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[MidGenRefresh]

Yeah the faces still look different to me

It's because he put makeup on for his date.

 

[kingfey]

PlayStation won’t be associated with child pedophiles the internet is a world wide thing not exclusive to PlayStation or PSN obviously Microsoft fanboys see this as a shot opportunity to a well regarded man and company.

 

[alabtrosMyster]

Wow, that's crazy.

How does the law work about that in the US? Independent groups can bring evidence to the court and it's taken as if it was done by a legitimate law enforcement member?

I don't know the law, but I don't see why the evidence was good or bad simply because who made the recording, so long as we know it has not been tampered with (like the authorities do fen time to time).

 

[MidGenRefresh]

For the record: innocent until proven guilty. But if he's guilty he can rot in hell.

 

[ManaByte]

For the record: innocent until proven guilty. But if he's guilty he can rot in hell.

The dude texted a selfie of himself and then answered his front door wearing the same shirt and glasses he was wearing in the text.

 

[MidGenRefresh]

The dude texted a selfie of himself and then answered his front door wearing the same shirt and glasses he was wearing in the text.

I didn't even watch the video to be honest. This shit should be moved to off-topic. I'm here to discuss games.

 

[GametimeUK]

"Jim Ryan: Yeah. We've got to be mindful of our responsibility to our install base. Minecraft - the demographic playing that, you know as well as I do, it's all ages but it's also very young. We have a contract with the people who go online with us, that we look after them and they are within the PlayStation curated universe. Exposing what in many cases are children to external influences we have no ability to manage or look after, it's something we have to think about very carefully."


I just find this crazy that after all this about keeping children safe on PSN and not allowing crossplay etc that the actual head of PSN looks like he is an actual predator.

 

[DrumNBassDanTTV]

I didn't even watch the video to be honest. This shit should be moved to off-topic. I'm here to discuss games.

Its related to games though, if you aint interested then don't click?

 

[Arcadialane]

A lot of people here have a very low acceptable level of evidence before they make a verdict, its kinda scary

 

[MidGenRefresh]

Its related to games though, if you aint interested then don't click?

"Related". Okay.

 

[DaGwaphics]

has he been fired yet?

Sony probably scouring every bit of information they have about/on him at this very moment, looking for anything they can use to legally justify his dismissal.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Its related to games though, if you aint interested then don't click?

It really has fuck all to do with gaming

 

[DrumNBassDanTTV]

You're usually pseudo-intellectual but I see you like to just let the mask slip every now and then

If you think the guy in the 3 pictures doesnt look the like the same person then i'm sorry but you are blind.

 

[IlGialloMondadori]

"Jim Ryan: Yeah. We've got to be mindful of our responsibility to our install base. Minecraft - the demographic playing that, you know as well as I do, it's all ages but it's also very young. We have a contract with the people who go online with us, that we look after them and they are within the PlayStation curated universe. Exposing what in many cases are children to external influences we have no ability to manage or look after, it's something we have to think about very carefully."


I just find this crazy that after all this about keeping children safe on PSN and not allowing crossplay etc that the actual head of PSN looks like he is an actual predator.

Don’t be a fuckin idiot. If it turns out Jim Ryan was hiding in the closet and enabling this, fine, otherwise how tf is he supposed to know this guy is a closet paedo?

it is absolutely fucked up though.

 

[sigmaZ]

Wait, is this some youtube guys who set this up? not the law? this is some serious stuff, they better have some solid evidence or they are gonna get sued into oblivion.

I'm sure the evidence is rock hard.

 

[DrumNBassDanTTV]

It really has fuck all to do with gaming

The fact he is senior VP of psn says otherwise soft lad, also relax, no need to get upset and swear.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

If you think the guy in the 3 pictures doesnt look the like the same person then i'm sorry but you are blind.

I'm asking for better confirmation because yeah, mistaking identities is a thing that happens.

 

[DarkestHour]

Shit is fucked up and ERA trying to protect this guy is even more fucked up.

 

[GametimeUK]

Don’t be a fuckin idiot. If it turns out Jim Ryan was hiding in the closet and enabling this, fine, otherwise how tf is he supposed to know this guy is a closet paedo?

Right, firstly why are you insulting me by calling me an idiot?
Secondly, where have I suggested that Jim Ryan was to know?

All I'm saying is I find it crazy that the reason they didn't want to do crossplay was because of child's safety on PSN, but it turns out the actual head of PSN looks like he is a predator.

I'm not placing any blame here, I'm just simply stating it's a hell of a coincidence.

 

[Zok310]

This.

It doesn't matter whar company it is, this type of social media grandstanding is never a good idea.

Jim’s comment was from a private email that leaked to the public. That email was not meant to be public information.
Some of the worst fanboys on a lot of forums are literally just revising history to fuel their imagination.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

The fact he is senior VP of psn says otherwise soft lad, also relax, no need to get upset and swear.

Do you always assume everyone who uses a potty word is upset?

Must suck being you

 

[DaGwaphics]

I'm asking for better confirmation because yeah, mistaking identities is a thing that happens.

It would be kind of amazing though, if the random guy that the identity was mistaken for had both the VPs address and was wearing the same shirt. Kismet if true.

