GymWolf
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My 55" C1 is on the arrive too.
Hopefully the fabrication date is before september 2021.
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LG C1 OLED--Question
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Hopefully the fabrication date is before september 2021.
Flintty
Member
I was looking into a soundbar to go with it and saw that as an issue. Some owners said they put the C1 on a stable piece of wood to lift it above. Can’t remember the size
Bojanglez
The Amiga Brotherhood
Yeah that's one of my main concerns, I have a central speaker that sits below my TV.
One option is to get a Vesa stand with adjustable height.
DarkestHour
Banned
Yeah, good idea or a like colored plastic base that isn't too gaudy.
Flintty
Member
Is there an issue with panels made after that date?
I’m currently stood here with my C1 half unpacked and the stand put together, shitting bricks. It’s fucking intimidating how big yet thin it is, so I’m waiting for a mate to come and help me lift it onto the stand.
GymWolf
Member
There was a problem with the hdmi ports and the hdcp protocol, but lg solved everything with a fix a couple of days ago.
Flintty
Member
Rickyiez
Member
You're crazy if you have such thoughts. Movie looks unrivaled and amazing on OLED, motion and picture quality wise.
Ulysses 31
Member
OLEDs have a lot of stutter because of the fast response time, it's pretty bad at 30 fps.
It's resolved with motion interpolation but it adds latency which is why it's usually disabled in game mode.
Arioco
Member
Day two of having the C1 and I have a single pixel stuck on green with a grey verticals line which is really obvious when viewing black or grey menus. Tried factory reset and pixel refresh - nothing. Looks like it’s going back
This things happen all the time. Don't worry, just ask the seller to replace your unit and I'm sure the next one will be fine.
Flintty
Member
Yeah, will contact them tomorrow. Hoping it’s just bad luck and the next will be ok.This things happen all the time. Don't worry, just ask the seller to replace your unit and I'm sure the next one will be fine.
Arioco
Member
Don't worry, it will. You are going to love your new TV, I have a CX and it's amazing.
Aguero9320
Member
Had my C1 77 since Monday. It’s truly awesome. I’ve got VRR turned on, and haven’t felt the need to change the black levels once.
In fact, I’m using out of the box settings pretty much entirely and I love it.
In fact, I’m using out of the box settings pretty much entirely and I love it.
teezzy
Banned
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Does anyone know if I can set my ps5 so it turns on my cx and goes to the right connection?
Or just changes automatically to the correct input when I turn it on.
I'm sure its something I'm doing wrong as my xbox does it.
Or just changes automatically to the correct input when I turn it on.
I'm sure its something I'm doing wrong as my xbox does it.
Flintty
Member
Oh for sure, I’m super impressed with it. Watched some Dolby Vision films yesterday and about 4 hours of Halo Infinite - the TV has blown me away. Just gutted this has happened on day two and mostly gutted because it was a bastard to set up and I’m gonna have to do that all over againDon't worry, it will. You are going to love your new TV, I have a CX and it's amazing.
LavitzSlambert
Member
You need to make sure HDMI CEC is set properly for both the TV and the console.
On my C1 it’s under General —> Devices —> HDMI settings. Turn on SIMPLINK (HDMI-CEC).
On PS5, go to settings —> system —> HDMI and make sure Enable one-touch play is on. I DON’T recommend turning on Enable Power Off Link, it’s really annoying, so keep that off unless you like accidentally sleeping the console.
MikeM
Member
Hey all. Thinking about moving on from my X900H to the LG CX. What kind of upgrades can I expect? This is mainly for sports, Series X and PS5. Note that I came from a plasma VT50 before and that I am actually pretty happy with the X900H overall.
edit: what about the reliability of these panels? Is extended warranty a good idea?
edit: what about the reliability of these panels? Is extended warranty a good idea?
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LordOfChaos
Member
I helped set up a friends C1 and it looks amazing, but as soon as we started playing stuff we were both like, yeah that truemotion crap has got to go. Better without it for most content imo, but then some videos on youtube looked really juddery, I guess 24fps
Would the right setting to eliminate judder, but not introduce added smoothing, be to set the de-judder one notch over?
LavitzSlambert
Member
I helped set up a friends C1 and it looks amazing, but as soon as we started playing stuff we were both like, yeah that truemotion crap has got to go. Better without it for most content imo, but then some videos on youtube looked really juddery, I guess 24fps
Would the right setting to eliminate judder, but not introduce added smoothing, be to set the de-judder one notch over?
I’ve had good success in slow panning by setting dejudder to 3. It doesn’t stop it from happening during fast panning scenes but it won’t introduce the soap opera effect in any noticeable way.
