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[BD1]

The mockup thread got me thinking - Maybe those digital button patents that looked batshit nuts, are actually going to be apart of this thing.

Think about it - many of us assumed that the two detachable controllers meant it was GamePad-like, with navigation on the left and buttons on the right. The assumption followed naturally, that when the screen was docked, each side would connect together or act like the Wiimote/Nunchuck.

Eurogramer, however, says that the two detachable controllers will act separately from each other to encourage local, on-the-go multiplayer. In a scenario like that, the easy assumption is that the each side would look similar to a classic NES or SNES pad. Navigation and buttons on each side, that much like the Wiimote, can function rather held horizontally and vertically.

Why can't it be both? And more.

Perhaps Nintendo is utilizing digital buttons. The left and right side could each have a Analog Stick and smaller Analog nub, and a screen capable of displaying any number of button layouts.

Playing Zelda on the go? Well, the NX controller can display your standard button layout for an adventure game. Local multiplayer on the go? Each controller has its own navigation and presents a three button layout. Mario Kart? Steer with gyro, and a simple FIRE button for weapons.

If NX is meant to be a play anything, anywhere, anytime device... customized control would make a lot of sense.

(If I had any skill whatsoever, I would try and mock this up)

 

[Papacheeks]

Nintendo said since forever that the NX is not a hybrid device. So better expect the oficial reveal.

Unless this is mainly just the hand held that can be hooked up to a tv. Unless they have another base sku that's more of a dedicated home console.

All fingers kind of point to this device being all in one with a dock base for TV playback in the living room.

 

[Chris Ticehurst]

This guy is mega hyped for the NX

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3Lgor6A3AI

You might be on to something

 

[Anth0ny]

I bought a GBA, bought a GBC game for it. I bought a Wii, bought a gamecube game. Bought a WiiU, used Wii mode. Bought a DS. Bought another GBA game. Bought a 3DS. Purchased another DS game.

Isn't anecdotal evidence fun.

it's a well known fact that a very small number of consumers actually use BC when they get their new console. shockingly, they want to play NEW games with their new console, not old ones!

the players like ourselves still exploring and and updating our last gen collections to play on a new gen console is a very small audience. it is not worth the cost to any hardware manufacturer to add backwards compatibility in at this point, especially considering the market has spoken AND is willing to pay $40+ for remastered versions of older games.

 

[GifGafIsTheBestGaf]

Think Rockstar might port GTAV to NX if it's more powerful than the last generation consoles? I would triple dip to get that game on a handheld!

if nintendo absorbs the 100GB cards cost and the userbase is decent sized i bet they wouldnt mind

btw, how does cards handle updates? are they stored inside the card or in the system? is it possible to write the data in cards?

 

[Calm Mind]

Never said i was buying it. Just want nintendo to live

https://twitter.com/KingBroly/status/757945985536368640

 

[Plinko]

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/nintendo-nx-the-pros-and-cons-of-a-transforming-portable/0170297

but from what we’ve heard it’s going to be cheaper than even the vast majority expect.

Which is amazing, because that rumor (about Nintendo wanting a $199 price point) was floated over a year ago and most people brushed it off.

That would put this in instant impulse buy territory. If they can utilize that SCD patent to release yearly or bi-yearly iterations and increase the power on the TV in the future, this looks like it could be a great system.

 

[KingSnake]

Nintendo said since forever that the NX is not a hybrid device. So better expect the oficial reveal.

Not since forever. Iwata said something 3 years ago that might contradict the idea of hybrid. Many things change in 3 years. Iwata also said many years that Nintendo won't do games on mobile. World changes. People move on.

 

[Reich]

Gotta hold one year, maybe two, before buying Nintendo hardware.

Not gonna do the same mistake aka WiiU.

 

[RichiRamjag]

Sounds like the handheld I always wanted them to make, but not at all what I wanted for him. It's going to be really interesting to see how this goes.

 

[DooMAGE]

There is no oficial source validating this rumour, maybe we are jumping to conclusions too much

 

[Maiar_m]

I'd say $249 is the max they'd consider seeing as the handheld market is the obvious target for this device.

