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DOOM Eternal - Official Update 6 Launch and Series X Trailer

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DOOM Eternal's free next-gen upgrade is available now. Update 6 optimizes DOOM Eternal for Xbox Series X/S and PlayStation 5 systems, adding improved visuals, increased performance and support for ray-tracing and 4K resolution at 60 frames per second. Update 6 also features a new Master Level to test your skills, a new battlemode arena, and more. Check out the trailer for a look at what to expect.
 

ZywyPL

Banned
A metric for how a sequel should be done.

Doom 2016>Eternal. The gameplay loop in sequel feels forced, you have to play the game the certain way the developer wants you to play, or else it's not fun at all, you constantly run out of ammo and so on. Also the prequel with it's gritty setting/visuals is more appealing for me personally, with all the vibrant colors Eternal has lost that kind of charm. I wish the 2016 game would also receive such next-gen treatment, because yeah, the updated visuals and the performance are industry's finest, but other than that Doom 2016 is IMO still the better of the two.
 
Doom 2016>Eternal. The gameplay loop in sequel feels forced, you have to play the game the certain way the developer wants you to play, or else it's not fun at all, you constantly run out of ammo and so on. Also the prequel with it's gritty setting/visuals is more appealing for me personally, with all the vibrant colors Eternal has lost that kind of charm. I wish the 2016 game would also receive such next-gen treatment, because yeah, the updated visuals and the performance are industry's finest, but other than that Doom 2016 is IMO still the better of the two.
Absolutely fucking no , I recently played 2016 again and it feels so dated compared to eternal
On higher difficulties eternal is sublime , when u get into the rythm of how to deal with each monster the game is so so much better than doom 2016
 

ZywyPL

Banned
Absolutely fucking no , I recently played 2016 again and it feels so dated compared to eternal
On higher difficulties eternal is sublime , when u get into the rythm of how to deal with each monster the game is so so much better than doom 2016

To each their own I guess, I simply don't like the platforming elements they've added, I always love the grounded type of running and gunning. Also those dark tight corridors is what Doom was always about, Eternal with it's open, castle-like settings is not my cup of tea, it actually reminds me more of the original Unreal than Doom if i'm honest.
 

Bramble

Member
Doom 2016>Eternal. The gameplay loop in sequel feels forced, you have to play the game the certain way the developer wants you to play, or else it's not fun at all, you constantly run out of ammo and so on. Also the prequel with it's gritty setting/visuals is more appealing for me personally, with all the vibrant colors Eternal has lost that kind of charm. I wish the 2016 game would also receive such next-gen treatment, because yeah, the updated visuals and the performance are industry's finest, but other than that Doom 2016 is IMO still the better of the two.

DOOM 3 > 2016 + Eternal

IMO DOOM should be dark and gritty and mysterious. Not the colorful rainbow platformer we got now, with added gore.
 

bender

What time is it?
DOOM 3 > 2016 + Eternal

IMO DOOM should be dark and gritty and mysterious. Not the colorful rainbow platformer we got now, with added gore.

I'm pretty lukewarm on 2016 and Eternal but Doom 3 is the only Doom that I think is bad. Once you get past the horror atmosphere, there just anything redeemable about the game.
 

ZywyPL

Banned
I'm pretty lukewarm on 2016 and Eternal but Doom 3 is the only Doom that I think is bad. Once you get past the horror atmosphere, there just anything redeemable about the game.

Yeah, while Doom 3 had it's charm, and was a technical masterpiece at the time, it fell more into the horror genre rather than a proper shooter. Gameplay-wise Quake 4 was sooo much better and more satisfying, I could go through the campaign over and over again because of how satisfying the shooting was.
 

Leyasu

Banned
I couldn’t get into doom 2016, but I have really enjoyed eternal so far. I am glad that I waited for the update to start
 

Kev Kev

Member
A metric for how a sequel should be done.
to completely change the core gameplay and alienate the fans of the originals and 2016? no. weak spots? staggering? constantly running out of ammo? constantly doing glory kills? constantly having to chainsaw? overdone platforming and jumping? this is barely a sequel, its a whole new game, made for monster'd out teens and fans of twitch arena shooters. they completely gutted the formula. this is not how you make a sequel. it's how you alienate a large portion of your fanbase.

doom is one of my favorite games ever, hell it was my first game ever! doom 2016 was amazing and so promising for the future. then eternal came out and i dont know what the hell that monstrosity is, but its not doom.
 
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highrider

Banned
Doom Eternal blows. The gameplay loop isn’t fun, constantly chainsawing for ammo is fucking stupid, everything needs specific and repetitive attacks and nothing interacts with you in an entertaining way. And the icing on the cake, shitty platforming in a fucking Doom game. I can’t believe the same people made this as 2016, it’s an atrocious game in every way barring the technical execution of it which is still great. I beat Eternal just barely it was like mowing a lawn for me in terms of entertaining.
 

