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I got too many comics
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sol_bad

Member
I've read a few books over the past few weeks.

Velvet - Ed Brubaker and Steve Epting
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Lovely hardcover that collects all 15 issues of the series. Brubaker and Epting are great together and compliment each other wonderfully. They did the Captain America Winter Soldier book together as well which I haven't read (but recently got the omnibus for) yet but look forward to it. This is a classic spy action/thriller set in the 70's with a typical set up where the hero is framed for a murder. Even though it's typical it as a hell of a lot of fun to read through and that art is gorgeous. The ending did and didn't surprise me, I don't want to spoil anything though in case anyone reads it.

TMNT IDW - various writers and artists
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Sped through the first 3 hardcovers which covers up to issue 28, 16 minis and the Secret History of the Foot Clan side story. I have ordered volume 4 and 5 and can't wait for them to arrive. Loving it so far and the change to the "mythology" is interesting, again I won't spoil what that change is as it's fun to discover it yourself.
These 3 books cover a number of things, they introduce you to Baxter Stockman, Krang, Shredder, Karai and the Utroms. How they are all related is very different to any of the other continuities so it's nice and fresh. We learn about the foot clan, how they originated and the war that the Utroms are waging.
The main series is primarily written by Kevin Eastman and Tom Waaltz, they are great together. The art I didn't think was that good until Mateus Santolouco came onboard with #21 ongoing and once he does it's very lovely to look at.

Deadpool - Brian Posehn and Gerry Duggan
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The final 2 hardcovers collect #26-44 and #250 of this run.
These books deal with Deadpool and Shiklah's marriage and it's fallout with Dracula, someone being brought back to life (I won't spoil who), his daughter, his holiday in the Middle East and Ultimatum. The first 2 volumes were definitely better and the art was generally better as well. I didn't even screen shot any art on the Marvel Unlimited app as nothing caught my fancy. The end felt extremely rush as well, probably because of the Secret Wars event which unfortunately can't be helped.

Shiklah is pretty hawt though.
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Currently reading the IDW Transformers hardcover books, I have the first 5 to get through.

Also, Omar announced that JMS Spidey Omni volume 1 will get a reprint. Volume 2 is still out there available for order, volume 1 went super fast when it was released in March of last year.
 
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sol_bad

Member
Just bought this at cheap graphic novels Eric Powell is an awesome artist and writer,the goon and hillbilly are so good can’t wait.
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Can you say if it's an oversized hardcover or standard hardcover when you get it? I've never heard of this but have heard lots of good things about The Goon.
 

sol_bad

Member
Marvel are reprinting Hickman's Avengers omnibus volume 1 and 2.



For anyone interested, Marvel are also reprinting Hickman's Fantastic Four omnis 1 and 2 later this year and early next year.
Good time to be a Hickman fan.

Gem Mint does an overview of Ethan Scivers Cyberfrog. I think Sciver is a bit of a wanker but he's a good artist and I'm still interested in this Cyberfrog book. Big shame that it's not an oversized omnibus. Hopefully it gets a release at book stores or in the direct market.
 

sol_bad

Member
X-Men: Fall of the Mutants is getting a reprint. Almost all of Chris Claremont's run is collected in omnibus form now, very excited.



Gem Mint goes through this weeks comics.



Ether by Matt Kindt and David Rubin looks pretty cool.
 
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DelireMan7

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Tax return money well spent. My first DC omni, Animal Man.
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So far I only buy collected edition (soft and hard cover) and I am still puzzled about omnibus. I am not sure to know what they are.

I get that it's a compilation of a certain character's stories but is it full story ? Or just some issues of several stories ?
I have the feeling they are a mix of several different stories to get a feeling of the character. If this is it, it's not for me for the moment.
 

sol_bad

Member
So far I only buy collected edition (soft and hard cover) and I am still puzzled about omnibus. I am not sure to know what they are.

I get that it's a compilation of a certain character's stories but is it full story ? Or just some issues of several stories ?
I have the feeling they are a mix of several different stories to get a feeling of the character. If this is it, it's not for me for the moment.

Like the smaller tradepaper and hardcovers the omnibus books also collect issues in order but they aren't released in full publishing order. Marvel and DC might release an omnibus covering issues from the 60's, then the 2000's, then the 90's. Omnis for the 60's just release books in print order for that character, when books from the 80's and beyond release, it's generally creator run based. Eventually the omnibus should collect every issue of every character. In the last year and a half Marvel have substantially increased the omnibus reprints and releases. I jumped in in November last year and currently have about 26 omnibus.

