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Ghost of Tsushima - Review Thread

JTCx

Member
My gripe so far is that performance is absolutely horrible in OG PS4.
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I don't like the wind navigation at all. The world is really not designed in a way that you can navigate organically. Most of it so far is flat, with trees blocking some view, and a lack of distinct landmarks. This means that to find anything at all, you basically have to mark it on your map, and then spam the wind button over and over to figure out which way to go while a distance meter on the top left tells you the number of meters you are from the objective. It's not immersive to me, and honestly takes me even further out of the game than a compass or quest marker, because I'm constantly having to spam the wind button over and over to make sure I'm not just riding into the wrong direction with no clue.
You're doing it wrong, as soon as you set a target on the map the wind starts blowing in that direction, even without you having to use the guiding wind. You only need to use it when you are close to the target, but even then it's not really needed. I rarely use the guiding wind.
 

Hobbygaming

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For those currently playing/finishing the game:

Would you say that the review averages of 83 & 85 are generally spot on? Should it be higher or lower? 80 range scores are generally categorized as “great: These games leave us with something outstanding to remember them by, usually novel gameplay ideas for single-player or multiplayer, clever characters and writing, noteworthy graphics and sound, or some combination thereof. If we have major complaints, there are more than enough excellent qualities to cancel them out.“
The game started off with great pacing and the game is getting even better as I'm mastering the combat and I just unlocked kunai's that Jin can throw

It's also the most gorgeous game. I'd rate it an 88 right now. Though I do like it more than Horizon Zero Dawn and God of War
 

Hobbygaming

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Honestly, so far I am pretty disappointed. It just feels like Sucker Punch has sacrificed their focus on fun gameplay to chase the "immersion" and graphics as their focus. I'm still very early in the game, so I could change my mind for sure.

I don't like the wind navigation at all. The world is really not designed in a way that you can navigate organically. Most of it so far is flat, with trees blocking some view, and a lack of distinct landmarks. This means that to find anything at all, you basically have to mark it on your map, and then spam the wind button over and over to figure out which way to go while a distance meter on the top left tells you the number of meters you are from the objective. It's not immersive to me, and honestly takes me even further out of the game than a compass or quest marker, because I'm constantly having to spam the wind button over and over to make sure I'm not just riding into the wrong direction with no clue.

Items are so blended into the environment that you can barely even see them highlighted enough to collect them. I literally searched a whole room and barely saw one of the main collectibles. Supply bags and bamboo eventually become recognizable, but it's still not ideal.

The camera is extremely tight and up close to the main character. Following footprints is even less fun than in The Witcher because they're not even visible most of the time. You're not able to see your surrounds and the skyline easily, or enemies surrounding you become obscured with the camera pulled in so close. The only reason to do that is to focus on graphics and "immersion," but it just makes it so I can't hardly see what's going on.

Combat is not great either. Hammer enemies spam unblockable attacks 3-5x in a row. Animations look fragmented and juttery. Controls are not responsive 100% of the time when doing hold moves. There are very little graphical indications that you're low on health, forcing you to always look at the extremely small bar on the bottom left (immersion!). The guard break system for enemies is not very fun, amounting to basically just spamming the heavy attack button on each enemy. Shooting the bow does not feel good, especially after Days Gone with it's subtle gyro. Enemies at a distance are so visually indistinct that you often have to squint to even see them in the archery quest. The controls for archery are extremely unresponsive as well. If you're holding L2 to aim and get shot, you don't return to your aim stance. You have to let go of L2 and start over. Your ammo number is also not that visible (immersion) and you may run out of ammo and not even know it immediately because it's the same as when the controls don't respond. I don't find the archers that fun to fight either if you focus on melee.

The whole game feels janky in terms of character movement. The horse is not smooth when accelerating and turning. Mounted combat sucks as well.

Stealth is not great, with zero ability to mark enemies making this feel very primitive compared to newer stealth focused games. The focused hearing is more x-ray vision, which is the lowest form of correction for bad game design. Enemy placement and level design is not great for stealth, so fix it with x-ray vision instead of crafting it intelligently. And you have to spam it on and off a lot, which is tedious and annoying, and the color washed out look is not great when using it. You can't even move bodies, which sucks. Even Tenchu Z feels like it has 100x the stealth options this game does. Obviously more is coming, so we'll see.

I'm so into samurai and ninja stuff that I'll still enjoy the game, and probably try to platinum it. But I'm honestly not even having that much fun so far. The story is not that great either. Having the game throw stupid guilt trip memories at you after you decide to pursue the ghost path is dumb. They missed the chance to have him train as a ninja as well, and he instead just kind of picks it up immediately and it feels extremely rushed. The story in inFamous SS felt better so far. Cutscenes are also often stiff and lifeless, unless they're main story ones which are all pretty awesome.

