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Marvel’s “Eternals” Reviews Are In; if you like Thor : The Dark World then you’ll love this!

The trailers couldn't have been more boring.

This whole Marvel phase feels so incredibly trite.
Agreed.

I have no idea what they were going for in the trailers, because it looked boring and uneventful as all hell.

And I sincerely dislike the mood and tone of this movie based off the trailers as well, it was like trying to not appear to be a Marvel movie while also doesn't seem to be trying anything new other than a huge diverse cast off the get-go.
 

DeafTourette

Perpetually Offended
Very few people would have a problem with the diverse cast of the film if it were actually a good film.

It seems like it's good but it's subjective... It isn't all action and doesn't follow the formula so.. may be one of those films where time away from the hype paints it different for everyone who didn't like it initially.

This is why you don't go off anyone else's opinion. Find out for yourself.
 

sol_bad

Member
Seems to be more positive opinions than negative opinions from audiences so far. Sitting at 3.5 on Letterboxd with nearly 7000 reviews. And on IMDB, if you discredit the 1's and the 10's, it's leaning towards positive.
Box office wise it's looking like it might open higher than Black Widow. Of course we'll have to wait until weekend #2 to see if it has legs.
 

ManaByte

Gold Member
ROFL the Marvel sub on Reddit had to lock a post after the movie was banned in several Middle Eastern countries (there's a gay kiss in the movie). They're basically Era on steroids.
 

sol_bad

Member
ROFL the Marvel sub on Reddit had to lock a post after the movie was banned in several Middle Eastern countries (there's a gay kiss in the movie). They're basically Era on steroids.

I've heard the ban might be more related to the fact that the film is about gods, no idea if there is any truth to that. Were the Thor movies banned there?
 

ManaByte

Gold Member
I've heard the ban might be more related to the fact that the film is about gods, no idea if there is any truth to that. Were the Thor movies banned there?

No it's due to the sex scene and the kiss between two guys that Disney wouldn't edit out.
 

McCheese

Member
No it's due to the sex scene and the kiss between two guys that Disney wouldn't edit out.

The gay kiss scene was blatantly shot in a way it could easily be edited out for other markets, it's a quick cut to two guys kissing against a weirdly CGI background of a road/trees, then it just cuts back to the previous shot. Maybe they added it during reshoots.

My two cents are that the film is decent but the plot really unravels towards the end, it does its own thing most of the time which works - then the last 20-minutes they just go "oh fuck we forgot this is meant to be a phase 3 marvel film" and throw a lot of shit at the wall, both post-credit scenes are almost parody level bad.. big spoilers.. thanos' long lost brother says hello and kit harrington gets given a magical wizard swordI

It's a way better film than thor dark world.
 
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Papacheeks

Banned
The gay kiss scene was blatantly shot in a way it could easily be edited out for other markets, it's a quick cut to two guys kissing against a weirdly CGI background of a road/trees, then it just cuts back to the previous shot. Maybe they added it during reshoots.

My two cents are that the film is decent but the plot really unravels towards the end, it does its own thing most of the time which works - then the last 20-minutes they just go "oh fuck we forgot this is meant to be a phase 3 marvel film" and throw a lot of shit at the wall, both post-credit scenes are almost parody level bad.. big spoilers.. thanos' long lost brother says hello and kit harrington gets given a magical wizard swordI

It's a way better film than thor dark world.

it’s not sadly. The plot and its implications are way more entertaining than dark world. But dark world had the continuation of family dynamic with Thor, Loki, Odin, freya.
ETERNALS because of the terrible pacing and sloppy editing falls flat on character growth. Like there’s characters that say they love each other but we have no screen time with them interacting and growing into that believable setup. There’s just way to much exposition to unpack.

honestly I still enjoyed the celestial stuff, and the hint at the end credit scene was awesome. But unless your big into comics you will have no clue.

movie literally needed to be a 4 part mini series to fully get through that much back story.

This is one film where 2 hours is too little time wise.

btw characters voice at the end with kit Harrington was….
marshal ali aka blade
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HoodWinked

Member
everytime i check this, it drops another point.

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nush

Gold Member
Seems to be more positive opinions than negative opinions from audiences so far. Sitting at 3.5 on Letterboxd with nearly 7000 reviews. And on IMDB, if you discredit the 1's and the 10's, it's leaning towards positive.
Box office wise it's looking like it might open higher than Black Widow. Of course we'll have to wait until weekend #2 to see if it has legs.
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No easy way to say this, but this movie sucked. This - to me - was unlike Black Widow or Iron Man 3 where I mainly disliked the the dumb "twist" which then made me dislike the movie.

IMO it's the worst MCU movie thus far. Movie was all over the place and no coherence. Some poor VFX too. I think they needed about 8 hours worth of content to set it up properly and tried to jam that in a 2 hour flick.

it’s not sadly. The plot and its implications are way more entertaining than dark world. But dark world had the continuation of family dynamic with Thor, Loki, Odin, freya.
ETERNALS because of the terrible pacing and sloppy editing falls flat on character growth. Like there’s characters that say they love each other but we have no screen time with them interacting and growing into that believable setup. There’s just way to much exposition to unpack.

honestly I still enjoyed the celestial stuff, and the hint at the end credit scene was awesome. But unless your big into comics you will have no clue.

movie literally needed to be a 4 part mini series to fully get through that much back story.

