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VG247: Xbox at E3 shows it finally has games, but is still struggling to match Sony in terms of wow factor.

DenchDeckard

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Not really read the body of the article, as I am at work but that title looks pretty on point IMO.

Ok, just glanced through. Seems absolutely on point imo.
 
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Zeroing

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Let me summarize this! For over a month we had people very very happy with studio acquisitions and then an avalanche of rumors and an avalanche of “opinions” about the future… how it would be amazing

Comes E3… none of the rumors were true, no new studios and nothing to make someone who’s not in the Xbox ecosystem wanting to jump, Sony is kinda in the same situation, they choose to jump E3 for a reason!

So the ones to blame are the “insiders” who everyone loves to hype whatever they write and the fanboys who spread those rumors.

a gamer who’s not always on top of the “news” or got carried away with the overhyped, expected a show that would be filled with wow moments.
 

ShirAhava

Plays with kids toys, in the adult gaming world
By 'wow factor' they must mean fanboy hype? Neither PS5 nor XBOX exclusive game lineups standout to me

You couldn't pay me to play god of bore (except on psp) or fucking marvel games

PS5 with games like neptunia and FF7 which are remakes of remakes lmao that system doesn't have one game that 'wow's' me

Shit like ratchet and returnal (re-core 2)would be rentals at best (which are being overhyped to hell right now)

And as far as XBOX they have the best racer (Forza 5) and flight sim of the generation also PSO if you are into that but other than that its bleh....halo looks bleh.....starfield and that generic red something game they showed at the end do nothing for me

I feel like anybody acting like PS5 or XBOX are so far in the lead right now is kinda crazy
 

jroc74

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"Premium Paaass"

No lies detected....and I liked the Xbox showcase. A couple of great looking games. But yeah...no wow factors. And still mostly CGI?

What was running on XSX and what was on PC?

The biggest thing about the showcase was...Game Pass day one.
 
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Spidey Fan

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You can't tell the difference between a gun and an axe?

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While your sarcasm is great, it seems you missed the point.

Uncharted and gow of war plays the same, different skin and weapons, but the gameplay is the same. I dont see any difference between them. Not something like gow vs returnal. Returnal you run for your life, while God of war, its all about swinging the axe.
 

Thirty7ven

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While your sarcasm is great, it seems you missed the point.

Uncharted and gow of war plays the same, different skin and weapons, but the gameplay is the same. I dont see any difference between them. Not something like gow vs returnal. Returnal you run for your life, while God of war, its all about swinging the axe.

The thing is that you are typing those words thinking there's any truth in them beyond what they say about you.
 
everything has to be a fucking war. sony are killing it, nintendo are killing it and microsoft have great games finally coming and a amazing subscription service. all 3 are different to eachother and unique. never have we had so many options and so much quality. why do some of ya'll gotta tether yourself to one console and than complain about the other one? if you can only have one, than enjoy what you got. otherwise you would try to get all systems if you truly love playing games.
 
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Eliciel

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FH5 was wow, Halo on the other hand was kind of "?". Yes it has shown multiplayer looking good - very good, but that's about it. The campaign trailer was not really doing anything for me.
For the other games, I am just not a Bethesda Fan to begin with...so much of the WOW-Effect is either way non-existent to me as I cannot relate to the style of games they create. I am more positive than before, but I am not really astonished by the quality of games I saw. FH5 was kind of a given as they have been industry leading in graphical fidelity and fun in driving games for a longer time now. Gran Turismo never did anything for me..

looking at the remaining content, not really something standing out for me as exceptional.
 
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Spidey Fan

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The thing is that you are typing those words thinking there's any truth in them beyond what they say about you.
Those are my opinions about their games. I dont speak for people.

I just want different type of stuff from them. But I am in the minority, since people speak with their wallet.
 

oldergamer

Member
I for the most part agree. Xbox had a decent show but this is them just a year or 2 after all of these acquisitions so they still have time for plenty of growth and polish. They still lacked the wow factor. They just need to better arrange the games to show decent trailers and gameplay. I almost think they should have skipped this E3 but instead done an xbox state of play like video for like 40 minutes just for the games coming out this year. Starfield and a couple of the other cg only games should have been left for next E3.