Bramble

Member
I'm pretty lukewarm on 2016 and Eternal but Doom 3 is the only Doom that I think is bad. Once you get past the horror atmosphere, there just anything redeemable about the game.

They're all okay games I guess. None of them really blew me away. They don't feel like mature games to me, and I would like to see that more with DOOM. I don't like this direction. I'm mean DOOM guy getting inside a fucking cannon and launching himself. It cartoony.
 

SnapShot

Member
Eternal is superior to 2016 in every possible way, way more engaging combat, much more varied locations, it's only downside is the nonsensical plot, it's funny how everyone was complaining about how you could beat 2016 using only 1 weapon and how the monsters don't look like Doom monsters at all yet somehow Doom Eternal is now worse because it tried to rectify those problems, those ranting about how Eternal is inferior because it's not a copycat of an older game, take this and go lie down.

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Nikana

Go Go Neo Rangers!
to completely change the core gameplay and alienate the fans of the originals and 2016? no. weak spots? staggering? constantly running out of ammo? constantly doing glory kills? constantly having to chainsaw? overdone platforming and jumping? this is barely a sequel, its a whole new game, made for monster'd out teens and fans of twitch arena shooters. they completely gutted the formula. this is not how you make a sequel. it's how you alienate a large portion of your fanbase.

doom is one of my favorite games ever, hell it was my first game ever! doom 2016 was amazing and so promising for the future. then eternal came out and i dont know what the hell that monstrosity is, but its not doom.
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Spukc

always chasing the next thrill
Eternal is superior to 2016 in every possible way, way more engaging combat, much more varied locations, it's only downside is the nonsensical plot, it's funny how everyone was complaining about how you could beat 2016 using only 1 weapon and how the monsters don't look like Doom monsters at all and somehow Doom Eternal is now worse because it tried to rectify those problems, those ranting about how Eternal is inferior because it's not a copycat of an older game, take this and go lie down.

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TrueLegend

Member
Doom 2016 is the shit.

Eternal is weak as fuck.
Ammo management simulator 2020.

doom is a powerfantasy.
Not some weak ass low ammo bitch with a halo armor

to completely change the core gameplay and alienate the fans of the originals and 2016? no. weak spots? staggering? constantly running out of ammo? constantly doing glory kills? constantly having to chainsaw? overdone platforming and jumping? this is barely a sequel, its a whole new game, made for monster'd out teens and fans of twitch arena shooters. they completely gutted the formula. this is not how you make a sequel. it's how you alienate a large portion of your fanbase.

doom is one of my favorite games ever, hell it was my first game ever! doom 2016 was amazing and so promising for the future. then eternal came out and i dont know what the hell that monstrosity is, but its not doom.

Doom Eternal blows. The gameplay loop isn’t fun, constantly chainsawing for ammo is fucking stupid, everything needs specific and repetitive attacks and nothing interacts with you in an entertaining way. And the icing on the cake, shitty platforming in a fucking Doom game. I can’t believe the same people made this as 2016, it’s an atrocious game in every way barring the technical execution of it which is still great. I beat Eternal just barely it was like mowing a lawn for me in terms of entertaining.
Boy have I have never seen so many weak players in one place. So you sucked at the game and it didn't handheld you to be a badass....that's what makes it better. It's not a noob fantasy, it's a veteran's paradise. My god, what a filthy casual talk, saying Doom eternal is inferior.
 
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Doom eternal is a masterpiece the ancient gods are like darksouls lvl of difficult
on harder difficulties , but once u figure out everything how to deal with each demon it's sublime best combat in any game period
 

Kev Kev

Member
Boy have I have never seen so many weak players in one place. So you sucked at the game and it didn't handheld you to be a badass....that's what makes it better. It's not a noob fantasy, it's a veteran's paradise. My god, what a filthy casual talk, saying Doom eternal is inferior.
lol thats the only argument you guys have is "get good"

the game sucks, despite whether youre good at it or not
 

Spukc

always chasing the next thrill
Boy have I have never seen so many weak players in one place. So you sucked at the game and it didn't handheld you to be a badass....that's what makes it better. It's not a noob fantasy, it's a veteran's paradise. My god, what a filthy casual talk, saying Doom eternal is inferior.
the game is not fucking doom netnanny
 

Kev Kev

Member
and saying "get good" isnt?

i genuinely think the game is flawed bc its too difficult and frantic for its own good, and the only thing you fucks have to say back is "get good". and im the one who is baiting? lol what the fuck ever

doom lost lots of long time fans on this one. me included, and its a damn shame
 
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Kev Kev

Member
Maybe, but that doesn't change the fact it's bait what you've posted.
i edited my post but in case you didnt see it... no, im not baiting. i genuinely think the game is flawed. "get good" is always low tier drive by shit troll posting and bait, its never good for discussion. but if thats the only argument you guys have then i guess we are done here
 
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Kev Kev

Member
The 'last' proper Doom game...

