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Madden NFL 22 on PC will be based on the old-gen version

KyoZz

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EA has just announced the latest part in its Maden NFL series, Madden NFL 22, will be based on the old-gen console version for PC.

What this means is that the PC version will not have the gameplay features that will be present in Madden NFL 22 Next-Gen.
These features are Dynamic Gameday, Gameday Atmosphere, Gameday Momentum, Next Gen Stats Star-Driven AI, Home Field Advantage, and Star-Driven AI.
Furthermore, its graphics will not be as good as what PS5 and Xbox Series X owners will be getting.

As the official press release of Madden NFL 22 reads:
"Dynamic Gameday, Gameday Atmosphere, Gameday Momentum, Next Gen Stats Star-Driven AI, Home Field Advantage, Star-Driven AI are only available on PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X|S."

In November 2020, EA claimed that FIFA 21 was old-gen on PC because EA did not want to raise its PC system requirements.

 

KyoZz

Tag, you're it.
do people even play this on PC?
Yes
Pcpr- pc peasant race. They also did it for fifa because the average pc is running a 1050 or 1060
Make no excuse for laziness, especially from million dollar studios like EA.
Also, their engine has a big scalability and settings exist on PC (low, medium, high etc...) so yeah, just lazy EA at it again.
 

anthony2690

Banned
Curious what the reason for this would be?

Older version more accessible/scalable or something for the wide range of pcs?

Or just not worth the effort on pc? Are sports games popular on pc?

I know fifa is literally one of the most played games on Xbox and PlayStation.

Seems odd, hopefully they clarify, as I could fully understand why pc players would be unhappy about this.
 
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HTK

Banned
They probably need more time to start releasing across all platforms with cross-play. This year it appears they are not ready yet.

Any word on cross-play between PlayStation and Xbox?
 

Guilty_AI

Member
Curious what the reason for this would be?

Older version more accessible/scalable or something for the wide range of pcs?

Or just not worth the effort on pc? Are sports games popular on pc?

I know fifa is literally one of the most played games on Xbox and PlayStation.

Seems odd, hopefully they clarify, as I could fully understand why pc players would be unhappy about this.
They claim its to be able to support a wider range of PCs. The genre doesn't seem to popular on the platform either, so i guess they just decided to be lazy about it. Just EA being EA.
 
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KyoZz

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Dunno, always felt these types of sport games (apart from management ones) were more popular among console players.
Previous one doesn't seem to be all that popular on Steam either.
Yeah you right the player base is maybe 85% consoles players, but still it's no excuse to snob us like that.
It's always the same with EA, they are just too lazy to care for now. We are supposed to pay the same price but without the possibility of playing the next gen version with all the improvements.
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
Dunno, always felt these types of sport games (apart from management ones) were more popular among console players.
Previous one doesn't seem to be all that popular on Steam either.
Ya. PC used to get tons of sports. EA used to release all their sports games on PC, but at some point cut the cord o most franchises.

I think another reason they did this is because of rampant modding. Give PC gamers EA sports games and they'll milk a version for years updating stats, players and rosters themselves.

Leave sports games heavily skewed to consoles and they'll buy the new version every year.
 

ClosBSAS

Member
well, its not like madden is very popular on the PC...so waste of resources. they gonna pull the switch legacy bs on pc...same shit only thinig that changes is the number from 20 to 21.
 

SomeGit

Member
Pcpr- pc peasant race. They also did it for fifa because the average pc is running a 1050 or 1060
The target for sports games is most likely laptop users so stuff like MX150s but even worse than that mobile CPUs while even the XSS has an 8 core zen2, when FIFA switched engines for FIFA 15 you noticed a sharp drop in users because the requirements when from any decent core 2 duo to a minimum sandy bridge i5, while FIFA 14 still had a lot of users.
 
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Guilty_AI

Member
I think another reason they did this is because of rampant modding. Give PC gamers EA sports games and they'll milk a version for years updating stats, players and rosters themselves.

Leave sports games heavily skewed to consoles and they'll buy the new version every year.
Probably a good point. They most likely can only cater to a specific dedicated playerbase (that most likely uses low-end PCs), at least i know i personally would never, ever play an EA sports title anymore.
 
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DGrayson

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Just a guess but I doubt it's the fact that a lot of pc players are using 1060s. That's what graphical options are for.

If I had to guess I would say it is their fear that by putting the best version on PC modders would get to it and eventually make a better version with updated rosters and private servers and people wouldn't bother upgrading next version.
 

