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[Soulblighter31]

Its weird how resolution suddenly doesn’t matter anymore when xbox has that advantage? Strange, i would never accuse any site of platform bias or anything, but it seems weird

Whats that, mister ps5 avatar ?

The victim posing of sony tribals really is pretty sickening. The most popular console of last gen, outselling xbox more than 2 to 1, with the entirety of the press cock sucking its shitty cinematic exclusives for the entire gen and the console with the most fanatical fanbase in existence and the largest number of them - posing as victims and underdogs. What the flying fuck ?

 

[Snake29]

Now the rushed launch games are out of the way, XSX really seems to be changing the tide.

Lol these are previous gen titles. This isn't even a launch game, just patches and still not using the consoles capabilities, since it's still using PS4 Pro's settings.

 

[Fulcizombie]

Impossible when its available on the last gen and virtually identical to the last gen.

What ? Did you even watch the video ? This game has new native version for both ps5&XSX. It is exactly like the new cross gen games.

 

[Stuart360]

Typical Bathalia way of thinking... deny or find a excuse for anything that seems better on PS5

You should be thankful he even said it. Most sites probably wouldnt even mention a 2 second loading difference as its nothing.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Typical Bathalia way of thinking... deny or find a excuse for anything that seems better on PS5

Awesome. You finally bring up load times when PS5 wins. Where were you in Nov and Dec when people compared loading times across probably 10 games and Series S was loading games faster than PS5? Way to cherry pick.

 

[ethomaz]

You should be thankful he even said it. Most sites probably wouldnt even mention a 2 second loading difference as its nothing.

Typical Stuart360 reply... deny or try to make excuse to anything pro PS and con Xbox lol

Awesome. You finally bring up load times when PS5 wins. Where were you in Nov and Dec when people compared loading times across probably 10 games and Series S was loading games faster than PS5? Way to cherry pick.

Nope.

You can play sub 2 seconds games on PS5 since launch lol

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

What ? Did you even watch the video ? This game has new native version for both ps5&XSX. It is exactly like the new cross gen games.

Did you?
Cross generational is not current gen.

 

[Stuart360]

You know you are scraping the 'save face' barrel when you try to make a big deal out of an extra 2 seconds on loading.

 

[Topher]

Its weird how resolution suddenly doesn’t matter anymore when xbox has that advantage? Strange, i would never accuse any site of platform bias or anything, but it seems weird

DF is is saying resolution "doesn't matter" because they are biased against Xbox?

 

[Stuart360]

Typical Stuart360 reply... deny or try to make excuse to anything pro PS and con Xbox lol

You sound really distressed Ethomaz, its alright, its only a last gen game remember.

 

[ethomaz]

You sound really distressed Ethomaz, its alright, its only a last gen game remember.

I have no ideia what are talking about... what I posted are just facts anybody can see or better read... it is not the first or the last... it is already a trend.

When you show a difference and try to excuse it then you entered in the biased side... that is what Bathallia does in every article.

I’m biased... it is fine I’m a fan... you are biased it is fine your are a fan.
Bathallia is biased... it is not fine... he is supposed to be a professional.

 

[Fulcizombie]

Did you?
Cross generational is not current gen.

For the foreseeable future every 3rd party game will be cross gen. The code is still native ps5/XSX code , this isn’t a BC patch.

 

[ManaByte]

Its weird how resolution suddenly doesn’t matter anymore when xbox has that advantage? Strange, i would never accuse any site of platform bias or anything, but it seems weird

Resolution mattered in 2013 when the PS4 was running games at 1080p and the Xbox One was doing 720p (eventually 900p when tools improved).

That changed when the PS4 Pro and Xbox One X released where one console could hit higher resolutions that the other couldn't.

 

[Stuart360]

I have no ideia what are talking about... what I posted are just facts anybody can see or better read... it is not the first or the last... it is already a trend.