If you check this wiki page.

You'll see each character / group listed and what omnis have been release so far.
Fantastic Four for example, you'll see the first 4 omnis collect issues 1-125, covering the 60's through to the 70's. Then you'll see the Fantastic Four by John Byrne 1 and 2, collecting majority of issues between #209 and #295, the missing issues will eventually get released in another omnibus. Then there is the Mark Waid, Jonathan Hickman and Matt Fraction omnibu.

If you collect the Epic Collection's by Marvel, it's the same thing, releases jump around the years but each release has 25 or so issues in chronological order.
 

DelireMan7

Member
So in the past months I have red all the mutants series composing the Dawn of X universe. Yesterday I have receive the X of sword massive collected edition. I've read the first 3 issues and the art is still gorgeous and I like the fact that it's look like a cohesive story.

I am fairly new to comics universe and was a bit surprised by all this Dawn of X stuff. It's the first big storyline, which involves multiples series, I follow in comics.
I already seen of different forum/reddit advising newcomers to not worry too much about following everything and just read the issue/series that appeals you and it sounded weird to me. I mean I usually wants to read the entirety of a storyline... But after reading the Dawn of X, I see what they meant.

I have the feeling if I have picked directly X of sword (which is suppose to be the culminating point of the overarching story line of the Dawn of X series), without prior reading, I wouldn't have been lost at all since there is a nice introduction to the events coming and it doesn't look like I would have missed much.
I liked most of the Dawn of X series, with the Wolverine serie being the best by far, but it wasn't that intertwined like I think it would. You get some reference here and there but nothing to crazy.

So for my future readings (I'll take a break of the X-men current universe after X of Sword), I'll focus a smaller storyline and not necessarily read everything.

It also makes me realized how the MCU really captured well this feeling. You can pick up any movie without prior knowledge and not really being completely lost (I never got the complaints "You have to watch 20 movies to understand it"). The only exception would be Endgame. But you gain more by watching more of them (which is not that true for the Dawn of X series in my opinion).

Another thing that surprised me (as a newcomers), is how the twists are coming from "nowhere". Characters are sometimes in a desperate situation then the next page something completely unexpected come to save the situation. Or you have a huge explanation (which can involve time/reality warping, ancient mystic force...) than explains without really explaining how the day was saved. It's not necessarily a bad thing, I actually like this kind of stuff. But I was surprised to see it so often. (I am more used to manga and so bigger storylines and world/characters building).
It's also maybe due to the completely overpowered abilities mutants have on Krakoa like the ressurection... I mean the death of Professor X was supposed to be a shock but I was like "He will be ressurected anyway". Of course they were like "We're not sure it's gonna work" but by the end of the next issue, he's back...

Another little complaint is how similar the mutants power look on paper. My main knowledge of the X-men is coming from the old animated series and some of the movie. And for me each mutant was really unique at that time : Cyclop shoot beam with his eyes, Storm control the weather, Wolverine has claw and regenration, Jean Grey telekinesis and telepathy.... But in the dawn of X there is a lot of mutants (I didn't know) and I have the feeling on paper, they just shoot beams of different colors. Some have still unique powers but often I was a bit confused by how similar looking the different abilities were.

Anyway, I really looking forward the X of swords event. After that I'll do a complete reread of the New 52 Batman (Courts of owl...), which I liked a lot but after the Year Zero arc, it went down hill for me but I think it worth another go since I have the feeling I was still confused about the comics format at that time (it was my first full run reading actually).
Then I'd like to dive into DC universe more with the Dark Nights : Death Metal serie and some of the Future State series.
 

OmegaSupreme

advanced basic bitch
Can you not buy the Guyver manga in the states? I loved the various animes and even the movies as a kid and I was looking into the manga and I don't see it?
 

sol_bad

Member
Can you not buy the Guyver manga in the states? I loved the various animes and even the movies as a kid and I was looking into the manga and I don't see it?

It seems like VIZ had it licensed years ago and released the tankobons up to volume 7. Another company from Singapore released up to volume 10. Either way, it was incomplete and now out of print. The manga went up to volume 32

Unless you have money to burn, OOP manga is not worth pursuing.

