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Metroid Prime: Federation Force Review Thread
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This is another outsourced spinoff, I doubt it's reception will affect anything. Mario Tennis, StarFox, Amiibo Festival and Federation Force were cheap schedule fillers and nothing more. I'm sure that internally Nintendo was realistic about the prospects for all these recent games.
That game has okay online community, but it's really played best locally. I'd say it does better online than TFH or FF because it's easier to understand what you want to do (Kill the thing, Capture the thing, or find things) versus (Do this puzzle, escort this thing, etc.). It's just another failure on Nintendo's part to understand how MH works and their efforts don't.
dreamlongdead
Member
So basically, this game turned out good. 3DS gains yet another solid title to its library. The initial showings looked poor, but it's nice that Next Level Games pleasantly surprised us.
My big problem with a lot of multiplayer focused games is that they tend to die when you don't have friends or an active online community to play with.
Despite this game's quality, I may not actually have a chance to enjoy it. I'm busy with a lot of other games right now.
Yeah, this is another good game that received some mixed reviews from critics.
My big problem with a lot of multiplayer focused games is that they tend to die when you don't have friends or an active online community to play with.
Despite this game's quality, I may not actually have a chance to enjoy it. I'm busy with a lot of other games right now.
Yeah, this is another good game that received some mixed reviews from critics.
Sorry here, but i am going to fight u for that statement here lol.
MH series had shows that Online gaming can work on Handheld as well as home devices.
Steel Diver:Sub Wars is easily one of the best experience i had ever had playing submarine battle online.^_^
Kid Icarus Uprising take 120 hours of me gaming only on multiplayer
This is also not counting, Fantasy Life, Mario Kart 7, Animal Crossing New Leaf, Final Fantasy Explorers, especially the great Pokemon series sublime online experiences.
Really? So a Nintendo centric site can't objectively review Nintendo games? lol
I would imagine that they especially would be looking quite sceptically at a game like this for the same reasons so many fans are up in arms.
Anyway, I'm waiting for USGamer as always to weigh in if I'm not sure about a game.
They never let me down, so I'm going with them to see if I'll pick this up or not.
Magicpaint
Member
Yeah, since I won't be playing multi that much, if at all, I don't think this one's for me. Shame because I actually enjoyed Hunters.
I think Metroid's lack of success compared to other franchises that took inspiration from it, can be attributed to the mismatch between what Metroid is and what strategy Nintendo follows with their platforms. The usual target audience of relatively dark first person action adventures like Metroid Prime just isn't the one that Nintendo usually caters to. The mismatch was there on the GameCube and it only grew once Nintendo took the low-power direction of Wii and Wii U, further alienating the kind of audience that is primarily interested in this kind of game.
Nintendo tried to make Prime 3 more appealing to the masses by making it more heavy on the action and less oppressing (thus making it more accessible), but that didn't have the desired effect either. With Other M they took a more traditional direction while putting more focus on the story, but that was already doomed to fail due to its sheer quality (or lack thereof).
I'm not saying Metroid (Prime) would be a 5-10 million seller on other platforms (I think it's usually too slow and eccentric to reach that level), but I do imagine the series could have had a healthier life somewhere where the mismatch wasn't as pronounced.
The reviews of Kotaku, Eurogamer, USGamer, GamingNexus, Attack of the Fanboy all sound decent enough for me. Looking at Open Critic, only IGN, Nintendo Enthusiast and Destructoid seem so far to be the only ones actually thinking it's a flat out bad game, with the majority of the reviews coming to more of a "flawed but solid" conclusion.
Nintendo keeps bungling it. Either they put all their marketing eggs into a basket for a game that isn't very good (Other M), they put it out at the wrong time (Prime 2), the marketing is atrocious (Prime 3) OR they completely ran out of ideas for it (After Super Metroid).
I tried the demo and liked it, still getting it d1. Sorry.