When we get to the point XSX games are taking 20-30 secs longer to load than PS5, then make a big deal out of loading.
Making a big deal out of 2 seconds isnt making you look any better Ethomaz, not that you care about that anyway.

 

[Snake29]

Yep, I expect the differences to become bigger in significant 3rd party games as time goes by. It will all be crystal clear by next Christmas. Love that MS waited for the whole RDNA2 feature set instead of rushing things just to gain a few meaningless early DF victories (if even that, it’s not that post-patches, ps5 has any victories).

That's funny, you guys were so sure it would outperform the PS5 from launch with a "large gap". Nothing happend and the XSX still has a lot of issues in comparisons with different games compared to the PS5. Even this analyses isn't showing that much of a difference. It's still using previous gen code these games are not build from the ground up for next-gen.

But now that the XSX didn't outperform the PS5, we need to wait again? waiting for tools and that so called magical "full RDNA2" what it will ever means lol. If your look at both specs on paper atm, then the XSX is showing worst performance over the PS5 in practice.

Keep playing that waiting game....

 

[ethomaz]

When we get to the point XSX games are taking 20-30 secs longer to load than PS5, then make a big deal out of loading.
Making a big deal out of 2 seconds isnt making you look any better Ethomaz, not that you care about that anyway.

The question is not the time lol
It is the comment.... the defense control.

I’m pretty much fine with the results and it is what you expected from the actual hardware specs between the machines.... the only issue is using PS4 Pro checkboard settling that is even questioned in the article.

 

[Bernd Lauert]

The most boring comparison ever still gets us a couple of meltdowns..

 

[Stuart360]

The question is not the time lol
It is the comment.... the defense control.

Well what do you want him to say?, 'WOW PS5 loading is 2 seconds faster than XSX, its def the version to get as we live ina time where people just dont have a lot of free time to spare!'

 

[Fulcizombie]

That's funny, you were so sure it would outperform the PS5 from launch with a "large gap". Nothing happend and the XSX still has a lot of issues in comparisons with different games compared to the PS5. Even this analyses isn't showing that much of a different. It's still using previous gen code these games are not build from the ground up for next-gen.

But now that the XSX didn't outperform the PS5, we need to wait again? waiting for tools and that so called magical "full RDNA2" what it will ever means lol.

Keep playing that waiting game....

We aren’t waiting anymore, big games are starting to show a huge difference in XSX favour (hitman 3, Avengers) and early games were already patched making the DF early comparisons void. Of course if you think that, for example, the differences in this game aren’t big then that I can actually respect and nothing will seem big to you.

 

[NullZ3r0]

Xbox Series:

• No checkerboarding and thus better image quality
• Better post-processing effects

Playstation 5:

• Slightly more stable framerates due to use of checkerboarding
• 2s faster loading times

Seems both systems are just running the previous gen code at higher resolutions and a faster framerate. Both sides can claim a "win".

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

For the foreseeable future every 3rd party game will be cross gen. The code is still native ps5/XSX code , this isn’t a BC patch.

Spin it anyway you want.
Cross generational programming is not the same as current generation programming.

 

[ethomaz]

Well what do you want him to say?, 'WOW PS5 loding is 2 seconds faster than XSX, its def the version to get as we live ina time where people just dont have a lot of free time to spare!'

The is biased for a professional lol
Why should I support that?

 

[Bernd Lauert]

Seems both systems are just running the previous gen code at higher resolutions and a faster framerate. Both sides can claim a "win".

And different settings...

 

[NullZ3r0]

dynamic res >> cb

PS5 is using DRS + CB.

 

[twilo99]

So confined again the CBR PS4 Pro
Sad.

Sad indeed.

What version is the X/S using? Zero chance they rewrote the code for xbox and not for PS, so the xbox must be using older code as well..

 

[Fulcizombie]

Spin it anyway you want.
Cross generational programming is not the same as current generation programming.

Spin what exactly ? You don’t even understand what you are talking about. These are new SKUs, these aren’t enhanced BC. This is exactly similar to, for example, resident evil 8.