This is just us putting the xbox goal post of having a great E3 on the field since they are starting to actually have games.

No idea, Sony is staying mum on the issue. I really don't think they are going to release horizon, gt , and god of war in the same year.
No that is fair. I think they would launch all three in the same year if they could. However it seem GT and God of war are next year and horizon could still be this year.
 

Papacheeks

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Starfield
Stalker 2
FH5

And all on Gamepass day 1.

When I see people paying 70 bucks for multiplats that run better on Xbox and are free on Gamepass makes me go wow.

Some people have pc's. And outside of smaller third party like stalker 2 what big third party game was coming to gamepass day one?

Because it was a surprise that diablo 2 ressurected and BF2042 Were no gamepass day one.

That shows in my opinion a shift in spending. Or types of games they want to sign.

Bf2042 being free on gamepass would be a mic drop moment. Same with diablo 2 , but those games are way too expensive for 6 month exclusivity to be free on gamepass.
 
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NahaNago

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No that is fair. I think they would launch all three in the same year if they could. However it seem GT and God of war are next year and horizon could still be this year.
Sony is at such an odd place right now. They don't really need to put out horizon this year since all of the ps5 consoles they have will sell out. But they could be waiting on what moves Microsoft will make with halo later this year.

I'm wondering if gt and god of war was always suppose to release next year and if not what was suppose to?
 

acm2000

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MS has all these newly acquired studios, but all were making multi platform titles before this, and mostly cross gen too.

Xbox wont start to see truly next gen first party stuff from them till mid generation at the earliest, MS is in this for the long game.
 

Thirty7ven

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Sony is at such an odd place right now. They don't really need to put out horizon this year since all of the ps5 consoles they have will sell out. But they could be waiting on what moves Microsoft will make with halo later this year.

I'm wondering if gt and god of war was always suppose to release next year and if not what was suppose to?

The only thing MS is doing that Sony is keeping a close eye on is Gamepass. That's it, if you think Horizon releasing this or next year depends on what MS is doing with Halo, you are out of your mind.
 
Sony is at such an odd place right now. They don't really need to put out horizon this year since all of the ps5 consoles they have will sell out. But they could be waiting on what moves Microsoft will make with halo later this year.

I'm wondering if gt and god of war was always suppose to release next year and if not what was suppose to?

If GT7 and GoW manage to release in the first half of 2022 then they were definitley planned for this year barring covid
 

kikii

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While your sarcasm is great, it seems you missed the point.

Uncharted and gow of war plays the same, different skin and weapons, but the gameplay is the same. I dont see any difference between them. Not something like gow vs returnal. Returnal you run for your life, while God of war, its all about swinging the axe.
in all Halos and other gunners u press LT for aim and RT for pewpew, gameplay is same just different skins, same goes for FH5 and other racing games LT break RT vrooom :p
 

Spidey Fan

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Those aren't opinions, you're just trolling. The sky and the sea are the same, what's the difference between them? They are both blue, like.
The game is linear. Heavily depend on the story. Both God of war and uncharted 1 have the same stylishly.

I am not looking down on them. I dont see games that much god of war on xbox. And I am not fan of their halo. And as for for their forza horizon, it isn't as fun as need for speed games.
 

KAL2006

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Forza was the wow factor.

Sony had a ton of wow factors
Last of Us 2 Gameplay demonstration
Demons Souls demonstation
Ghost of Tsushima demonstration
Horizon Forbidden West gameplay demonstration

You get the just of it to have a wow factor you need a gameplay demonstration of a game with great visuals that blows you away. Forza was exactly that. But it's a shame it's always just Forza. Starfield is 2 years out and was a cutscene. Where is Hellblade gameplay it was revealed in 2019. Where is a new Halo campaign gameplay to make up for the disappointment last year. Why did they reveal Everwild if they don't know what the game is yet. People just need to see the games speak for themselves it's ironic that Outer Worlds 2 trailer was a paradox of CGbajd title reveals but to have a parody when Microsoft are the biggest offenders of this is strange. It's hard to get excited about future games without seeinguch of them what if Starfield has that crappy modified Gamebryo engine and is a small step up like Fallout 4. What if Halo campaign still looks bad. Microsoft need to prove to us this isn't the case. The reason people don't trust Microsoft is because they promised alot before with Fable Legends, Phantom Dust, Scalebound and etc. Not that I believe this is the case now as it seems they are way more invested into gaming now it's just we need to see the proof now that they have games that will blow us away.
 