Right now I'm leaning towards a 7 out of 10, which emphasis on good graphics. Navigating in this world is a chore, and feels worse than almost all other open world games. I don't enjoy spamming the wind button and just awkwardly riding into the void, completely blind, in a game that doesn't have strong enough level design to promote organic exploration.

Nioh 2 is 20x as good as this game, has tons of weapons with way more depth than this, way more enemies, way more bosses, better level design, online co-op, better cutscenes, better everything. I agree with Edge's review. This game is not going to be remembered as top tier after the dust settles. I'm honestly shocked that their visual and art design decisions are so bad for supporting clear gameplay. Everything destructible or interactive in that game looked clearly designated with yellow highlights and still looked stunning artistically, while promoting extremely clear gameplay options. This is an excessively "realistic" looking game that's tough to actually play correctly and would be better off as a movie.
Bro track your destinations on the map to make it easier on yourself, also items you can pick up, light up every second. It sounds like me and you are playing two different games from your early review lol
 
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Gamernyc78

Banned
I agree 100% on all of that except for Bloodborne, just couldn't get into that game. Days Gone is an awesome game though and graphically it's one of the most impressive open world games this gen, yeah it's realistic and not stylized but man it looks good.

BTW nice arms lol.

Thanks lol and I respect everyone's opinion as long as they convey it respectfully. Hey, your talking to a guy tht hates Witcher 3, RDR2 and thought Botw was OK lol. It's a blessing there are so many quality games out there to fill everyone's likes and desires.

Btw, Ghost of T just keeps getting better, I'm fucking loving it. I think at the end of all this I'll be raising my score to like a 90 :)
 
I feel bad going the ghost route after all that lecture about honor and respecting the enemy from Uncle's speech. Especially after how Jin felt when he did his first assassination. lol
 
Thanks lol and I respect everyone's opinion as long as they convey it respectfully. Hey, your talking to a guy tht hates Witcher 3, RDR2 and thought Botw was OK lol. It's a blessing there are so many quality games out there to fill everyone's likes and desires.

Btw, Ghost of T just keeps getting better, I'm fucking loving it. I think at the end of all this I'll be raising my score to like a 90 :)

Same here. Hate witcher 3,rdr2 and botw was okay to me too lol.
But I love GOT (at least for now) . Maybe because of it combat and how great the traversal is (love the horse control and animation). I think the guide wind is genius move from sucker punch. I can see a lots of game will borrow this idea.
And fuck “no lock on” option btw. Hope they will add it later :D
 

Gamernyc78

Banned
Same here. Hate witcher 3,rdr2 and botw was okay to me too lol.
But I love GOT (at least for now) . Maybe because of it combat and how great the traversal is (love the horse control and animation). I think the guide wind is genius move from sucker punch. I can see a lots of game will borrow this idea.
And fuck “no lock on” option btw. Hope they will add it later :D

Yup combat makes a game for me everytime. Shit like story is secondary to me. Give me good combat and I'll enjoy the game 😊

Bro this game is super gorgeous, it's amazing the shit devs pull off.
 

-Plasma Reus-

Service guarantees member status
This is a bad game. Not terrible, but honestly the story and character animations just aren't good.

To top it off, it feels the need to jump into cut scenes every 5 minutes in the first few hours. The story isn't exciting enough to justify this.

So far a 6.5.

This is literally assassin's creed levels of writing.
 
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Gamerguy84

Member
Im loving tue game so far. The gameplay and character control are great which is huge for me. Its gorgeous on PS4PRO.

Im just taking a break and drinking a beer outside on my porch for a few minutes.
 
F

Foamy

Unconfirmed Member
I watched a video today of the first 15 minutes of the game and decided to hold off on buying till PS5 launch.
This game deserves to be played while at its best.
 

THEAP99

Banned
Played a few hours of Ghosts of Tsushima.
So far:

It’s mostly enjoyable but not really anything special or that great.

The strengths of the game are in the samurai combat (minus the odd camera), soundtrack, & in the way the world’s exploration spots are presented in a very natural & minimalistic way!

Sword combat is very very satisfying! And it’s very nice how naturally you’ll come upon things that you’ll want to check out. The soundtrack just adds to how great those things are!


Weaknesses in the game lie within the lame stealth combat, uninteresting & very gamey enemies, janky/floaty platforming, a pretty uninteresting story led by unconvincing voice acting & facial animation, not to mention the character models are meh, & typical open world quests that consist of investigating following + tracks, and taking out enemy camps.

The game is pretty at times, but far from the best looking game this generation due to outdated animation systems and some very plain textures.

Being truthful to what I think, played, and see with my own eyes, this is really just a 2015-2016 game releasing extremely late. It’s quite outdated in like all aspects minus a fresh coat of paint in how exploration is presented to the player & the superb photomode.

