• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.

PS5 owner: I just bought a Xbox Series X - I'm very impressed

Data Ghost

Member
I bought both the Series X and PS5 at launch and have no bias towards either company other than my own personal feelings. For me the Series X is my go to machine for everything other than PS exclusives without question. That’s not to say I don’t love the PS5, I do. And while playing games like Miles Morales and Rift Apart I am reminded why PS is so successful. However if I could only keep one console it would be the Series X, I wouldn’t even need to think about it.

All that said, if you can afford to be a multi platform gamer it really is the way to go. I have owned every console since the Sega Megadrive, even the obscure ones like the Jaguar and 3DO. Every console had that special something of its own.
 

JLB

Banned
I bought both the Series X and PS5 at launch and have no bias towards either company other than my own personal feelings. For me the Series X is my go to machine for everything other than PS exclusives without question. That’s not to say I don’t love the PS5, I do. And while playing games like Miles Morales and Rift Apart I am reminded why PS is so successful. However if I could only keep one console it would be the Series X, I wouldn’t even need to think about it.

All that said, if you can afford to be a multi platform gamer it really is the way to go. I have owned every console since the Sega Megadrive, even the obscure ones like the Jaguar and 3DO. Every console had that special something of its own.

The "special something" in Jaguars' case :p

atari-jaguar-powerpad-standard-controller_1.jpg
 

BlackTron

Member
Very clearly commenting on the controller that came with my new purchase.

It's an added cost to a controller that only makes it a perishable product. I'd prefer they give me the option to figure out how I want to power the thing while lowering the production cost and increasing longevity. That 15 bucks would be better off going into the console.

Remember your new purchase has better specs than a PS5 yet costs the same amount. They should shave off as much optional, easy to upgrade stuff they can out of the initial purchase to make the box better. Some of us already have rechargeable AA batteries we use for everything else and would prefer not to pay for something we neither want nor need. Options are good.

You are right it is preference but it's hard not to see it as just being mad that what you need is not included with the initial purchase. Which I'm glad they didn't for reasons stated above.
 

Superwave

Banned
Closed minded are we? I have a pair of 2800mAh batteries that each last several times longer than the PS5 controller built in battery and if that wasn't enough injury, lets add insult by having the extra pair swapped in seconds when needed as opposed to having to charge the whole damn controller. So I send it right back, imagine charging controllers like some 20th century person instead of swapping in freshly charged and longer lasting batteries lol.
Never had a PS3, PS4 or of course a PS5 controller's battery die on me.

A phone would benefit from having swappable batteries, cause that's alike a necessity that leaves the house, a game controller not so much. I doubt you'd want to have to remove your phone battery to charge it every time. If this is good enough for a phone it's more than good enough for a control pad.
 

Boss Mog

Member
One thing I absolutely loved about the Series X was the stickers MS used to seal the box. They have tabs to be able to remove them easily and they came off comfortably without damaging the box or leaving a sticky residue. I'm dead serious when I'm saying that I was blown away. I want all boxes sealed with those stickers from now on.
 
Last edited:

JackMcGunns

Member
Never had a PS3, PS4 or of course a PS5 controller's battery die on me.

A phone would benefit from having swappable batteries, cause that's alike a necessity that leaves the house, a game controller not so much. I doubt you'd want to have to remove your phone battery to charge it every time. If this is good enough for a phone it's more than good enough for a control pad.


PS4 controller never died on you? are you kidding me, did you have a cable tethered to it, because my PS4 controller had the worst battery in the history of my console wireless controllers.


Also, you're saying options are worse?
 

RPS37

Member
I bought both the Series X and PS5 at launch and have no bias towards either company other than my own personal feelings. For me the Series X is my go to machine for everything other than PS exclusives without question. That’s not to say I don’t love the PS5, I do. And while playing games like Miles Morales and Rift Apart I am reminded why PS is so successful. However if I could only keep one console it would be the Series X, I wouldn’t even need to think about it.

All that said, if you can afford to be a multi platform gamer it really is the way to go.
my feelings exactly.
 
You can buy a rechargeable battery for them. I have one in each of my controllers. Better than going through AAs.
why not just buy rechargeable AAs? e.g., panasonic eneloop.

youll need AAs for other things.

edit: ehh people've already said this. sorry. waste of a post.
 
Last edited:

Excess

Member
Just a reminder to the many who never owned a Xbox One or Xbox One X, but both were dead silent under load. The original One had a 120mm fan that ran at low RPM exhausting out the top. (I actually modded mine with a Noctua fan to eliminate the ball bearing sound) Whereas, the XB1X had a traditional styled centrifugal fan layout with vapor chamber heatsinks that exhausted from the rear, which also amazingly ran dead silent under full load. With the Series X, it appears they went back to the original design of using one large fan to exhaust from the top, except the form factor is different.