 

[ethomaz]

Sad indeed.

What version is the X/S using? Zero chance they rewrote the code for xbox and not for PS, so the xbox must be using older code as well..

Xbox One X has 2160p DRS just like the Series versions.
It was not needed any change in code.... the better GPU will make the DRS less aggressive automatically.
Now the PS4 Pro CBR could had a bit of work to change to 2160p DRS.

But hey I’m the biased here that trashed CBR since Somy started to talk about it in 2016.

I did not like CBR in PS4 Pro at all.

 

[NullZ3r0]

They should've removed the CB, it isn't needed this gen.

This is just the PS4 code ported to PS5. They're not going to re-write the game.

 

[SLB1904]

Checkerboard Rendering is bad. TAAU or DLSS please.

What about spiderman CB?

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

Spin what exactly ? You don’t even understand what you are talking about. These are new SKUs, these aren’t enhanced BC. This is exactly similar to, for example, resident evil 8.

If they are/been available on the last gen the game isn't current gen.
Resident Evil 8 is cross gen and looks it..just like this game.

 

[Snake29]

We aren’t waiting anymore, big games are starting to show a huge difference in XSX favour (hitman 3, Avengers) and early games were already patched making the DF early comparisons void. Of course if you think that, for example, the differences in this game aren’t big then that I can actually respect and nothing will seem big to you.

If this is "huge" for you, while Hitman 3 didn't even looked as a huge difference if you also count that the XSX has a lot of microstutters and framedrops (not only that area). Graphics settings in Avangers are the same, but the PS4 Pro CB making it worst. It clearly looks like they didn't changed those resolution profiles for these patches. It wouldn't be different otherwise if they didn't used CB for the PS5.

But you can drop the word "huge" because if this is huge differences, then it looks really disappointing for the XSX. If the XSX was outperforming the PS5 with all those launch titles, you guys would let the whole world know that Phil Spencer was right and worship him all day long.

 

[Topher]

Well what do you want him to say?, 'WOW PS5 loding is 2 seconds faster than XSX, its def the version to get as we live ina time where people just dont have a lot of free time to spare!'

It really isn't worth mentioning, is it? Of course, neither is a couple of frames dropped here and there. And neither is a fraction of pixels missing. But you can't have it both ways, can you? Does it really make any sense to go nuts over a few pixels or frames but then dismiss a couple of seconds loading time? They are all equally irrelevant, aren't they?

The only thing about this entire video worth mention, in my mind, is that the PS5 performance mode is noticeably worse than XSX. That's a "win" for Xbox for those keeping score.

For everyone else....

 

[Stuart360]

The is biased for a professional lol
Why should I support that?

Alex is a hardcore PC gamer, and hates consoles. He never says that obviously, but you can tell with some of the stuff he says. Why would he be biased towards Xbox?. Maybe he just thought 2 seconds isnt a big deal, because it isnt.

 

[Fulcizombie]

If they are/been available on the last gen the game isn't current gen.
Resident Evil 8 is cross gen and looks it..just like this game.

So nothing will matter to you until 3rd parties abandon previous gen consoles. Have fun waiting.....

 

[VictorVectors]

this is by far the worst next gen patch i have ever seen. even the 4 tflops series s has native res.

shocking tbh. these devs are clueless. took them five months to get this thing out and they release this disaster.

1800p looks great! Why do they insist on blurring everything? There's no reason for this. Nixxes is usually extremely reliable too! This blurry 4K is obscene.

I was about to write about the scene at 4:50 but you beat me to it.

Series X looks way better. This checkerboarding is giving me nightmares... and blurry PS4 Pro Red Dead 2 vibes.

Sony NEEDS to find a better upscale solution than checkerboarding. It doesn't work.

 

[RobRSG]

Bathallia at best.