Like the fade to black cut scenes constantly, characters standing completely still when talking to each other, lack of gameplay to cut scene transitions, etc.. It’s really not compelling whatsoever when the camera is rolling, or characters are talking, which isn’t good for a narrative based game. It’s a really clumsy package of a game so far.

But in reality it is what it is. It’s a Suckerpunch game, it’s fun, but not very good or memorable.

I hope as I continue to play, the characters and quests will improve. Sadly the other weaknesses I mentioned seem like a lost cause. ‬

‪Definitely a wait for sale unless you just absolutely love formulaic open world games with some Sony twists. ‬
 

PresetError

Neophyte
As expected, people loved it. Currently has a 91 Metacritic from users with almost 800 reviews (+700 of them positive).

I expect it to go down once the word spreads about a Sony exclusive being well received by the public and counter ratings with zeros from people warming up for the next gen war. It doesn't really matter.
 

Yoboman

Member
Don’t shoot the messenger, whether artistic changes or tech downgrade - I can see from this why I was impressed from initial showing, after not as much....

Edit: have not played game myself yet


Thats mostly just time of day and weather effects. Looks the same once the effects are matching in that sunset boss fight
 

Vawn

Banned
This game is better than I expected, and I expected a lot. Right now I'd probably rate it about a 9.5. Frontrunner for GOTY for me alongside TLOU 2 and FFVII Remake.
 

GhostOfTsu

Banned
The world is so pretty I've been going around on my horse, taking pictures and exploring for about 5 hours. I didn't even do the first story mission yet. It reminds me of a next-gen Okami. It's so vibrant and colorful.

Is this the prettiest open world game ever? GOT should get as much praise as BOTW.
 
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Not sure on this game. Played a few hours and it's just kind of....bland. The combat is fun, but also really frustrating with the camera and scenery blocking views. Certainly not the worst game in the world, but hopefully it picks up
 

Rea

Member
Solid 9.5/10 for me. This game is enjoyable, beautiful and combat is sick. It is not a perfect game but no game is perfect especially for a fresh new IP game. There's quite abit of things to improve and hope they will polish with the sequel.
 

idrago01

Banned
The fade to black is a nod to old akira kurosawa films, I think they really nailed the environment and atmosphere, the combat is fun but I would've liked a lock on option and the camera can be spotty, I like the open world design although it's tough to see where the wind is blowing sometimes, decent outfit customization for the fashion souls fans, and so far the characters are likeable and well written for the most part with a good pace to the main story.

I could definttely see how people could get tired of the amount of battles in the game. I try to make the fights as flashy as possible and play a lot of fighting games, so I like learning how to parry, do combos, and just try to use every tool available, but I can see how the combat could be boring if someone's just mashing triangle and changing stances. Going stealth on the other hand makes the game feel a little too much like assassin's creed and way too easy. The duels are a nice touch but the mechanic can seem redundant after your 25th battle or so, I wish they would add some variety to the animations or do something to provide an extra challenge. And of course being a western game they have to subtlety throw in their woke agenda, like the female wannabee samurai who acts like a mary sue and is supposed to train a group of men to fight in feudal japan (bitches can't even coach football to grown men in modern times and I'm supposed to believe these guys are ok getting instructions about fighting a war from some girl with no training or position in feudal japan). And of course the females are all fugly on purpose, which was predictable, and they inexplicably add a fighting grandma samurai, which no one asked for and breaks the immersion when playing that story, this isn't devil hunter yohko for crissakes.
 
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GreyHorace

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And of course being a western game they have to subtlety throw in their woke agenda, like the female wannabee samurai who acts like a mary sue and is supposed to train a group of men to fight in feudal japan (bitches can't even coach football to grown men in modern times and I'm supposed to believe these guys are ok getting instructions about fighting a war from some girl with no training or position in feudal japan). And of course the females are all fugly on purpose, which was predictable, and they inexplicably add a fighting grandma samurai, which no one asked for and breaks the immersion when playing that story, this isn't devil hunter yohko for crissakes.


Onna-bugeisha (女武芸者, "female martial artist") was a type of female warrior belonging to the Japanese nobility. These women engaged in battle alongside samurai men mostly in times of need. They were members of the bushi (samurai) class in feudal Japan and were trained in the use of weapons to protect their household, family, and honour in times of war. Significant icons such as Tomoe Gozen, Nakano Takeko, Empress Jingū and Hōjō Masako are famous examples of onna-bugeisha.

Please don't make retarded statements unless you've brushed up on your Japanese history. The presence of female samurai in the game is inline with historical fact and very believable. It's only during the Edo period (1600-1868) which saw 200+ years of peace in Japan, that the samurai went from being warriors to bureaucrats and their wives devoted themselves to household duties.
 