Frankly, they are in trouble if they go above $200.

I'd pay €300 for a good handheld and €350 for a good hybrid easy, and yeah there are rumors it'll be cheap but I don't trust Nintendo with marketing, whether it's pricing or communication, they've always picked the worst possible option for the past few years and I'd rather set my expectations low.

 

[Burai]

For your first comment, what makes you think that? I'm of the mind that it would be entirely possible for them to have a dock that gives the "handheld" of sorts a power boost. I don't think the dock having some supplemental power means the handheld has to be dumb. I'm not going to pretend that I know enough to say definitively either way.

I feel the opposite way about your second statement. I think this will be revealed and marketed as a "console" that you can also take with you on the go with sacrifices. Though many people are looking at this as a handheld for your TV, it's obvious that Nintendo doesn't plan on ditching the 3DS any time soon.

Which release list are you looking at?

It's not as bad as Wii U and Nintendo will obviously want to keep it as the "junior" option, but the 3DS is clearly being wound down.

 

[Okami Haundo]

From the MCV article ...



EG also talked about this as something Nintendo is focusing on, leading me to disagree with the multiple SKU speculation. They are aiming for a low price point, but if they are really going for mass market, a multiple SKU release could be confusing. I could see a regular SKU and a "pro" SKU, similar to the 360 elite/arcade options.

I'm with you on this. I think the "multiple" SKU rumors pertain to what you mentioned, having a "basic" and "pro" model on sale. Multiple SKU's doesn't have to mean two completely different devices...

 

[jroc74]

Probably will vary between $40 and $60... I mean, it wouldn't make sense for Zelda to launch at $40 on NX and $60 on Wii U, they'll both be $60. Something closer to a traditional handheld game will probably be $40.

Yea this makes sense.

Damn...

 

[Plinko]

There is no oficial source validating this rumour, maybe we are jumping to conclusions to much.

There was no official source on OsirisBlack's PS4 Neo rumor, or the Scorpio rumor, either. This is how leaks work. They're never "official."

 

[Enduin]

So I'm reading this right either:

A-This is just a stronger handheld with TV Output

B-This is a stronger Handheld with a Dock Station that provides additional power akin to an MSI GS30 laptop.

I'm all in for supporting those scenarios but I will say this isn't as creative or innovating as Nintendo was making it sound it would be (Both of those scenarios have been done before) and to me it seems like Nintendo has effectively dropped out of the Console market.

Not being an entirely new idea doesn't really matter. The important thing is that one of the biggest gaming developers and console makers is focusing their full attention on it. Previous attempts were just throwaway ideas that were barely ever supported or tried to become a mass market product.

This isn't some smaller hardware manufacturer's super expensive niche product or even some novel feature another major developer added in to a product but never really cared about or supported. This is one of the biggest software/hardware developers out there putting all of their resources and weight behind this one system to make it a truly mass market product with the content to back it up. That's new and a big deal. Whether it will pan out and work though remains to be seen.

 

[KingSnake]

There is no oficial source validating this rumour, maybe we are jumping to conclusions to much.

See below:

So, just to be clear, in addition to Eurogamer, the following outlets have backed up this report to varying degrees:

IGN
Kotaku
WSJ
MCV

No one should be doubting this report at this point.

What official source are you expecting for a rumour?

 

[Papacheeks]

There is no oficial source validating this rumour, maybe we are jumping to conclusions to much.

A bunch of people have validated the authenticity of the leak. From kotaku and up.

So it's real. I mean September is just a month or two away.

 

[Cow Mengde]

The fact that it uses carts and won't have dual screens.

Wii U doesn't use carts and can still play NES to N64 games.

 

[ArchedThunder]

There is no oficial source validating this rumour, maybe we are jumping to conclusions too much

You mean like any rumor? Nintendo isn't going to come out and say "Yeah, the rumor is true guys!"
What's important is that multiple sources are telling Eurogamer(a trusted site with breaking these kinds of things) and that multiple other sites are backing up Eurogamer's article.

