 3 batteries?
Jonneh3003
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Yep it could just be this
But I find it more exciting to believe it blends in with this
Chittagong
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Haha I can't believe the disappointment at underpowered hardware, people expecting Nintendo to do powerful hardware and then inevitably being disappointed every time is some Sonic cycle shit
NinjaCoachZ
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All signs point to Nintendo pretty much moving onto NX entirely, since 3DS support has gradually slowed down and Wii U was dropped like a rock, but there's enough of a back catalogue + lack of BC which means a 3DS is still worth it IMO.
Graphics Horse
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Third parties show off games for Nintendo systems. But I'm sure they won't decide the date purely on that.
What is the dock is a separate accessory you have to buy for $50-99? What if the next home console they don't want to release until ps4 is on its last legs so they can compete in the next gen versus Sony, so this is just a stop gap until 2018/2019?
You can't just jump to the conclusion nintendo will never make another dedicated home console based on this rumor from eurogamer that to me, and many others just describes a handheld console with an option to connect it to your tv. It's been done before in the handheld space and didn't cannibalize the home console to any significant degree. See the psp and the ps2.
The more I think about the detachable controllers, the less sense they make, and the Eurogamer article isn't helping.
The illustration shows two small controllers popped off from the side of the central screen, so saying "controllers" (plural) clearly wasn't a typo.
Yet further down in the article, it says "A base unit, or dock station, is used to connect the brain of the NX - within the controller - to display on your TV."
So now it's "controller," singular? And the processor is in that controller, not the screen portion? Huh? It's certainly not split between two smaller controllers.
There has got to be some miscommunication, misinformation, or typo in here somewhere. Surely the "brain" of the NX is in the screen portion, and the controller(s) connect to that. Then that screen docks with a device which works with your TV, and those controller(s) then may or may not work with the NX while it's docked.
The illustration shows two small controllers popped off from the side of the central screen, so saying "controllers" (plural) clearly wasn't a typo.
Yet further down in the article, it says "A base unit, or dock station, is used to connect the brain of the NX - within the controller - to display on your TV."
So now it's "controller," singular? And the processor is in that controller, not the screen portion? Huh? It's certainly not split between two smaller controllers.
There has got to be some miscommunication, misinformation, or typo in here somewhere. Surely the "brain" of the NX is in the screen portion, and the controller(s) connect to that. Then that screen docks with a device which works with your TV, and those controller(s) then may or may not work with the NX while it's docked.
CrazyHorse
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I hope these are misdirected fake leaks.
SinCityAssassin
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They gotta outpace the hype. (Also revealing launch titles for the NX before TGS would technically make it allowed for other developers to finally show what they've been working on for NX at TGS.)
lmao
I'm sure when Nintendo shows this, it'll be with some must have software.
I mean, get one if you want, but don't expect many new games for it past this winter.
EatinOlives
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Yeah I know, but with Nintendo recommending 32gb it's clear what kind of size they want devs to shoot for, and that's considerably a much smaller size than the industry is accustomed to at this day and age. Nintendo's usually pretty good at making games with relatively low size footprint, but the industry in general doesn't follow that.
Always-honest
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Oh i would love something similar to Minish Cap!Those are amazing as is. Minish Cap, too.They can make new games instead!
DonMigs85
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I have a feeling they may port at least some of the Wii U's biggest hits at some point though.
You have no idea what their software will look like on NX except for maybe Just Dance, the new Sonic and, supposedly, DQXI if that slip up is to be believed. Even then, you only get a general idea. You don't even know what Zelda will look like on NX either.
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