If you ask me, the One X is still the most power efficient, minimalist, and aesthetically pleasing designs I ever liked since the PS2 and PS4. It just looks so good underneath the TV, and it could be stood upright or horizontal.

iu
 

JLB

Banned
Just a reminder to the many who never owned a Xbox One or Xbox One X, but both were dead silent under load. The original One had a 120mm fan that ran at low RPM exhausting out the top. (I actually modded mine with a Noctua fan to eliminate the ball bearing sound) Whereas, the XB1X had a traditional styled centrifugal fan layout with vapor chamber heatsinks that exhausted from the rear, which also amazingly ran dead silent under full load. With the Series X, it appears they went back to the original design of using one large fan to exhaust from the top, except the form factor is different.

If you ask me, the One X is still the most power efficient, minimalist, and aesthetically pleasing designs I ever liked since the PS2 and PS4. It just looks so good underneath the TV, and it could be stood upright or horizontal.

iu

Yeap, agree. For me, from an aesthetics point of view is the successor of the regular PS2, the most beautiful console ever created IMO.
 
I too want to buy a Series X but there are no games right now. I got burned this year by buying a PS5, one year later still not a single game worth playing, so I won’t do that again.
 

mili2110

Member
I too want to buy a Series X but there are no games right now. I got burned this year by buying a PS5, one year later still not a single game worth playing, so I won’t do that again.
Forza Horizon 5, Halo Infinite, Flight Sim (not my cup of tea), Psychonauts 2, Gears 5 all the free Gamepass Games (The Ascent, Back4Blood, Hades, Mortal Shell, It takes two, Yakuza like a Dragon etc. Im playing through Halo MCC as we speak. I got only Halo Reach left. I think I got 10+ games installed that I still need to play. Also bought the IKEA battery charger + IKEA 2450mh AA batteries. I love em.
 

GymWolf

Member
Not hard to believe, between faulty rest mode, OS getting confused when you play a game that is also on ps4, slow ass copy from disk, vastly inferior BC, and gimmicky controller with the usual shitty battery life, i fail to see something where ps5 is better than sex except games output (and that is a matter of taste).

If the situation with the gpu prices doesn't get better in the next 1-2 years, i'm probably gonna buy a sex myself for all the multy titles.
 
Last edited:

oldergamer

Member
Not hard to believe, between faulty rest mode, OS getting confused when you play a game that is also on ps4, slow ass copy from disk, vastly inferior BC, and gimmicky controller with the usual shitty battery life, i fail to see something where ps5 is better than sex except games output (and that is a matter of taste).

If the situation with the gpu prices doesn't get better in the next 1-2 years, i'm probably gonna buy a sex myself for all the multy titles.
Gpu prices wont be coming down unless covid is gone
 

GymWolf

Member
Gpu prices wont be coming down unless covid is gone
Gpu prices were already kinda bullshit before covid.

And even without covid, nvidia now know that they can price their gpu as they want and they are still gonna sell everything they produce.

Not sure if covid disappearing is gonna fix anything...
 

GreyHand23

Member
For most people with two controllers, battery life is never an issue with the dual sense and now that I have a XSX as well I can confirm that the regular controller does feel “dead.” I’m getting used to it, but I have an Elite 2 coming in. The Xbox interface is more confusing to start out, but also more customizable. Game pass is legitimately awesome, but I have to agree that with the exception of Forza, the PlayStation exclusives are extremely strong and that’s the main reason why I’ll keep both. I’ll use Xbox for game pass and warzone, and evaluate 3rd party games on a case by case basis because I really do love the dual sense haptics and triggers.

I really love how much you can change about your video and audio settings on the XSX and how much information it gives you about your tv. Definitely gonna get a new tv next year so I can take advantage of even more of the features.
 
Last edited:

ManaByte

Member
Gpu prices wont be coming down unless covid is gone

The semiconductor shortage wasn't caused by COVID. Taiwan, where TSMC is located, has been experiencing a 50-year drought. COVID might have amplified the problems, but they weren't CAUSED by COVID, and now TSMC is building a plant to produce chips in the US:

Most of TSMC’s 12 fabs are in Taiwan and China, leaving the world vulnerable to potential slowdowns from natural disasters, including the current drought there, or the geopolitical tensions of the region.
 

MOTM

Banned
Just a reminder to the many who never owned a Xbox One or Xbox One X, but both were dead silent under load. The original One had a 120mm fan that ran at low RPM exhausting out the top. (I actually modded mine with a Noctua fan to eliminate the ball bearing sound) Whereas, the XB1X had a traditional styled centrifugal fan layout with vapor chamber heatsinks that exhausted from the rear, which also amazingly ran dead silent under full load. With the Series X, it appears they went back to the original design of using one large fan to exhaust from the top, except the form factor is different.

If you ask me, the One X is still the most power efficient, minimalist, and aesthetically pleasing designs I ever liked since the PS2 and PS4. It just looks so good underneath the TV, and it could be stood upright or horizontal.

iu
Absolutely underrated design for sure.
 