Arioco
Member
I helped set up a friends C1 and it looks amazing, but as soon as we started playing stuff we were both like, yeah that truemotion crap has got to go. Better without it for most content imo, but then some videos on youtube looked really juddery, I guess 24fps
Would the right setting to eliminate judder, but not introduce added smoothing, be to set the de-judder one notch over?
There must be a Trumotion option called "Cinema clear" somewhere which may help. At least the CX has that option. It smoothes out the judder a bit but without adding that horrible soap opera effect that I hate so much. Very useful when watching movies or YouTube videos at 30 fps.
Celcius
°Temp. member
I've had concerns about 30 fps gaming on an OLED as well, but at least on my Switch 30 fps hasn't been an issue at all. The only difference I've noticed vs an lcd is better picture quality.Ask OLED Switch owners
StateofMajora
Banned
Yeah
LordOfChaos
if you don't like the way the cinemotion preset looks, 1 to 3 is a good range. Use the lowest value that makes judder tolerable to your eyes. On my A8h which has a value of 1 to 3, I have it on one.
chriskun
Member
I just got the c1 a few weeks ago, and it def is pretty fucking awesome. There is some noticeable screen judder on 30-24fps content though. It is especially noticeable in scenes when there are high contrast elements like white text moving across screen, or panning city views at night(brightly lit windows against a black sky). One bummer for me is that it seems I cant use gsync with my 1070 through hdmi, but thats a me problem I suppose.
Demigod Mac
Member
Agreed, 3 is a good happy-medium setting for that. For some games where input lag isn't a big issue and artifacting is minimal, the smoothing setting actually works great. (e.g. Final Fantasy VII Remake)
Mileage will vary from title to title, of course.
Dave_at_Home
Member
I've found just leaving the basic VRR on doesn't mess with the black levels but turning on Freesync Premium Pro does.
Maxwell Jacob Friedman
leads to fear. Fear leads to xbox.
Just got a C1 and will be hooking it up in a week because busy with work. Quick question, how are subtitles with oleds? Are they a big no no. I bought persona 5, FFVII Integrade and Ghost of Tsushima and plan on playing all of them with japanese voice over and subs. Ill vary content as much as I can but say after I game for a few hours should i throw on netflix or something in tne background that will refresh the image etc.?
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
If you gamed for 4h and turn off the tv with a remote, it will run a pixel refresher. Screen will turn off and after about 5 minutes you will hear ding from tv psu so you will know the refresh did its job And turned off the tv.
it’s all automatic. If you play all day, it will for sure run it’s thing after you finish.
if you walk away with a dog or want to listen to the tv, you can bind screen off button too quick menu. It still just turn the screen black but keep audio etc. useful
i finished ff7 with subs and it was great!!!
Btw. For sdr content try to run lower brightness like oled light 40. HDR I go wild like default settings suggest
Maxwell Jacob Friedman
leads to fear. Fear leads to xbox.
Also im going to put on that thing where it shifts the pixels randomly while gaming to prevent burn in as much as possible. Also for the sdr contenr why lower if I may ask? Ive been watching hdtvtest guy on youtube and was going to follow his settings but if your saying different may tweak them a lil
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
His settings are mostly fine but sdr standard is about 100 to 120 nits. So when playing in sdr at setting off about 40, you get technically more accurate picture and dimmer pixels will take longer to burn in.
But maybe don’t worry about this too much. Btw I am setting all profiles to warm 50. You might think it’s yellow at first but when you switch back, it will look cold
GymWolf
Member
The c1 arrived today, i accept any advice about using the tv as a pc monitor or with a ps5.
I don't need to use v-sync anymore to eliminate tearing now that i have a g-sync panel right?! Any g-sync setting to check on nvidia sides of things?or other stuff Like limited or full or how many bits between 8 or 10 (or 12 if the option is available).
Also, do i really need to do any form of break-in like first 100 hours watching patterns and shit... (Not sure if break-in is the right term), i did thatcon my current tv but many people told me that it is a waste of time.
I don't need to use v-sync anymore to eliminate tearing now that i have a g-sync panel right?! Any g-sync setting to check on nvidia sides of things?or other stuff Like limited or full or how many bits between 8 or 10 (or 12 if the option is available).
Also, do i really need to do any form of break-in like first 100 hours watching patterns and shit... (Not sure if break-in is the right term), i did thatcon my current tv but many people told me that it is a waste of time.
Topher
Gold Member
Be sure and go into the Nvidia control panel and go to the "Enable GSync" section to make sure it is on. After that, I changed the global properties in the control panel to disable vsync in all games.
GymWolf
Member
I always use vsync from nvidia panel on a game for game basis so i don't have the vsync activated on global settings.
What about the color depth\bit?
I guess you also changed the hdmi port in PC right? They say to do that on console but i guess you need to do that on pc aswell...