BootsLoader

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This thread is what I was waiting for 😂😛
Of course they are still struggling with the wow factor. Sony I very very well established. You can’t just throw money at studios and expect to win. There must be a steady output of AAA games that are serious goty contenders which Microsoft really lacks at the moment even after their solid conference.
 

NahaNago

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The only thing MS is doing that Sony is keeping a close eye on is Gamepass. That's it, if you think Horizon releasing this or next year depends on what MS is doing with Halo, you are out of your mind.
They need more action and less watching when it comes to gamepass. Sony has been needing to dramatically expand for a long time. Halo is still a heavy hitter, kinda so It's possible when it comes to Horizon that halo could affects its release date. I really don't think they would release horizon in November with Halo. Maybe they would release it in December.
If GT7 and GoW manage to release in the first half of 2022 then they were definitley planned for this year barring covid
I always doubted that GoW was coming out this year. They were never going to release 5 AAA games in one year. Even if they were ready for the most part they would have held the game back.

Then again the original plan was to quickly push ps4 owners to buy the ps5...
 

Spidey Fan

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Why don't you try explaining why you think GoW and Uncharted are the same instead of doubling down on your drive by shit posting
Same linear set up. More of same climbing. God of war has the edge on the bosses though. I liked the stranger fight.

As a casual gamer though, both games looks the same for me though. Might be different for you.
 

Topher

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Same linear set up. More of same climbing. God of war has the edge on the bosses though. I liked the stranger fight.

As a casual gamer though, both games looks the same for me though. Might be different for you.

Which God of War game are you talking about?
 

Zeroing

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This thread is what I was waiting for 😂😛
Of course they are still struggling with the wow factor. Sony I very very well established. You can’t just throw money at studios and expect to win. There must be a steady output of AAA games that are serious goty contenders which Microsoft really lacks at the moment even after their solid conference.
I agree, And that takes time… and not just 1 hit wonders…or short trailers.
MS need to be consistent every year to change their own imposed narrative - but of course everyone expected things to change overnight and are angry at an article :)
 

Spidey Fan

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in all Halos and other gunners u press LT for aim and RT for pewpew, gameplay is same just different skins, same goes for FH5 and other racing games LT break RT vrooom :p
I dont like both franchise sadly. I am more of interested in sony and bethesda games currently. Just pointing out my frustration on them.

My 2 favorite series are dead as of now (mgs, and splinter cell).
 

BootsLoader

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I agree, And that takes time… and not just 1 hit wonders…or short trailers.
MS need to be consistent every year to change their own imposed narrative - but of course everyone expected things to change overnight and are angry at an article :)
A very well written reply. Thank you.
 

Banjo64

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in all Halos and other gunners u press LT for aim and RT for pewpew, gameplay is same just different skins, same goes for FH5 and other racing games LT break RT vrooom :p
Most guns in Halo don’t have aim down the sights so no, you don’t use LT.
 

Thirty7ven

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They need more action and less watching when it comes to gamepass. Sony has been needing to dramatically expand for a long time. Halo is still a heavy hitter, kinda so It's possible when it comes to Horizon that halo could affects its release date. I really don't think they would release horizon in November with Halo. Maybe they would release it in December.

It just doesn't make any sense, because Halo is not on Playstation, and Horizon Zero Dawn sold more than the last Halo. So if we combine the factors it's easy to conclude that there's no association there.

Sony doesn't tend to release games in November, because October - November - December are usually very busy with really big 3rd party games dropping. There's no need for them to compete with big 3rd parties head on.

Gamepass will help Halo have more people jumping in and the online is F2P, but it will be competing with big dogs for mindshare, so it better be real good if it's releasing in November.
 
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Same linear set up. More of same climbing. God of war has the edge on the bosses though. I liked the stranger fight.

As a casual gamer though, both games looks the same for me though. Might be different for you.

Lmao okay so how does Spiderman fit in?

I'm pretty sure even casual gamers can tell the difference between the open world spiderman and and hack and slash god of war

They're casuals, not idiots
 
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