 

[ZOONAMI]

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/nintendo-nx-the-pros-and-cons-of-a-transforming-portable/0170297

Them talking about tegra 1 and tegra 2 gives me no reason to believe anything they say. Tegra 2 came out in 2010.

 

[Anth0ny]

Which is amazing, because that rumor (about Nintendo wanting a $199 price point) was floated over a year ago and most people brushed it off.

That would put this in instant impulse buy territory. If they can utilize that SCD patent to release yearly or bi-yearly iterations and increase the power on the TV in the future, this looks like it could be a great system.

I think most brushed it off because we were expecting a traditional console follow up to the Wii U. A successor being priced lower than the Wii U would be pretty crazy.

But if you look at it as a successor to the 3DS, $199 starts to make a lot more sense.

 

[Strife91]

Man, I really hope they port most of the popular Wii U titles to this. I don't really feel like buying a Wii U at all. Titles such as Bayonetta 2 and Xenoblade Chronicles X deserves to be played by more people.

 

[Relix]

So, it's possible the handheld runs games at say... 720P? The dock provides extra power and we can get 1080p plus maybe some extra effects?

 

[casey_contra]

This quote from IGN - based on the Eurogamer article, is a little disheartening:

"According to Eurogamer, the central processing will be handled in the handheld itself, with a TV docking station - into which the console can be plugged - seemingly providing only an external display and not the extra processing power that's been rumoured for some time."

 

[KingSnake]

Them talking about tegra 1 and tegra 2 gives me no reason to believe anything they say. Tegra 2 came out in 2010.

I trust MCV to know their way around prices better than around tech.

 

[Plinko]

Them talking about tegra 1 and tegra 2 gives me no reason to believe anything they say. Tegra 2 came out in 2010.

They forgot the "X."

This quote from IGN - based on the Eurogamer article, is a little disheartening:

"According to Eurogamer, the central processing will be handled in the handheld itself, with a TV docking station - into which the console can be plugged - seemingly providing only an external display and not the extra processing power that's been rumoured for some time."

The EG article didn't actually state that, did it? I must have missed it.

Regardless, even if the first iteration doesn't have it, the SCD patent could be utilized to remedy that issue in a year or two.

 

[Calm waterfall]

All this talk about 3rd parties... Nintendo doesn't need the same games that are on ps4 xboxone. Nintendo has a really good first party, and japanese 3rd party. They just need to open it to indies and it's done.

Really? Sony has good exclusives, Japanese games, indie games, and third party. Why it´s always either or? Third party games are essential for the success of consoles nowadays, unless there is a revolutionary device that can disrupts the market and i can´t see NX doing that. Nintendo should seek third parties like a moth to a flame. Also PS4 got way more Japanese support than the WiiU. Why discount PS4 getting Japanese support, when the PS4 is getting some of the biggest Japanese franchises?

 

[March of the Crabs]

This quote from IGN - based on the Eurogamer article, is a little disheartening:

"According to Eurogamer, the central processing will be handled in the handheld itself, with a TV docking station - into which the console can be plugged - seemingly providing only an external display and not the extra processing power that's been rumoured for some time."

But Eurogamer doesn't really say that at all. Nintendo also patented this concept. I would be very, very shocked if the dock did not enhance performance in some capacity.

 

[Maniel]

Them talking about tegra 1 and tegra 2 gives me no reason to believe anything they say. Tegra 2 came out in 2010.

Come on. It's pretty obvious that they were talking about the Tegra X1 and X2.

 

[Okami Haundo]

Which release list are you looking at?

It's not as bad as Wii U and Nintendo will obviously want to keep it as the "junior" option, but the 3DS is clearly being wound down.

I agree with you and feel I should rephrase that a bit. I think the 3DS still has plenty of quality titles on the way, though they definitely are starting to "wind it down". It may not have years of life left, but the 3DS has more than enough games in the pipeline, especially compared to the Wii-U. For that reason I don't see them marketing NX as a handheld system. I think that will just be a benefit of sorts.

 

[ZOONAMI]

I trust MCV to know their way around prices better than around tech.

Well, $199 I hope. Should sell a lot of these if that's the day one price.

 

[wowbaggerBR]

Meh, ARM chip on it? I'm out.