Andodalf

Banned
Just a guess but I doubt it's the fact that a lot of pc players are using 1060s. That's what graphical options are for.

If I had to guess I would say it is their fear that by putting the best version on PC modders would get to it and eventually make a better version with updated rosters and private servers and people wouldn't bother upgrading next version.

Yeah they clearly have some motive, in some ways this could even be more work for them
 
Well, PC gamers talk like most gaming PCs run circles around consoles, but the truth is the majority of them are inferior to current-gen consoles.

Yes, they CAN be built more powerful, but the cost to do so usually isn't worth the cost.
 

Phase

Member
I wish everyone would stop supporting yearly sport releases. I haven't since 2010 and if you really want to play you can just download roster updates, since that's all these companies are doing these days anyway.
 

MoreJRPG

Suffers from extreme PDS
Is it because they know the PC crowd wont be scammed for the price hike that they’re doing for console? BF2042 runs better on PC yet will be $10 cheaper.
 
There are less PC participants at the EA NFL Casino than on consoles.

On consoles players will:
  1. Unlock features that were already available in previous games.
  2. Spend thousands $$$$$$ on valueless digital trading cards.
  3. Customer mize your character with up to 3 faces and 4 skin tones.
  4. Pay to win.
  5. Spin the wheel of lootbox to see if you can get valueless currency, cards, or cosmetic drops
  6. Spend real money betting on outcomes to win valueless currency.
  7. $109 ultimate teams pack with over 2 players.
  8. Beat challenges to get tokens to spin the slot machine.
  9. Slow motion mode for replays with $50 extension pack.
  10. Subscription for future random drops.
  11. Be able to choose your position on the field because Madden is now an Arcade football game. And Casino.
  12. Get rare holographic drops that you can only use in this version of madden as well as the cosmetics.

At EA Casino and stupidorium, everyone who's a sucker diverse and brainless competitive is welcome!
 

Stuart360

Member
Just a guess but I doubt it's the fact that a lot of pc players are using 1060s. That's what graphical options are for.

If I had to guess I would say it is their fear that by putting the best version on PC modders would get to it and eventually make a better version with updated rosters and private servers and people wouldn't bother upgrading next version.
Unfortunately EA has done this many times over the last 20 years or so, and thats if they can even be bothered to even release PC versipns of their sports games at all. Fact is the Fifa's and Maddens just dont sell as well as the blockbusters they are on console.. Konami did the same last gen with PES, and it took a boycott of Pes2016 i think it was, for Konami to actually port the XB1/PS4 version to PC for the next year.

People will make silly console war stuff, like has already happened in this thread, but it is pure laziness, and not wanting to take the time and money to port the game, add graphics options, etc.
When EA did start porting the XB1 and PS4 versions of Fifa (and the same with Konami with PES), even patato PC's could run them. My aging 980ti could 4k/60 both Fifa and Pes, while XB1/PS4 were stuck on 1080p.

Its laziness, simple as that.
 
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EDMIX

Member
This is why I tell people its not about the hardware with PC.

Whats going on with support? Who the fuck cares if this is the type of shit that goes on? Those days of great PC support are long over and those golden years are behind us. I remember when back in the day a whole slew of AAA exclusive quality games used to be out, now the majority are questionable ports and any game made for PC first and foremost have become very rare.
 

Stuart360

Member
This is why I tell people its not about the hardware with PC.

Whats going on with support? Who the fuck cares if this is the type of shit that goes on? Those days of great PC support are long over and those golden years are behind us. I remember when back in the day a whole slew of AAA exclusive quality games used to be out, now the majority are questionable ports and any game made for PC first and foremost have become very rare.
There are more games released on PC than all the console put together. Hell there are 50+ released on Steam daily, sure they are mostly Indie or Shovelwear, but not everyone is agaisnt Indies.
The problem is no one 'owns' PC, like with console, so their is no company bankrolling PC exclusives. If AAA development wasnt so expensive, we would still get the Quakes, Half Life 2's, etc.
PC still gets every multiplatform game, every Xbox game, and now some Playstation games, and if you have the hardware, you get the best versions.
 
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It's crazy how they keep doing it. First fifa, now this.

Some random PC owner buys this so called 'next gen' version in a year worrying how it will run on his 3 year old GPU and when he sees 300+ fps his face goes in surprised pikachu mode. And of course he never trusts EA ever again.
 

lefty1117

Gold Member
NBA 2k21 did the same thing, it was a travesty that they attempted to sell the Mamba edition based on last year's game while consoles got the next gen version. Fuck these companies that do this, I'll be skipping this year.
 