The fact that the VP didn't question who the youtuber was looking for when he was calling for "Jeff" is also a strange coincidence.

 

[radewagon]

A lot of people here have a very low acceptable level of evidence before they make a verdict, its kinda scary

I don't think it's all that scary. The evidence that has been presented is pretty compelling. It's definitely enough for a gut reaction and comments that essentially mean nothing. Cause, y'know, as simple gaffers, we don't work for law enforcement (most of us, at least) and we have no actual control over what happens to this man or his case. I'm sure that if any of us were on a jury, we would expect more assurances that the evidence is real because at that point, our decisions would be more consequential.

That said... One has to wonder... If this is fake, to what end? Faking something like this for such a high profile individual would be very problematic for the person faking it. For that reason alone, I think it's easy to assume that the info being given is on the up and up. Hence the strong reactions.

 

[ManaByte]

It would be kind of amazing though, if the random guy that the identity was mistaken for had both the VPs address and was wearing the same shirt. Kismet if true.

 

[DrumNBassDanTTV]

I'm asking for better confirmation because yeah, mistaking identities is a thing that happens.

Yeah it does happen but seriously, you think that it's not the same guy in the 3 pictures? its 100% the same guy. On a side note to other people commenting earlier, These pedo hunting groups are doing the public a service that the police (in the uk at least) just ignore or react far too slowly to.... people trying to make out they are fake or trying to destroy some bloke high up falsely is absolute BS, many people in powerful roles do shady stuff like this, its tragic and needs weeding out, we should all be supporting the people putting themselves in potential harms way to stop these predators. Yes this group should have handled it more professionally, screaming and shouting in the street is stupid, police should have been called before that, but they still deserve more praise and support.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

It would be kind of amazing though, if the random guy that the identity was mistaken for had both the VPs address and was wearing the same shirt. Kismet if true.

The fact that the VP didn't question who the youtuber was looking for when he was calling for "Jeff" is also a strange coincidence.

Is that the VP address in the video?

 

[saintjules]

UH
OH

 

[IlGialloMondadori]

Right, firstly why are you insulting me by calling me an idiot?
Secondly, where have I suggested that Jim Ryan was to know?

All I'm saying is I find it crazy that the reason they didn't want to do crossplay was because of child's safety on PSN, but it turns out the actual head of PSN looks like he is a predator.

I'm not placing any blame here, I'm just simply stating it's a hell of a coincidence.

Sorry, my bad, you are right. There’s so much gross console warring here I’m just assuming everyone is a moron. I need to just walk away haha.

It’s definitely a messed up coincidence. Dude’s head will be rolling if it hasn’t already, and a criminal investigation launched.

 

[DarkestHour]

This would be a lot of effort to simply make up and the motive would be quite puzzling. Don't even know who this guy is.

 

[saintjules]

Jesus, those chat logs are disgusting.

 

[ZoukGalaxy]

I thought the witcher hunt season was over with Halloween ending, I was wrong apparently.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Yeah it does happen but seriously, you think that it's not the same guy in the 3 pictures? its 100% the same guy. On a side note to other people commenting earlier, These pedo hunting groups are doing the public a service that the police (in the uk at least) just ignore or react far too slowly to.... people trying to make out they are fake or trying to destroy some bloke high up falsely is absolute BS, many people in powerful roles do shady stuff like this, its tragic and needs weeding out, we should all be supporting the people putting themselves in potential harms way to stop these predators. Yes this group should have handled it more professionally, screaming and shouting in the street is stupid, police should have been called before that.

There are similarities sure. The reason I'm asking is there's an obvious age gap between the E3/LinkedIn and the video. It'd help find a more recent image of him to compare

I'm not jumping on the bandwagon of something like this until there's 100% confirmation.

 

[RoboFu]

I thought the witcher hunt season was over with Halloween ending, I was wrong apparently.

There are chat logs and pictures as well as a set up where he answered the door.

Not a witch hunt in the slightest.

 

[Arcadialane]

That said... One has to wonder... If this is fake, to what end?

Might not be entirely fake but edited, could be all real but somebody using his phone to get him in trouble, could be a lot of different things.

 

[Kagero]

I don't know why you guys are outraged. I mean it seems like a natural progression to me to go from sack boy to boy sack.

 

[ManaByte]

Might not be entirely fake but edited, could be all real but somebody using his phone to get him in trouble, could be a lot of different things.

Explain why he'd text someone a selfie of him wearing a PS5 shirt and to call him "Jeff", and then why he went out to meet someone in front of his house wearing the exact same PS5 shirt, but ran when it wasn't a 15 year old boy calling him "Jeff".

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

Might not be entirely fake but edited, could be all real but somebody using his phone to get him in trouble, could be a lot of different things.

Yes, good point. It’s highly plausible that someone stole his phone, got him to pose for a portrait in his PS5 shirt inside his house, then ran off and started texting with a fake 15 year old boy. And also…. somehow….. got him to open his door and come outside wearing the same shirt. Makes sense.