Eliciel

Member
Game keeps getting better for me, 12h in and really astonished by the results especially in gameplay , a very satisfying and deep fighting System
 
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rofif

Can’t Git Gud
Not sure on this game. Played a few hours and it's just kind of....bland. The combat is fun, but also really frustrating with the camera and scenery blocking views. Certainly not the worst game in the world, but hopefully it picks up
That's my worry. All review are great but the game looks super bland, slow and generic. Don't help that anytime I check out some steam, it's night and then the lighting looks super flat. I mean, slow is fine... I love death stranding and tlou2(tlou2 was too long). I also really enjoyed 2nd son.
Also, the delivery of choice lines is super slow. They are just stranding there and slowly moving their mouths..
I will get it but probably wait for sale
 

idrago01

Banned



Please don't make retarded statements unless you've brushed up on your Japanese history. The presence of female samurai in the game is inline with historical fact and very believable. It's only during the Edo period (1600-1868) which saw 200+ years of peace in Japan, that the samurai went from being warriors to bureaucrats and their wives devoted themselves to household duties.
Lol okay, put one of your "female samurais" up against a male and see who wins, let alone a 65 year old granny. if they had any utility in battle it was likely as a defensive nature, after most of the men were killed and no one else is left. It's just common sense.

"The reasons for female participation in battles may be summarised as follows: by and large, female involvement in conflict was of a defensive nature. Thus, apart from one or two ambiguous examples, there are no records of women being recruited to serve in armies or ordered to fight, neither do there appear to be any authentic examples of all-women armies."

 

GreyHorace

Member
Lol okay, put one of your "female samurais" up against a male and see who wins, let alone a 65 year old granny. if they had any utility in battle it was likely as a defensive nature, after most of the men were killed and no one else is left. It's just common sense.

"The reasons for female participation in battles may be summarised as follows: by and large, female involvement in conflict was of a defensive nature. Thus, apart from one or two ambiguous examples, there are no records of women being recruited to serve in armies or ordered to fight, neither do there appear to be any authentic examples of all-women armies."


Did I say they'd win in a straight up fight against men? Of course I'd expect women to take a supporting role during times of war.

As for the granny, how the hell would you feel to have to witness your entire family slaughtered and you had to bury them with your own hands? Masako Adachi has reason enough to be pissed to go off on her own seeking revenge. And at her age she's got nothing too lose.

Let's state the real issue here, which is your teen edgelord whining over a videogame featuring WAHMEN in fighting roles. Not every game is guilty of SJW forced diversity and so far Ghost of Tsushima doesn't seem to be falling into that trap. Reserve your scorn for blatant offenses to history like Battlefield 5.

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Gediminas

Banned
83 MC score seems low for the very positive - glowing reactions I'm hearing from people online who are playing it. Am I missing something?
Days Gone has 71, yet real players and customers were very happy with the game. ratio was like 100:1 to negative comments, very warm receptions and recommendation pushed thousands upon thousands sold games.

it is the same with this game. i personally don't see how this game has lower than 9 on metacritic, i played already over 10 hours, it is 9,5 out of 10 for now.
 
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Hobbygaming

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Thanks lol and I respect everyone's opinion as long as they convey it respectfully. Hey, your talking to a guy tht hates Witcher 3, RDR2 and thought Botw was OK lol. It's a blessing there are so many quality games out there to fill everyone's likes and desires.

Btw, Ghost of T just keeps getting better, I'm fucking loving it. I think at the end of all this I'll be raising my score to like a 90 :)
I think my score might reach a 90 for Ghost of Tsushima as well. This game has soul. The combat and standoffs are addicting and the combat has more depth than I originally thought. The game is also damn beautiful
 

Darkone

Member
I watched a video today of the first 15 minutes of the game and decided to hold off on buying till PS5 launch.
This game deserves to be played while at its best.

Going to do that too but i wounder how the PS5 will manage to make it better.
 
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DryvBy

Member
83 MC score seems low for the very positive - glowing reactions I'm hearing from people online who are playing it. Am I missing something?

Gamespot said not being able to cut down bamboo trees was a negative. Just keep that in mind when you think professional reviews are good sources of info when we have streamers and YouTube that master reviews now.

They've reviewed this game lower than AC games and that's a shame. It's a terrific game and for a new IP, near perfect.
 

Panajev2001a

GAF's Pleasant Genius
Real score 90.
No LGBT character: - 2 points
There are no black people: -2 points
Anti immigrants propaganda : -1,5 points
Cultural appropriation: -1 point
You can kill animals: -0,5 points
Total score: 83

You won the award of all awards for calling the “Mongols horde” migrants, you have a gift for PR you genius :messenger_clapping:.
 
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