BennyBlanco

aka IMurRIVAL69
Well, PC gamers talk like most gaming PCs run circles around consoles, but the truth is the majority of them are inferior to current-gen consoles.

Yes, they CAN be built more powerful, but the cost to do so usually isn't worth the cost.
*laughs in 3080*

NBA 2k21 did the same thing, it was a travesty that they attempted to sell the Mamba edition based on last year's game while consoles got the next gen version. Fuck these companies that do this, I'll be skipping this year.
Can confirm for you that the ps5 version of nba2k21 also sucks
 
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EDMIX

Member
sure they are mostly Indie or Shovelwear

Yea....that is my point.

The problem is no one 'owns' PC, like with console, so their is no company bankrolling PC exclusives

Bingo. The cost of development is so high, its literally not worth the money to go to such an install base with so many different configs when they can just go on console and have 100% of the same set up per console maker.

PC still gets every multiplatform game, every Xbox game, and now some Playstation games, and if you have the hardware, you get the best versions.

Oh trust, I don't disagree. Simply that is what PC is now left with today vs yesteryear. PC still got those generations prior, Sony literally used to have a team of studios for PC (SOE), so we are still getting less of what we used to get from PC as NOW all of PC is just that vs when it used to be Sony, MS and all 3rd parties on top of those AAA PC exclusives.

So I'd say those days are over and maybe I'm just nostalgic of those days (or maybe yo boy really need that PC build justified) lol

BennyBlanco BennyBlanco lol I mean, they are not wrong though. The majority simply don't own high end machines. Modular set up is a double edge sword. You can build a beast PC, but the next man having a Fortnite set up with a garbage PC makes up the majority of the install base, thus.....less AAA PC exclusives (if any).

The publisher doesn't give a shit if you own a "PC", they care if you own a PC powerful enough for them to focus a AAA title on that hardware set up. Sadly, those days are over.
 
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Stuart360

Member
Yea....that is my point.



Bingo. The cost of development is so high, its literally not worth the money to go to such an install base with so many different configs when they can just go on console and have 100% of the same set up per console maker.



Oh trust, I don't disagree. Simply that is what PC is now left with today vs yesteryear. PC still got those generations prior, Sony literally used to have a team of studios for PC (SOE), so we are still getting less of what we used to get from PC as NOW all of PC is just that vs when it used to be Sony, MS and all 3rd parties on top of those AAA PC exclusives.

So I'd say those days are over and maybe I'm just nostalgic of those days (or maybe yo boy really need that PC build justified) lol

BennyBlanco BennyBlanco lol I mean, they are not wrong though. The majority simply don't own high end machines. Modular set up is a double edge sword. You can build a beast PC, but the next man having a Fortnite set up with a garbage PC makes up the majority of the install base, thus.....less AAA PC exclusives (if any).

The publisher doesn't give a shit if you own a "PC", they care if you own a PC powerful enough for them to focus a AAA title on that hardware set up. Sadly, those days are over.
Nah its always the sports games, and they always end up being piss easy to run on patato PC's when the laziness goes away and they decide to release the current gen versions of said games.

It doesnt happen with any other games, PC still gets them at the start of a new console gen, and being able to change resolution and settings means you can run 'next gen' games on waaay lower specs than on XSX/PS5 (as i'm doing myself, well lower gpu anyway)..

If this was anyhting to do with PC hardware, it would be happening with much more demanding games than Fifa ,NHL, and PES, etc.

Its pure laziness mixed in with the fact that sports games dont sell as well as they do on consoles.

EDIT. I miss those days too bud, i miss them too, but atleast we still get all the multiplatform games, Xbox and some Playstation games, and our fair share of exclusive Inide and AA games.
 
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BennyBlanco

aka IMurRIVAL69
Bingo. The cost of development is so high, its literally not worth the money to go to such an install base with so many different configs when they can just go on console and have 100% of the same set up per console maker.



Oh trust, I don't disagree. Simply that is what PC is now left with today vs yesteryear. PC still got those generations prior, Sony literally used to have a team of studios for PC (SOE), so we are still getting less of what we used to get from PC as NOW all of PC is just that vs when it used to be Sony, MS and all 3rd parties on top of those AAA PC exclusives.