“A loading segment that took over a minute on PS4 Pro resolves in four seconds on PlayStation 5 rising to around six seconds on Series X. This is where the notion of percentage differences in performance is at odds with the actual experience - yes, Xbox Series consoles take 50 per cent longer to complete a load than PlayStation 5, but when the difference is just two seconds, the difference in the user experience is not especially noticeable.”

2 seconds more, or blurry graphics.

Pick your poison.

 

[Bernd Lauert]

 

[NullZ3r0]

I always find it hilarious how bad licensed games can be. The studio is handed on a silver platter the characters and villains. The licensor surely helps them out with digital assets. I dont think the game studio starts from scratch with nothing to go on.

So you'd think it should make life easier for the dev team since they got starting material to work with, yet it seems most licensed games are crap. This has been going on since Atari and NES.

SQENIX cheaped out on licensing the character likenesses and decided to just cash in on a hot franchise like the old days. The way they had these "influencers" gushing about the game told me it was all flash and no substance. Plus I have no idea how a looter game with established super heroes would work. Hulk's power is being Hulk, so how could you improve upon that without forcing it in a ridiculous way.

I already called it. This "upgrade" was nothing more than a spit-shine to reinvigorate shitty sales.

 

[Tickle My Tendies]

Numerous examples of XsX’s native resolution looking sharper than PS5’s checkerboarding are presented in the video. I would screen cap them all but this is the 4th thread for the game already and I’m feeling lazy.

Series wins this one.

PS5 loads in 4 seconds, Series in 6 seconds. That’s the one area where PS5 has the advantage.

 

[Epic Sax CEO]

The checkerboard fucks the HUD, what a shittyshow!

 

[ethomaz]

The checkerboard fucks the HUD, what a shittyshow!

The UI changes with the CBR just like PS4 Pro.

“ Owing to its checkerboard solution, PS5's UI scales with resolution too, which looks a touch odd.”

Something most devs avoid to do.

 

[turtlepowa]

PS5 loads in 4 seconds, Series in 6 seconds. That’s the one area where PS5 has the advantage.

Don't downplay this! That's a lot of time. I mean you can blink 3 times or yawn in 2 seconds!

 

[Warnen]

You should be thankful he even said it. Most sites probably wouldnt even mention a 2 second loading difference as its nothing.

hey all those 2 seconds add up, good to have an extra piss break in a year!

 

[Mister Wolf]

What about spiderman CB?

That isn't Checkerboard Rendering its TAAU.

 

[skit_data]

Just read that the PS5 version is 74 GB and the Series X is 107 GB. Can anyone confirm?

 

[sinnergy]

Bathallia at best.

“A loading segment that took over a minute on PS4 Pro resolves in four seconds on PlayStation 5 rising to around six seconds on Series X. This is where the notion of percentage differences in performance is at odds with the actual experience - yes, Xbox Series consoles take 50 per cent longer to complete a load than PlayStation 5, but when the difference is just two seconds, the difference in the user experience is not especially noticeable.”

A second per teraflop he is right, if it was 4 seconds verses 8 or 10 it would be another story .. but it isn’t , it’s negligible.

 

[pratyush]

Shocking upgrade on PS5. Hopefully they get what they deserve in terms of sale number

 

[sinnergy]

this is by far the worst next gen patch i have ever seen. even the 4 tflops series s has native res.

shocking tbh. these devs are clueless. took them five months to get this thing out and they release this disaster.

Says he about Nixxes .. go read up about them ...

 

[Fbh]

Its weird how resolution suddenly doesn’t matter anymore when xbox has that advantage? Strange, i would never accuse any site of platform bias or anything, but it seems weird

I mean....they are showing multiple instances of side by side comparisons where the game is displaying at a higher res on Ps5 but looking notoriously sharper and with better IQ on Series X.
They are showing you factual evidence that a game displaying at a higher res doesn't always translate to it looking better. How is that biased?.

 

[Warnen]

Don't downplay this! That's a lot of time. I mean you can blink 3 times or yawn in 2 seconds!

gonna be yawning a lot in this one so clearly Xbox has the advantage