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dude fuck yes!

i just started playing this game for the first time a couple weeks ago and its amazing! its like OG doom, i fucking love it. although i disagree bc i loved doom 2016. but honestly, doom 64 is better than 2016.... so were kind on the same page...?

but yeah man put on some doom 64 and slayer or cannibal corpse and that is a genuinely great doom experience. eternal isnt doom and it never will be. they need to go back to their roots.
 
I played the first hour or so again on PS5 this morning. My complaints with the game still stand (was hoping maybe that going back to it might alleviate some of it). The Ray Tracing was underwhelming coming from something like R&C though there is areas later in the campaign that would show off better.

A metric for how a sequel should be done.
Doom 2016 was better. Fuck first person platforming.
Boy have I have never seen so many weak players in one place. So you sucked at the game and it didn't handheld you to be a badass....that's what makes it better. It's not a noob fantasy, it's a veteran's paradise. My god, what a filthy casual talk, saying Doom eternal is inferior.
The fact that you used weak, noob, veteran, and casual tells me everything I need to know.
 

MiguelItUp

Member
I loved Eternal, had a great time with it TBH, but I don't really care to jump into it anymore, even with RTX effects and some new additions.

As a DOOM whore, it's kind of hard for me to not love anything with the name DOOM attached to it, even if this one was a pretty bold step in terms of things people wanted or expected. At first things felt weird, but by the end of it they felt great, and I appreciated everything in it for what it was. A DOOM game for the modern market, that wanted to do new things with the IP while maintaining the chaos that made DOOM, well, DOOM.

My biggest concern with it was Battlemode. I firmly believe if they just did traditional FPS multiplayer it would've lasted longer. Or if they added that as well. I mean, the 2016 multiplayer was fine for what it was, I actually played quite a bit of it. But man, if they just worked on it to fix its imperfections, it could've been something outstanding.

Also reminder y'all, people can love things you hate, or hate things you love. Don't get all up in arms about it. :)
 

Dr.Morris79

Member
dude fuck yes!

i just started playing this game for the first time a couple weeks ago and its amazing! its like OG doom, i fucking love it. although i disagree bc i loved doom 2016. but honestly, doom 64 is better than 2016.... so were kind on the same page...?

but yeah man put on some doom 64 and slayer or cannibal corpse and that is a genuinely great doom experience. eternal isnt doom and it never will be. they need to go back to their roots.
I remember buying it when it came out on the N64 and being miffed it never had any reload animations, after over coming that I realised that it's still a true Doom game

2016 to me was a bit 'too' quick and bouncy to be a proper Doom game but I still found it a good time, but Eternal? I still cant wrap my head around most people prasing it as the best Doom game as it's so far removed from what made Doom good, great even

I agree with you they need to go back to the roots but I have a suspicion they never will, I reckon the series will get more bouncy with brighter neon colours, sadly.
 

MrS

Banned
to completely change the core gameplay and alienate the fans of the originals and 2016? no. weak spots? staggering? constantly running out of ammo? constantly doing glory kills? constantly having to chainsaw? overdone platforming and jumping? this is barely a sequel, its a whole new game, made for monster'd out teens and fans of twitch arena shooters. they completely gutted the formula. this is not how you make a sequel. it's how you alienate a large portion of your fanbase.

doom is one of my favorite games ever, hell it was my first game ever! doom 2016 was amazing and so promising for the future. then eternal came out and i dont know what the hell that monstrosity is, but its not doom.
I agree with this. Didn't enjoy my time with Doom Eternal. Glory kills are fucking stupid. Just let me gib enemies quickly and move on to the next. If they put this shit in the Quake reboot, I ain't buying it. Cunts.
 
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Tqaulity

Member
So I played through the full game previously on PS4 but deliberately waited for the next-gen update before replaying or playing the DLC. It sucks that the saves don't carry over to PS5 but for me it's not too bad as I wanted to reply anyway.

I played the first level on PS5 so far switching between the 3 modes. All are pretty viable depending on what you want but my favorite mode so far might actually be the 120fps mode! I'm generally not someone who is keen for 60+ fps modes, but this game still looks great and is hella smooth at 120fps. Keep in mind that my TV is only HDMI 2.0b so the 120hz mode default to 1080p (which is why for me and most people, the specific resolution at 120hz really doesn't matter). But it still looked sharp, had tons of pop and was really smooth.