So I'd say those days are over and maybe I'm just nostalgic of those days (or maybe yo boy really need that PC build justified) lol

BennyBlanco BennyBlanco lol I mean, they are not wrong though. The majority simply don't own high end machines. Modular set up is a double edge sword. You can build a beast PC, but the next man having a Fortnite set up with a garbage PC makes up the majority of the install base, thus.....less AAA PC exclusives (if any).

The publisher doesn't give a shit if you own a "PC", they care if you own a PC powerful enough for them to focus a AAA title on that hardware set up. Sadly, those days are over.


why would I ever care if the games I play are exclusive to PC? Only a certified weirdo like many who post on neogaf.com would play horizon and be mad that it came out on PC too.


i will play forza horizon 5 this year in beautiful 4k and the fact that people are also playing it on Xbox will not even cross my mind.
 
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TheGrat1

Member
Thank you for reminding me for the SECOND time today that EA has exclusive rights to the NFL. :pie_tired: If there was one realistic video game wish I could grant it would be that we could get NFL 2K and NFL Gameday back. Hell, bring back Fever while you are at it. The more competition the better.
 

EDMIX

Member
why would I ever care if the games I play are exclusive to PC? Only a certified weirdo like many who post on neogaf.com would play horizon and be mad that it came out on PC too.


i will play forza horizon 5 this year in beautiful 4k and the fact that people are also playing it on Xbox will not even cross my mind.
? Because I personally would like to know that somebody has designed a game that takes Max capability of the PC Hardware to create a very unique experience.

My comment has nothing to do with trying to exclude anyone as much as it has to do with wanting the hardware to be utilized to create exclusive and unique experience that could only be created using the best hardware.

I don't know where you got that I was mad at somebody else playing something or anything weird like that you literally fucking made that up on your own bud....

No where even remotely does my comment argue I'm angry someone else gets to play a game or something.

So this whole "why would I", yea that is a question for you bud, YOU wouldn't care about that and thats fine, it doesn't mean I care to purposely exclude and that is the only fucking reason I'm saying that. Back in the day we used to always get AAA games pushing the envelope that could only exist on PC, now....we get publishers doing shit like this.

Funny enough, EA used to be one of those publishers that had no issue bankrolling a game exclusive to PC that pushed those boundaries, now? They could give too shits, look at the thread you are on...look at how they are treating a mere port to PC, so it matters more then you realize when folks use shit hardware and developer see that install base in tiny as shit with beefy hardware to even care to properly port, let alone a AAA exclusive that is made to really take use of hardware that only exist on PC.

They'd rather nerf it and use the lowest console settings to move more units. So when I say exclusive, I mean made on the hardware cause it CAN'T FUCKING EXIST ELSE WHERE based on how its being made, I don't mean it in a way to purposely exclude as if that is the only thing i want or something. That is an argument you made.

theclaw135 theclaw135 Agreed 1000%
 
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Ozzie666

Member
No surprising, EA did this for years with NHL particularly. Always the old version with minor tweaks, never the new console next generation releases. I don't know if they continued to do with other titles.

EA's response will be: gamers should be happy to have MADDEN at all on PC. Because it wasn't there for years. Also this is probably going to be the Switch version ..
 

Grechy34

Member
Yes

Make no excuse for laziness, especially from million dollar studios like EA.
Also, their engine has a big scalability and settings exist on PC (low, medium, high etc...) so yeah, just lazy EA at it again.

Yeah look not pissed about this because I never play sports games on PC but there must be a financial incentive for EA to go down this route.
 

LordCBH

Member
Fuck off EA, you lazy ass cunts. You rake in metric fuck loads of money from fucking ultimate team and can’t even be assed enough to do a proper port job.
 
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sol_bad

Member
Curious what the reason for this would be?

Older version more accessible/scalable or something for the wide range of pcs?

Or just not worth the effort on pc? Are sports games popular on pc?

I know fifa is literally one of the most played games on Xbox and PlayStation.

Seems odd, hopefully they clarify, as I could fully understand why pc players would be unhappy about this.

Please don't give them excuses. EA quite simply just too lazy to do it. It's a 4 billion dollar franchise, they make more than enough money to do the PC version properly.
 

anthony2690

Banned
Please don't give them excuses. EA quite simply just too lazy to do it. It's a 4 billion dollar franchise, they make more than enough money to do the PC version properly.
Sorry if it came across as excuses I know I probably wouldn't get answers unless they have stated as I doubt anyone here works at ea or made the decison.
Sucks for those that enjoy the games on pc regardless.
 
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