 

[Wafflecakes]

$199 = Will Buy
$249 = Might Buy
$299 = Will Not Buy


Your move Nintendo.

 

[casey_contra]

But Eurogamer doesn't really say that at all. Nintendo also patented this concept. I would be very, very shocked if the dock did not enhance performance in some capacity.

Yeah that's what confused me - I consulted the Eurogamer article and couldn't see it, so i wasn't sure if IGN said that based on their interpretation or based on additional knowledge they have.

 

[phanphare]

Please a OLED screen Nintendo ! PLEASE !

ew, this is a gaming device

 

[Deleted member 752119]

I forgot about the Captain Toad release. With an assumed increased in releases, I hope that they keep that model and differentiate a Zelda/Mario experience with the higher price point, rather than making it across the board. Although they probably will charge a premium on the Pokemon games, pushing them up to $50 or $60

Yep. And hell, even Splatoon launched at $40 in Europe. We got shafted on that one in the US.

Not since forever. Iwata said something 3 years ago that might contradict the idea of hybrid. Many things change in 3 years. Iwata also said many years that Nintendo won't do games on mobile. World changes. People move on.

Exactly. Including his death. Which likely gave investors who had long be pressing for changes even more sway. Along with the management restructuring. Plus Nintendo has a strong history of saying one thing and doing something else even without those kind of changes.

I'm all for change. Iwata helped Nintendo make a ton of money in the Wii/DS era. But I hated the direction they went and those are easily my two least favorite platforms of theirs (ignoring Virtual Boy anyway, which is the only one I never bought).

Them talking about tegra 1 and tegra 2 gives me no reason to believe anything they say. Tegra 2 came out in 2010.

So they left out the Xs. Big deal X1 and X2 are clearly what they mean.

 

[Burai]

Them talking about tegra 1 and tegra 2 gives me no reason to believe anything they say. Tegra 2 came out in 2010.

You know what he meant, don't be obtuse.

 

[Sydle]

A portable with TV out that has the power of a Wii U sounds great. If it's $250 or less then I'm in.

 

[March of the Crabs]

Yeah that's what confused me - I consulted the Eurogamer article and couldn't see it, so i wasn't sure if IGN said that based on their interpretation or based on additional knowledge they have.

Probably just IGN being IGN. NX has too much water or something.

 

[Asd202]

This guy is mega hyped for the NX

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3Lgor6A3AI

lol

https://twitter.com/KingBroly/status/757945985536368640

lol

 

[Portugeezer]

$199 = Will Buy
$249 = Might Buy
$299 = Will Not Buy


Your move Nintendo.

$298 confirmed.

 

[KAL2006]

Well, $199 I hope. Should sell a lot of these if that's the day one price.

That's probably day 1 price for just tablet and controller attachment

But dock bundle will no doubt be $250 to $300 depending if it has additional processor. 250 with no additional processor and 300 with additional processor it depends what Nintendo are going for.

Has any experts on GAF found out the cost to having additional processor on the dock and the technical cost of doing this.

 

[BGBW]

This guy is mega hyped for the NX

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3Lgor6A3AI

Is this guy a choo choo train?

 

[notaskwid]

One thing about the price, a Surface pro 4 costs like 1000 euros and is still very much weaker than a PS4 or Xbox1, right? How will Nintendo make a portable console more powerful than it and sell it for 200~?

 

[nightside]

I really hope they go with down-clocking the more powerful chip.

A second chip in the dock would be cool too.

 

[calc84maniac]

Meh, ARM chip on it? I'm out.

ARM is the future! x86 has too much baggage.

 

[casey_contra]

Probably just IGN being IGN. NX has too much water or something.

NX 7.8 confirmed

;P

 

[ZOONAMI]

Come on. It's pretty obvious that they were talking about the Tegra X1 and X2.

Yeah, but then that's what they should write. Writing tegra 1 and tegra 2 means they kind don't know jack shit about tegra. All they had to do was read the eurogamer and use the tegra x1 from that. They shouldn't change it to tegra 1 and tegra 2. And if it's a typo they should proof their articles before publishing them.