Maybe one day it will get licensed again.
 

DGrayson

Mod Team and Bat Team
Staff Member
Please use spoiler tags when putting so many images in a row. Not for spoiler reasons (although some may want that) but it makes the thread unnavigable.
 

sol_bad

Member
I haven't posted in here for a while but I'm still reading a tonne of Marvel.
I'm 76% of the way through 2016, trying to get my read ratio to 5 books per day.

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Just started reading the Civil War 2 event, only 2 issues in though so can't really comment on it yet.
 

sol_bad

Member
My haul for the month.
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Omar also announced the Kelly Sue DeConnick Captain Marvel omnibus. I know I have heard terrible things about this run but the trades must have been selling really well for this to come out. I'll probably check it out on Marvel Unlimited and see if I like it.
 

DelireMan7

Member
Went back to comics with Once and Future. Really a great one. It's based on Arthurian legends and the art is amazing :
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Then I went back to restart Thor (Aaron's run) and the God Butcher storyline is really great :
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Kagey K

Banned
So DC Universe recently came out in my region.

As someone who read a ton of Marvel growing up but never really touched DC, I have to say finding a good reading order is a monumental task in itself.

I'm planning on starting post Crisis, and kind of reading through the big stories even though I know a lot of the stories and touch points.

I knew DC had some continuity nonsense, but it just seems so much harder to filter than Marvel.

Also hard to find where to fill in non Canon stuff that I might enjoy like Batman 66 and TTG.
 
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Naked Lunch

Member
So DC Universe recently came out in my region.

As someone who read a ton of Marvel growing up but never really touched DC, I have to say finding a good reading order is a monumental task in itself.

I'm planning on starting post Crisis, and kind of reading through the big stories even though I know a lot of the stories and touch points.

I knew DC had some continuity nonsense, but it just seems so much harder to filter than Marvel.

Also hard to find where to fill in non Canon stuff that I might enjoy like Batman 66 and TTG.
I was in the same boat a long while back - only a Marvel guy and dabbled in DC, it was daunting at first for sure.

Early 2000 era DC is the best of the brand imo. New 52 was mostly crap. And I hate to say it but present day DC is worthless garbage. The brand is on life support. Pretty much turned into Batman only.

Some notable 2000s DC:
-Geoff Johns' runs are really great for new readers. Flash, Hawkman, JSA, Green Lantern, Infinite Crisis. Introduces the villains just perfectly. Johns' Flash was my gateway to DC.
-Gotham Central is cant miss stuff. Its a police drama from the perspective of the cops set in the Batman Universe and Batman only appears in the background in very limited occasions. Writen by Brubaker and Rucka.
-Rucka's Wonder Woman is a classic.
-Kevin Smith's Green Arrow.
-The 52 weekly series is when DCs big 3 (batman, superman, WW) disappeared for a year. Had the best writers in comics using the lower key characters of DC. This series also taught me tons about the DCU.
-Morrison's Batman. Arguably the greatest comic run of all time. Ties in with Final Crisis. You can read this run over and over for years and still find new things.

For one off, non-canon it HAS to be Morrison's All-Star Superman. I dont even like Superman and its probably as good as comics can possibly get.

If you must start post 1980's Crisis I would recommend:
-The Crisis on Infinite Earth event itself.
-Byrne's Man of Steel/Action Comics run.
-George Perez's Wonder Woman.
-Peter David's Aquaman.
-Mark Waid's Flash.
-Morrison's JLA.
-Giffen's Lobo.
-Denny O'Neil's The Question.


For classic DC - dont forget to check out Jack Kirby's New Gods, The Losers, and Kamandi.
 
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Kagey K

Banned
I was in the same boat a long while back - only a Marvel guy and dabbled in DC, it was daunting at first for sure.

Early 2000 era DC is the best of the brand imo. New 52 was mostly crap. And I hate to say it but present day DC is worthless garbage. The brand is on life support. Pretty much turned into Batman only.