This is one film where 2 hours is too little time wise.

btw characters voice at the end with kit Harrington was….
marshal ali aka blade
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I thought that was Dr. Strange, but good to know
 
Well, I've seen it. It's very... meh. I've seen worse, I've seen better, definitely one of the weakest MCU entries. It was an okay watch, but wouldn't begrudge anyone choosing to skip it.
 

Toons

Banned
The popcorn or tomatoes? I've not seen it but still am curious with all the talk about it.

The popcorn is the audience. Im with the audience on this one.

I dont know what these critics were smoking, like im legitimately confused what was bugging them. I've seen movies with the same flaws this one does in much more prominent nature get higher scores and have less of a better whole.
 
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Papacheeks

Banned
After stewing on this, I need another viewing where I can actually see whats going on. The theater me and my friends were in had the darkest projector I've ever seen, like some scenes I could not tell wtf was going on.


There's a lot to unpack, and I think the editing, and trying to put this all into 2 hours doesnt help it. The jumping around timelines also was jarring and not fluid with how they were trying to convey the story of the eternals and their emotions throughout human history doesnt all land.

I feel a mini series or a three hour film would have helped this movie breath and pace itself better than trying to have 5 minute scenes with nothing but expoisition between two characters. Like literally in the first 15 minutes Sersei and Kit Harrington character have like a 5 minute conversation about eternals just randomly, and they just carry on that Sprite told all this to Kit and guy is unfazed?

Theres just not enough time to develop relationships where we as viewers can connect, and thats the movies main issue. The actors are acting the shit out of their scenes, and there's some heart warming stuff in there, but were not given good flow of pacing where its a gradual build up, rather than jumping around timelines then bam emotional scene?

I still liked it, because the celestial stuff is fucking cool, but caring for eternals, doesnt land at all in my opinion. WHich is why I see this being super divisive between viewers and reviewers who look at the movie in 2 different ways.
 
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Papacheeks

Banned

literally flies into the sun, top tier writing.
LOL.

Yea, I read up on his character. I mean Mcfadden's Ikaris and Sersei are the best characters growth wise. Kingu is by far steals every scene he is in he's just having a blast. But I could not give 2 fucks about Sprite, Druig, or the deaf chick. Thena story was to me the most heart whelming, and they hardly did anything with her.

Like how do they not show more screen time with the whole memory thing in how it connects to Sersei's realization?
 
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McCheese

Member
Also the “we stand no chance against x even together” then individually they all take turns to kick x’s ass. Like what was that about! They could easily have won a team fight, no contest.
 
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it was far better than black widow. it at least tries to move the MCU forward with sentinels, and introduces new characters who are not just alternate costume versions of existing heroes.

You mean Celestials?

This movie had further implications to the MCU as a whole, but the post credit scenes were the most interesting part of the movie to me. It kinda had to because BW had no implications to the MCU at all. Black Widow - sans the Taskmaster twist - was okay. Like Ironman 2, a hero with a carbon copy there doing hero stuff. I actually like Yelena and the Red Guardian. The post credit scene was good too because of Elaine.

I don't know. I just did not like Eternals at all. It has a lot of pacing issues. A lot. As I previously said I believe it needed a good 8 hours of set up. A Disney+ series that sets it up properly or a couple of movies would have helped Eternals quite a bit. Also the kiss scene and sex scene were completely unnecessary. They felt to me like Zhao wanted to be the first to have those two scenes in an MCU project and Marvel was like, "yeah we are way past due".
 

Papacheeks

Banned
You mean Celestials?

This movie had further implications to the MCU as a whole, but the post credit scenes were the most interesting part of the movie to me. It kinda had to because BW had no implications to the MCU at all. Black Widow - sans the Taskmaster twist - was okay. Like Ironman 2, a hero with a carbon copy there doing hero stuff. I actually like Yelena and the Red Guardian. The post credit scene was good too because of Elaine.

I don't know. I just did not like Eternals at all. It has a lot of pacing issues. A lot. As I previously said I believe it needed a good 8 hours of set up. A Disney+ series that sets it up properly or a couple of movies would have helped Eternals quite a bit. Also the kiss scene and sex scene were completely unnecessary. They felt to me like Zhao wanted to be the first to have those two scenes in an MCU project and Marvel was like, "yeah we are way past due".

I think a mini series would have worked. Like sherlock series, hour and a half each episode, 4 Episodes. More than enough to get through eternals setup/backstory, setup the end fight with celestials.

Thats the issue with Eternals in a nut shell and why it hasn't had tons of writers take it on. Literally Kirby, and Gaimen are to me anyone who did anything with that. Kirby came up with it, and in 1970-80's was a lot of get through. Gaimen tried to do something cool with it, and still is hard to get through without being bored.

It's hard to relate and care about people who are basically gods that have no human connections. Thor works because they were not made like androids they had real childhoods and drama.
 