Last thing, am i forced to use game mode to have the lowest input lag? Or i can game mode but in a more accurate colore mode like filmmaker?
My current panasonic let me actovate game mode on any mode but maybe lg works different (like i saw that gaming sub menu you can visualize if you press a button on the remote).
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rofif
Can’t Git Gud
wrong. You do need vsync forced globally in nvidia control panel.
It is not the same vsync as without vrr though. And it's not only acting like a framerate ceiling. It also helps to remove tearing. Disable vsync in games. Let nvidia take over.
Believe or not, vrr alone does not eliminate all tearing. You might still see some in bottom part of the screen without tearing.
Don't do any break in
Don't watch any patterns.
Just enjoy the amazing picture ! Do not look for flaws. The tv really gets more uniform with time.
Now my tips:
-On desktop and sdr games, only use SDR. Hdr might look more vivid but it totally misrepresents sdr colors. BONUS TIP : win+alt+b switches hdr in windows
-2.2 sdr gamma is fine. bt1886 is also ok at night. Do not change any brightnss or contrast settings.
-yeah. Full, rgb, 10bit is max you can do in nvcp. Choose resolution from PC resolutions tab. Otherwise it is wonky and you can have black bars on the side
-When using SDR, try to stay around 100 nits. That's about 40 oled pixel brightness setting
-I use warm50 white balance setting on my c1 on both sdr and hdr. all reviews say it is accurate. It seemed yellow at first but I love it after using for some time.
-Disable power saving options in the tv. it dims the picture. Do not disable other oled care options. Screen shift and logo dimming is fine.
-Disable some AI stuff in settings. Ai sound, ai picture and so on.
-Remember to keep changing audio mode to your preferred one each time you start a game or pc... the tv keeps changing it back to game optimizer at random times. I like Cinema mode.
-Run AI acoustic tuning in AI settings and enable bass boost. It's separate from audio mode. Tv sounds amazing with this.
-When You turn of the tv, do not unplug it. Let it run it's pixel refresher. You will hear a ding after it's finished (5-7 minutes)
-On pc, auto hide taskbar, 2 minutes blank black screen saver. I have also set wallpaper randomization every 1 minute. People say to use black wallpaper but A) it's boring as fuck and b) I want my whole screen to wear evenly. Not only middle window.
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rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Default max values. You don't change this stuff as hdr needs to have it;s dynamic highs as high as can be,
100 oled pixel
100 contrast
50 brightness
hgig
GymWolf
Member
I'm sorry but i don't uderstand a thing of what you are saying (my fault)...can't i just use g-sync without vrr? Or the 2 things are connected? And why do i need to use vsync global setting on if gsync is already on?
Ok.
I already use sdr for everything except hdr games on pc so ok with that, unfortunately the bonus thing doesn't work on win10, only 11, already tried.
I think that i'm gonna look at vincent settings to set gamma and all the complicated shit.
Pc resolution tab is the one on nvidia panel or some other place inside windows? I usally use the nvcp to change resolution, is it the wrong place?
Like i said, i'm probably gonna watch some guide for the micro-settings but i'm used to yellow-ish\warm color since i always used the most color accurate mode on my current oled and it turns out that even reality has a yellow piss filter
Yeah, already kniw that from vincent's advices on yt.
Ok
Not really an audiophile myself, i'm probably never gonna notice the mode change
Who the fuck unplug their tv when they turn them off?? My current panasonic does the same pixel refresh thing.
The important thing is that i can turn off the tv from the power button without risks (i have this thing when if i wanna use the monitor i need to turn off the tv because the tv is the main monitor and has the priority, i tried doing the thing where the tv become an extension of the monitor and you movecyour mouse between them so i can have both turned on but i don't like doing that)
What do you mean by run ai acoustic? Is it something that i have to do one time only to improve the audio?
I never used wallpapers in my past 2 oled that i used as pc monitor, it never happen that i watch my desktop for 2 min straight without doing nothing and even when i left the tv on the desktop for more than 2 minutes because i had to take a dump or play with the dog, nothing ever happened.
Unless lg has worse burn in tech than a tv from 2018 and 2015 i think that i'm gonna be okay.
Any pattern test to run on yt to check for flaws like tint or stuff bad enough to return the tv?
Thanks buddy, i'm probably gonna ask a fuckload of questions since i'm pretty noob with this stuff.
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ParaSeoul
Member
A lot of games I tried look weird with HGIG
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
yeah it depends on the game.
Treat Hgig as "leave max white and darkest black" calibration to game/console.
Any time there is "move the slider until this disappears, only do this stuff with HGIG.
Dynamic Tone mapping just analyzes the scene and does whatever it wants to use max hdr capabilities. Usually brighter.