Some notable 2000s DC:
-Geoff Johns' runs are really great for new readers. Flash, Hawkman, JSA, Green Lantern, Infinite Crisis. Introduces the villains just perfectly. Johns' Flash was my gateway to DC.
-Gotham Central is cant miss stuff. Its a police drama from the perspective of the cops set in the Batman Universe and Batman only appears in the background in very limited occasions. Writen by Brubaker and Rucka.
-Rucka's Wonder Woman is a classic.
-Kevin Smith's Green Arrow.
-The 52 weekly series is when DCs big 3 (batman, superman, WW) disappeared for a year. Had the best writers in comics using the lower key characters of DC. This series also taught me tons about the DCU.
-Morrison's Batman. Arguably the greatest comic run of all time. Ties in with Final Crisis. You can read this run over and over for years and still find new things.

For one off, non-canon it HAS to be Morrison's All-Star Superman. I dont even like Superman and its probably as good as comics can possibly get.

If you must start post 1980's Crisis I would recommend:
-The Crisis on Infinite Earth event itself.
-Byrne's Man of Steel/Action Comics run.
-George Perez's Wonder Woman.
-Peter David's Aquaman.
-Mark Waid's Flash.
-Morrison's JLA.
-Giffen's Lobo.
-Denny O'Neil's The Question.


For classic DC - dont forget to check out Jack Kirby's New Gods, The Losers, and Kamandi.
I've decided to mostly follow this order as it seems to try to lay events out chronologically instead of by publication date.


We'll see how that works out or if I end up skipping ahead. I'm enjoying these year one stories so far though.
 

Naked Lunch

Member
I've decided to mostly follow this order as it seems to try to lay events out chronologically instead of by publication date.


We'll see how that works out or if I end up skipping ahead. I'm enjoying these year one stories so far though.
Ah, I gotcha. That seems pretty intense - going for everything.
Im more of a 'go for the best writers and runs' kinda reader.

Theres only certain things that need to be read to have context in my opinion - like reading the big DC events like all the Crisis events.
Also reading Kirby's New Gods before Final Crisis is pretty essential too.

Enjoy. Lots of great stories to discover.
 

Kagey K

Banned
Ah, I gotcha. That seems pretty intense - going for everything.
Im more of a 'go for the best writers and runs' kinda reader.

Theres only certain things that need to be read to have context in my opinion - like reading the big DC events like all the Crisis events.
Also reading Kirby's New Gods before Final Crisis is pretty essential too.

Enjoy. Lots of great stories to discover.
I'll definitely skip stories or series I'm not enjoying, but I want to try to give most books a fair chance before I dismiss them completely.
 

sol_bad

Member
I'm pretty excited that the DC app has launched in Australia as well. I was thinking I might go for a Batman and family complete reading order.

Kagey K Kagey K If you ever get bored with the complete reading order and want to jump to recommended reads, Naked Lunch Naked Lunch is pretty much on point. I'll just add for the New 52 era that Jeff Lemires Animal Man, Scott Snyders Swamp Thing and Batman and Geoff Johns Justice League are good reads. I found the Nightwing and Grayson books fun as well. Also readlly enjoyed Geoff Johns Green Lantern during the New 52.
The best thing is that New 52 is mostly a new continuity so you don't need all the previous history.

I haven't read modern DC but there are many people in the comic community that love it. You'll just need to find a larger community for recs. Even on Resetera they have a very active comics community so I know that's one place you can check.

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I can say that Omar on Youtube also has a very positive comic community. I pay for his Patreon to join his discord to discuss comics though. His channel is Near Mint Condition.
 
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Naked Lunch

Member
I'll just add for the New 52 era that Jeff Lemires Animal Man, Scott Snyders Swamp Thing and Batman and Geoff Johns Justice League are good reads. I found the Nightwing and Grayson books fun as well. Also readlly enjoyed Geoff Johns Green Lantern during the New 52.
The best thing is that New 52 is mostly a new continuity so you don't need all the previous history.
Yeah I didnt mean to totally crap on New 52. Im a huge fan of Azzarello's/Chiang's Wonder Woman New 52.
New 52 John's Aquaman is really good too.

Im not sure if the Australia deal also includes Vertigo - but that line has bar none produced the greatest runs in comics history.
Morrison's Doom Patrol, Animal Man, Invisibles, We3, Filth.
100 Bullets, Fables, DMZ, the original Hellblazer run, Sandman, Ex Machina, Y The Last Man, Scalped, Unknown Soldier, Northlanders, Alan Moore's and Millar's Swamp Thing runs, Preacher, Milligan's Shade the Changing Man, Transmetropolitan.

Those books are just too good!
 
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