BioShock has nothing to do with Metroid's gameplay or progression style and its level design is far too linear to even compare it to that kind of game, it's more like a dumbed down SS2. TR is as linear as it gets now, and even before had very little to do with Metroid. A bit of backtracking doesn't make a game Metroid style. The only title you mentioned with that progression style is Arkham Asylum, but it had the Batman license to drive sales, and the hype behind it because it was the first good superhero game in a long time.
Metroid Prime sold near 3 million copies (2.7).
BioShock has nothing to do with Metroid's gameplay or progression style and its level design is far too linear to even compare it to that kind of game, it's more like a dumbed down SS2. TR is as linear as it gets now, and even before had very little to do with Metroid. A bit of backtracking doesn't make a game Metroid style. The only title you mentioned with that progression style is Arkham Asylum, but it had the Batman license to drive sales, and the hype behind it because it was the first good superhero game in a long time.
Ulysses 31
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Video Review:
Metroid Prime: Federation Force Review | Abomination or Harmless Spinoff?
Verdict:
Metroid Prime: Federation Force Review | Abomination or Harmless Spinoff?
Verdict:
Good game and spin off and woth the 40$.
WiiRevolution1
Member
*Looks at 618+ hours of Smash 3DS.
Yeah, fuck that. Online on portables all the way!!
Tom Nook Sawyer
Member
Or, you know, they actually liked the game on its own merits?
It's amazing how some people are struggling with the fact that this game isn't a complete failure
Peterthumpa
Member
I still can't believe OpenCritic's score system. a 67 is a weak game and 70+ is "fair".
Their review breakdown just translates into reality how flawed this classification is:
3 strong reviews, 3 fair reviews, 3 weak reviews - therefore, it's a "weak" game.
Fuck this shit.
dreamlongdead
Member
Jeremy Parish has been positive towards the game, so I would expect maybe a 3.5 at least. Possibly a 4.
USGamer as a whole is very credible. Jeremy and Kat's reviews are extremely relevant for my personal gaming tastes. Jaz and Mike are excellent at what they do, too. I disagree with a lot of Bob Mackey's review scores, but I respect him for being a cool guy with interesting gaming opinions and simply being a great journalist.
Why not? Super Metroid is regarded critically as one of the greatest games of all time. It's used as an example of superb level design in some Game Design courses. Some like me consider it almost perfect.
Metroid Prime is another example of an almost perfect game. Retro managed to turn a 2D exploration game into a 3D one. From what I can tell, the transition from 2D to 3D has never been easy, but Prime pulled it off perfectly.
Prime has some of the best moments in gaming I've ever experienced.
Metroid is a legendary franchise.
So, good according to the fanboy sites and rather measily according to anyone else. Nintendo following the famous 3rd party conundrum:
"let's test the waters with this Metroid spin-off. If they don't buy it, the fans no longer want Metroid. If they do buy it, we'll give 'm more of this crap"
"let's test the waters with this Metroid spin-off. If they don't buy it, the fans no longer want Metroid. If they do buy it, we'll give 'm more of this crap"
Tom Nook Sawyer
Member
Kotaku's a fanboy site?
And Metroid Prime 2 struggled to even break a million.
Based purely on anecdotal evidence, I think a lot of people bought Metroid Prime thinking it was more of a traditional shooter and then were disappointed by what it actually is. At least that was the impression I got back in the day (I always knew more people who couldn't get into it than people who loved it for the amazing game it is).
Sorry our great lord nkarafo. It seems some of us peasant had really low standards that we can like FF here.TT
nkarafo
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You just said you only played one game. And then claim it's not legendary, even though you just admitted you don't know any better. OK i guess?
For most fans who actually played all those games, Metroid is a legendary franchise. And let me tell you, the best games in the series (Super Metroid, Metroid Prime) have set ridiculously high standards for the franchise, that this little generic game doesn't even attempt to acknowledge but hey, we can slap "spinoff" on it, just like those Nintendo execs slapped the title "Metroid" and call it a day.
I forgive you.
Devilgunman
Member
Aka wait-for-a-deep-discount kind of game.