 

[nikolino840]

I don't think it's all that scary. The evidence that has been presented is pretty compelling. It's definitely enough for a gut reaction and comments that essentially mean nothing. Cause, y'know, as simple gaffers, we don't work for law enforcement (most of us, at least) and we have no actual control over what happens to this man or his case. I'm sure that if any of us were on a jury, we would expect more assurances that the evidence is real because at that point, our decisions would be more consequential.

That said... One has to wonder... If this is fake, to what end? Faking something like this for such a high profile individual would be very problematic for the person faking it. For that reason alone, I think it's easy to assume that the info being given is on the up and up. Hence the strong reactions.

Only him or everyone else busted ?

 

[Shadowstar39]

Not seeing any proof just a bunch of fools doing a witchhunt.
I don't know if dude did anything wrong and neither do you. There is no proof in this post and until i see some evidence, i won't be swayed.
Even then its not my job, its the courts which it looks like aren't involved...just some dude yelling at house.. lol.

If he is guilty, then yeah throw away the key, but not without fair trial, not trail by social media.

 

[ManaByte]

Not seeing any proof just a bunch of fools doing a witchhunt.
I don't know if dude did anything wrong and neither do you. There is no proof in this post and until i see some evidence, i won't be swayed.
Even then its not my job, its the courts which it looks like aren't involved...just some dude yelling at house.. lol.

If he is guilty, then yeah throw away the key, but not without fair trial, not trail by social media.

Hey kids, this is what not reading the thread looks like. They have Grindr chats (complete with a dick pic), texts, a selfie of him, and then VIDEO of him answering his door dressed exactly what he looked like in the selfie.

 

[Clear]

Isnt what this rich people use to their advantage?

Laws are there to protect those rich people. Its not for us for poor people, who have hard time paying a good lawyer.

While the evidence is clear in this case, what you said at the end could be used against those people. Trespassing, impersonating and all other kinda of loopholes, which these bastards can take advantage of.

In the end lawyers are what protects these people. Its why Activision case took too long.

This point is easy field day for lawyers.

The thing for me is that originally the model was for investigative journalism. So, say some politician has some sort of rumoured corruption, putting someone undercover to find out whether they have their hand in the cookie-jar is right and proper. That said, the key thing is what is supposed to happen next. The reporter returns with their story to their editor, producer whatever who then kicks the tyres (legally speaking) to see if its safe to publish. Once it goes public, then an actual enquiry can be started because there's essentially not just public interest, but a trail of evidence -likely backed up with supplementary discoveries- for the appropriate authorities to work with.

So, when we're talking about internet "exposure" squads who go straight to social media with their findings, we're looking at an equivalent with potentially a lot fewer checks and balances. I'm not saying it can't be done properly, but let's be honest who knows how diligent these guys were.

The Activision thing seems wholly dissimilar to me, as much as anything as we're talking about an organization being investigated for a pattern of abuses. Which means that every detail counts towards producing the narrative that there's something deeply rotten systemically. Obviously this means that many of those details may be distasteful, but not rise to the level of anything legally punishable and yet still get prominence in coverage.

Doing something tacky like calling your party space "the cosby suite" isn't illegal in any way, shape, or form. How "bad" or "tolerable" it is to the employer depends somewhat on proximity or the perception of such (was it on the premises, during standard business hours, etc). Soliciting a minor for sex is however a whole other thing because irrespective or where or when the act occurred, that's straight-up criminal and time and place really don't enter into it.

 

[Arcadialane]

Yes, good point. It’s highly plausible that someone stole his phone, got him to pose for a portrait in his PS5 shirt inside his house, then ran off and started texting with a fake 15 year old boy. And also…. somehow….. got him to open his door and come outside wearing the

If you had his phone the picture could have been on there already, there's no proof its a new photo,

Also answering your door isnt a crime and doesn't mean anything

 

[WoodyStare]

I’m going to hell for laughing at some of the jokes in this thread.

 

[ManaByte]

If you had his phone the picture could have been on there already, there's no proof its a new photo,

Also answering your door isnt a crime and doesn't mean anything

He answered the door looking exactly as he did in the selfie with the same PS5 T-shirt on, meaning he took that selfie not long before they went to his house to meet him.

 

[Shadowstar39]

Lmao someone string him up, sick fuck

You abused my son, lets string you up... See what i did there. Zero proof. Stop witch hunting because you hate company x or want to ruin peoples lives.
If dude really did something let the cops and the courts sort it out.

Shit I swear people here are just as bad as some sjws and reee when it comes to evidence and witch hunts, cancel culture etc...

Some dude yelling at a house is not proof of shit.

 

[RoboFu]

I don’t know what’s worse in this thread.. fanboys hand waving the overwhelming evidence or the few who seems to need to be on a list themselves defending pedos.

 

[ManaByte]

Zero proof.

What kind of proof do you need? 8K 120fps video of him sucking off a 15 year old?

 

[Arcadialane]

meaning he took that selfie not long before they went to his house to meet him.

Can you prove that

 

[RoboFu]

Can you prove that

we don’t have to that pedo hunting group already has.

 

[ManaByte]

Can you prove that

He is wearing the exact same glasses and T-shirt in the selfie as he is when he opens the door.