I always check both
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Vincent for hdtvtest is solid. You can use his advice !I'm sorry but i don't uderstand a thing of what you are saying (my fault)...can't i just use g-sync without vrr? Or the 2 things are connected? And why do i need to use vsync global setting on if gsync is already on?
Ok.
I already use sdr for everything except hdr games on pc so ok with that, unfortunately the bonus thing doesn't work on win10, only 11, already tried.
I think that i'm gonna look at vincent settings to set gamma and all the complicated shit.
Pc resolution tab is the one on nvidia panel or some other place inside windows? I usally use the nvcp to change resolution, is it the wrong place?
Like i said, i'm probably gonna watch some guide for the micro-settings but i'm used to yellow-ish\warm color since i always used the most color accurate mode on my current oled and it turns out that even reality has a yellow piss filter
Yeah, already kniw that from vincent's advices on yt.
Ok
Not really an audiophile myself, i'm probably never gonna notice the mode change
Who the fuck unplug their tv when they turn them off?? My current panasonic does the same pixel refresh thing.
The important thing is that i can turn off the tv from the power button without risks (i have this thing when if i wanna use the monitor i need to turn off the tv because the tv is the main monitor and has the priority, i tried doing the thing where the tv become an extension of the monitor and you movecyour mouse between them so i can have both turned on but i don't like doing that)
What do you mean by run ai acoustic? Is it something that i have to do one time only to improve the audio?
I never used wallpapers in my past 2 oled that i used as pc monitor, it never happen that i watch my desktop for 2 min straight without doing nothing and even when i left the tv on the desktop for more than 2 minutes because i had to take a dump or play with the dog, nothing ever happened.
Unless lg has worse burn in tech than a tv from 2018 and 2015 i think that i'm gonna be okay.
Any pattern test to run on yt to check for flaws like tint or stuff bad enough to return the tv?
Thanks buddy, i'm probably gonna ask a fuckload of questions since i'm pretty noob with this stuff.
Vrr - variable refresh rate. Just a short term for G-sync
V-sync is just a supplement to g-sync after it is enabed.
You will 100% notice cinema sound mode together with AI acustic tuning. It's under general, ai settings. You also enable bass there after the tuning.
Pc resolution - yeah. Nvidia is a good place. This to be exact
GymWolf
Member
Ok vsync is a supplement and i need to use it because g-sync sometimes is not enough to get rid of tearing right?Vincent for hdtvtest is solid. You can use his advice !
Vrr - variable refresh rate. Just a short term for G-sync
V-sync is just a supplement to g-sync after it is enabed.
You will 100% notice cinema sound mode together with AI acustic tuning. It's under general, ai settings. You also enable bass there after the tuning.
Pc resolution - yeah. Nvidia is a good place. This to be exact
But then why having it turned on in general settings when i don't need to use it for every game? if i remember well, using v-sync can cause some input delay\performance issues so people don't use it if it is not strictly necessary.
For the audio thing, so i need to do that ia tuning for every hdmi port that i'm using right? or it is something then you do one time only and it si valid for every port?
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rofif
Can’t Git Gud
I think that audio ai tuning is just once. No need to repeat. But many settings are different in sdr/hdr modes and on each input. There is "apply to all inputs" button somewhere in there but I don't trust it.
You are correct with vsync. It is good option to have but it also is laggy WHEN YOU hit 120hz. That's why people set maxfps limits to 117 but I don't bother anymore
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GymWolf
Member
I only play at 60 fps.
What about game mode, do i need to play in that mode to have the lowest input lag or i can activate some sort of game mode\less input lag in any video mode?
I don't know how it works on lg, but on my panasonic game mode is both a selectable video mode like cinema etc. and something that you can also activate in any video mode via options and it just cut all the unnecessary shit in any video mode to get the lowest input lag but with more accurate colors.
How does it work on lg? if i want to play with the most accurate color mode, can i activate game mode everywhere?
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rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Check out some tips here:
I just use game optimizer mode for everything. It is the lowest lag mode.
even if you play at 60hz, then just enable 120hz, g-sync and cap framerate at 60hz within the driver.
MacReady13
Member
Except for burn in. They didn't fix burn in (although they never needed to fix it as it wasn't an issue on LED's but IS an issue on OLED's).
GymWolf
Member
Dude i think that vrr and gsync are not the same thing.
Vrr is an hdmi 2.1 new feature, g-sync is made by nvidia and it is much older, they probably work in the same way but they are 2 different things and the tv has both of them (and freesync for amd gpus on pc).
I think the tv use vrr with the consoles and gsync or freesync on pc unless you specifically disable these 2.
returning to your post, so i can basically chose any video mode like filmmaker then use the game bar sub menu that you can pop up with the remote and activate the low latency ON (i just saw a video where they show this).
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