The RT mode seemed great as well and ran pretty well. The RT does enhances certain materials and lighting effects as well as adding reflections. It's not a dramatic difference so far but it's nice. The actual RT effects are fairly rudimentary when you examine it closely but it runs fairly well at a mostly locked 60fps and the resolution difference is imperceptible on my LG C8 OLED.

Also worth noting that all 3 modes have a noticeable stutter at times that can detract from the experience. It usually crops up when colliding with the environment and doing some of the platforming. I haven't had too much time to test but it seems that it may be slightly more prominent in the RT mode and slightly less so in the 120hz mode. But I saw it in all 3.

Overall, it's clearly a nice enhancement over the last gen console versions with both the RT and 120hz mode options adding noticeable enhancements to the game. Balanced mode is nice too if not pretty boring in its execution (not very different overall from enhanced last gen consoles especially). One of my favorite games of last year so definitely check it out if you haven't played already. Great time to jump in.
 

Plantoid

Member
Thread turned into a eternal vs 2016 battle and my vote is for eternal, yes, it's harder, that makes it even better for me
 

BigLee74

Member
I like all of Doom Eternals additions except the awful ammo management.

Well, that and the fact you always need to throw a grenade down the throat of a Cocademon otherwise they take ages to die.

Those additions are enough to turn a potentially great game into a chore.
 
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Deleted member 17706

Unconfirmed Member
I'll beat this game someday! But, yeah, I'm not a huge fan of the gameplay loop (I've said this a ton of times in various threads).

With that said, this latest update is pretty awesome. The ray traced reflections look great and with DLSS Balanced enabled, but otherwise maxed out at 4K, I'm getting over 120 fps on an RTX 3080 and it's pretty damn awesome.
 
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Kev Kev

Member
I reckon the series will get more bouncy with brighter neon colours, sadly.
yeah i think youre right, unfortunately. good thing the classics will never die :messenger_bicep: i can always have a blast with some old school doom and 80s thrash metal. and i still have like 20 levels left to go in doom 64 :messenger_beaming:
Thread turned into a eternal vs 2016 battle and my vote is for eternal, yes, it's harder, that makes it even better for me
its a very divisive game. and with how universally praised doom 2016 was, its a head scratcher that they would go this route. but here we are...

but yeah i guess its a little annoying for people like me to derail the thread, point taken. ill lay off in the future.....

im just so mad about how much i didnt like the game. i was so hyped. and even for the first half of the first level i was like "ok its a bit tough but ill get used to it"... but i never did and i wound up dying constantly and not even knowing wtf happened most of the time. it was the most odd, baffling video game experience in recent memory. i loved a lot of other stuff about it tho. i remember finding the first secret, hearing the door noise from the OG doom, seeing the walls filled with bodies just like OG doom, the music and so much more and being very excited... but in the end the overall experience was just annoying and tedious af, and not fun.
I'll beat this game someday!
i feel the same. i really want to beat it one day, but i just find myself not having much fun after an hour or two. even after getting infinite ammo disk so the ammo thing wasnt an issue, the gameplay loop just wasnt fun for me. ive never thrown my arms up in confusion as to how i died, or been so frustrated with all the multi tasking and being tagged by enemies from every random direction constantly, more times than i did with this game. its just fucking annoying lol

ok ill shut up now. im glad you guys like the game and it does look great, and run smooth. its got a lot going for it, just not for me and i hope they return to form in the next installment, but if not, enjoy it, ill just go back to the OGs.
 

bender

What time is it?
Eternal is superior to 2016 in every possible way, way more engaging combat, much more varied locations, it's only downside is the nonsensical plot, it's funny how everyone was complaining about how you could beat 2016 using only 1 weapon and how the monsters don't look like Doom monsters at all yet somehow Doom Eternal is now worse because it tried to rectify those problems, those ranting about how Eternal is inferior because it's not a copycat of an older game, take this and go lie down.

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Is there an "L" costume doom guy I can unlock for the totally not garish home screen:

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And that home screen is a microcosm of my feelings about Eternal. There is a good game in there somewhere but all the surrounding trappings are unnecessary at best.
 

highrider

Banned
Boy have I have never seen so many weak players in one place. So you sucked at the game and it didn't handheld you to be a badass....that's what makes it better. It's not a noob fantasy, it's a veteran's paradise. My god, what a filthy casual talk, saying Doom eternal is inferior.
What a pathetic attempt at goading grown men in to some competitive thing about video games. Go grab your chicken tenders and calm down bro.
 

highrider

Banned
Is there an "L" costume doom guy I can unlock for the totally not garish home screen:

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And that home screen is a microcosm of my feelings about Eternal. There is a good game in there somewhere but all the surrounding trappings are unnecessary at best.
Complete shit show, very accurate to the content lol
 

JapeMincers

Member
Does anybody else's Doom Eternal show as 'Battlemode' on their XBOX? The campaign in there but it just looks rubbish displayed like that.

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