ManaByte

Gold Member
I don't know. I just did not like Eternals at all. It has a lot of pacing issues. A lot. As I previously said I believe it needed a good 8 hours of set up. A Disney+ series that sets it up properly or a couple of movies would have helped Eternals quite a bit. Also the kiss scene and sex scene were completely unnecessary. They felt to me like Zhao wanted to be the first to have those two scenes in an MCU project and Marvel was like, "yeah we are way past due".

There are rumors that this is the first casualty of the Chapek era. Basically they were editing the movie when she won her Best Directing Oscar, and Chapek stepped in and told them to give her total freedom when normally Fiege/Marvel controls it tighter. Iger knew enough not to meddle, Chapek is like Eisner 2.0 and is chasing clout with famous names at the derision of the creative side.
 

Ionian

Member
The popcorn is the audience. Im with the audience on this one.

I dont know what these critics were smoking, like im legitimately confused what was bugging them. I've seen movies with the same flaws this one does in much more prominent nature get higher scores and have less of a better whole.

Ah I know the difference, just my internet is shit. Both critic and aggregators seldom aline anyway when it comes to comic things. Notoriously up and down when it isn't Marvel, until now it seems.

As I said, was just curious. I don't plan on seeing it in a cinema.
 

Shao Kahn

Neo Member
Such a garbage flick. Even Bollywood scene is so shit like they never actually saw a Bollywood dance scene

it just speaks for itself when best actor on this movie was Jon snow dude where he had 5 minute at most screentime
 

Shao Kahn

Neo Member
There are rumors that this is the first casualty of the Chapek era. Basically they were editing the movie when she won her Best Directing Oscar, and Chapek stepped in and told them to give her total freedom when normally Fiege/Marvel controls it tighter. Iger knew enough not to meddle, Chapek is like Eisner 2.0 and is chasing clout with famous names at the derision of the creative side.
Why can't you accept your indie darling made a shit movie. I don't feel this movie is edited by committee at all. It felt like her movie and it felt like very garbage
 

Shao Kahn

Neo Member
it was far better than black widow. it at least tries to move the MCU forward with sentinels, and introduces new characters who are not just alternate costume versions of existing heroes.
Black widow atleast was enjoyable to watch. This is pure boredom not even jokes land.
 

Shao Kahn

Neo Member
What the fuck do you mean by that?
Im saying that Chloe Zhao isn't a good/capable director for a grand desoire big budget movie. She isnt Cameron or even fuck Snyder lol. Other mcu directors know their limits and let previs and committee do their job for them. She acted like she was better than them clearly shown here she is shit tier for Hollywood. This movie is same tier as Cloud Atlas and that stupid movie Brad bird did
 

Shao Kahn

Neo Member
Black Widow is garbage. Wasn't even enjoyable to watch. Worst MCU movie by far. It was boring and they destroyed Taskmaster for Twitter kudos.
Couldn't give fuck about a masked shit tier villain. Movie itself was constructed very clearly, acting was much fucking better than eternals. Look at actress who played Sersi. Literal wood would have played better than her. Even wasted Jolie and Hayek. Only ikaris was ok because he is supposed to be out of touch / non human social like features.

The boys did evil superman schtick much better
Actors in black widow were much better. Comic relief, mom character, sister etc all had chemistry which found none here.
 

ManaByte

Gold Member
Im saying that Chloe Zhao isn't a good/capable director for a grand desoire big budget movie. She isnt Cameron or even fuck Snyder lol. Other mcu directors know their limits and let previs and committee do their job for them. She acted like she was better than them clearly shown here she is shit tier for Hollywood. This movie is same tier as Cloud Atlas and that stupid movie Brad bird did

And how did that change what I said? Normally Marvel controls their movies more, the rumor is Chapek gave her full control after she won an Oscar and this is the result. Shit.
 

Shao Kahn

Neo Member
And how did that change what I said? Normally Marvel controls their movies more, the rumor is Chapek gave her full control after she won an Oscar and this is the result. Shit.
I don't think we disagree on the fact that movie is shit , sorry my shitty brain thought that you said movie was edited by studio after Chapek came to position. Anyway I don't think that happened/which doesnt matter but because movie itself was locked likely a year ago or so considering original release date
 

ManaByte

Gold Member
I don't think we disagree on the fact that movie is shit , sorry my shitty brain thought that you said movie was edited by studio after Chapek came to position. Anyway I don't think that happened/which doesnt matter but because movie itself was locked likely a year ago or so considering original release date

The story going around is that Chapek took the editing control away from Feige/Marvel, who normally controls the editing much tighter than other studios, and gave Zhao 100% control of the editing after she won her Oscar. Not that the editing was done by the studio, actually the opposite, the studio control was taken away when that was never done before in the Iger era.

The only time Iger ever really interfered is when he said he hated the original third act of Rogue One and the result was a much better movie.
 

SafeOrAlone

Banned
Feige is the number one producer you don't want to take control away from.

Odd for Chapek to do that. The word on him is that he is extremely cost-oriented, so why would he mess with a billion dollar formula, in the name of creative expression? Doesn't add up, but maybe he's more complicated than we thought.
 
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