My eyes just rolled out of my head
Jimmyfenix
Member
I agree with this
Those are about the only two games that get universal praise though. The mainline games before Super are generally trashed (unfairly imo, but still trashed) and the mainline games after are all treated like they are inferior, especially Other M. None of the Prime games are held in the same regard as the first either and there's also Hunters and Pinball.
I don't think many people looking at the franchise as a whole consider it to be one with consistent quality, even if you ignore a few of the more poorly received installments.
Having spent nearly 250 hours online across Hunter 4U and Generations,, not to mention dozens more in Mario Kart, I disagree.
The difference with those games is that I could happily progress in the single player during my commute, then play a bit of multiplayer on my lunch break or at home- MH also has a campaign offering dozens of hours of play balanced for single player in addition to online multiplayer and local co-op. It's an amazingly generous game in terms of sheer content with hundreds of missions if you choose to try and finish everything, and your inventory carries across all modes.
The games centred around online on portables that I'm not so much of a fan of are like Triforce Heroes (and it sounds like Metroid FF) where it sounds like the whole game is one path balanced specifically around co-op with little concession to those playing alone. Having AI drones in multiplayer puzzle sections is always going to feel slow and unintuitive compared to human allies.
That's the thing isn't it?
Finding people you can trust as well as have their gaming tastes line up somewhat with you own.
Back in the day I had the CVG and Official Sega Saturn magazine crew to fall back on, but nowadays, the only site that consistently measures up with what I want from games is USGamer.
Shiren the Wanderer is a good example. Never played a shiren game and the only Roguelike that I played and loved was Rogue Legacy. But seeing that 5/5 from them made me pick up the game immediately and it ended up being one of the most surprisingly addictive games for me this year.
I never claimed it is not legendary though just i feel that term is just thrown easily lol.
I never played all the other titles so i won't feel the so called Legendary rage for this spinoff and off course, sales off the series also shows that it is not that difficult to reach the so called Legendary status lol.
nkarafo
Member
I have the feeling that if it wasn't called Metroid, the scores would be lower (and the interest as well). The use of the title/lore adds a few points automatically.
The status of Metroid's reputation isn't based around sales, it's based around Super Metroid and Prime being widely recognised as awesome games. Super Metroid almost routinely sits near the top of 'best SNES/Nintendo games' lists despite selling far, far less than it's stablemates.
If sales was the only prerequisite for a game achieving 'legendary' status, the various forum favourites that pop up for discussion time and again would be very different.
Or takes them away, depending on your point of view.
Both Super Metroid and Metroid Prime are widely recognized to be among the best games of all time, I'm not sure what else a series needs to be recognized as legendary. The discussion was never about sales numbers, which sadly never reflected Metroid's reputation among critics and game enthusiasts.
nkarafo
Member
I agree but i think what you are talking about is how user reviews work mostly.
I'm talking about professional reviews though. I have the feeling that they don't usually score popular title/lore games too low, even when it's deserved.
Edit: And now that i think about it, OtherM did the same thing, having a decent, almost great Meta score (79) but a much lower user score (66). Giving a positive score to a mediocre/bad game causes less trouble and controversy for professional reviewers than doing the opposite i guess. Nobody is going to get death threats because they didn't give an awful score to a game people hate, because positivity is less offensive to people i assume? So i feel like sometimes, they keep a more cautiously positive attitude overall when it comes to popular titles.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
69 in metacritic is not just some mixed reviews.
I've been told in other Metroid threads that a 79 is critically panned though and indicates that it was trashed by critics:
http://www.metacritic.com/game/wii/metroid-other-m
I always consider Legendary franchise to be used as franchise which had been damn popular and successful. While those which only produced really great title but failed to reach financially success is considered as great niche title. To avoid further derailing this topic, i will accept that my usage of Legendary is wrong here.T_T
But i still feel the rage is not something reasonable no matter how Legendary one franchise can be.
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orthodoxy1095
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It's sitting in the bottom 32% of games logged on OpenCritic.
Calling it "good" is more than a bit premature and misleading.
Calling it "good" is more than a bit premature and misleading.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
It could be worse is probably the most accurate description. it's at least not a $60 game