Fredrik

Member
In the end they are pretty much the same console.

It was that way for 20 years now.
Agreed. I have both because I need both to play the exclusives, if I could I would’ve only owned one but it is what it is.

Fortunately they complement each other well with the offsync 1st party game releases. XSX had a slow start of the year and PS5 was on fire. PS5 has had a slow second half of 2021 and XSX has been on fire. Start of 2022 looks to be better on PS5. And late 2022 we get Starfield on XSX.
 

Mobilemofo

Member
Was offered a xbox X yesterday for £350. Even at that price, i dont wanna get back into xbox. Already balls deep in the ps ecosystem
 
Was offered a xbox X yesterday for £350. Even at that price, i dont wanna get back into xbox. Already balls deep in the ps ecosystem
Same here. Im very happy with my PS5 i dont need a console that does the same but worse in many cases. And dont make me even start about exclusives...
 

Fredrik

Member
That’s a bargain price for the unicorn that is the series x.

great console and gamepass is awesome for this dry first year.
Gamepass is the system seller for sure. I have bought zero games on XSX so far, yet it’s where I play the most. For comparison I’ve bought 4 games on PS5 and with that payed more than for everything MS will release on Gamepass til 2024.
 

rofif

Can’t Git Gud
Never had a PS3, PS4 or of course a PS5 controller's battery die on me.

A phone would benefit from having swappable batteries, cause that's alike a necessity that leaves the house, a game controller not so much. I doubt you'd want to have to remove your phone battery to charge it every time. If this is good enough for a phone it's more than good enough for a control pad.
like... how close minded can you get ?
It IS A FACT that lithium battery WILL DIE.
It will either loose capacity or straight out inflate like most. It's just a matter of time.
It does not care if you use it, charge often or not.
It is 100% guarantee that in years, all ps3, ps4 and ps5 controllers will at the very least loose capacity.

You say - not a big deal, my phone lasts 2 years.... and it looses 20-30% of it's capacity in these 2 years. Controller is a little better because it charges slower. But if they will bring fast charging to controllers, it's game over.

And You might not be able to source completely "NEW" dualsense battery in 20 years. There might be old stock batteries... which lost capacity in warehouses. Or there might be chineese knock offs... or there might not be anything.
Even if YOu are happy to open your controller.

And at the same time - You will be able to just take out your xbox series x 20th anniversary controller on xbox 50th anniversary, put some new AA bitches in there and go.

There are absolutely no drawbacks to AA powered controllers:
-You can use AA batteries
-AA batteries have higher capacity than internal ones. Xbox pads last me 40 hours. ps4 and dualsense up to 8. Cheap ikea pack got me covered for months
-You can use rechargables
-You can use official plug play battery pack to convert it into rechargeable controllers

You have all the choice in the world. And with Dualsense You have no choice. It have a terrible battery today. So imagine in 10 years.
Of course that is all in theory as my 360 controllers still work great ... except rubber just disintegrating on analog sticks

edit: And about your terrible phone comparison - cmon. You never had to take out the battery to charge it outside the phone lol. You had the option to do so and it was great. You could have 2 batteries and quick swap on a trip
 
Last edited:
So now options aren’t good anymore and you’ll be playing hellblade 2 without headphones? Got it
Dude, i said i have no clue about headphones and expansions so i don't have to say anything about it. If you say there are more options then it's good. I don't even own a headphone except some old 1 ear/mic crap from the One or 360.
 

MikeM

Member
I too want to buy a Series X but there are no games right now. I got burned this year by buying a PS5, one year later still not a single game worth playing, so I won’t do that again.
Are you sure this is the hobby for you? Plenty of fantastic games have come out in year 1 of these systems.
 

FrankWza

Member
Dude, i said i have no clue about headphones and expansions so i don't have to say anything about it. If you say there are more options then it's good. I don't even own a headphone except some old 1 ear/mic crap from the One or 360.
But if options are good, then they’re good. Your level of importance doesn’t cover other people’s preferences. I’d rather have comfortable headphones or a headset of my choosing over the ability to swap a battery on my controller on the fly. If you only have 1 dualsense, you can always just buy a portable charger or a dualsense external battery pack for $15 that doubles battery life. Headphones and storage expansion are far more important to more people than using an “akku”
 
But if options are good, then they’re good. Your level of importance doesn’t cover other people’s preferences. I’d rather have comfortable headphones or a headset of my choosing over the ability to swap a battery on my controller on the fly. If you only have 1 dualsense, you can always just buy a portable charger or a dualsense external battery pack for $15 that doubles battery life. Headphones and storage expansion are far more important to more people than using an “akku”
That's great for you, but talking with me about headphones or epxanions is like talking with my girlfriend about engines. I don't give a shit about headphones/expanions and have absolutely no clue. Like i said, if you say they have more options, then that's good. But i was talking with a guy about akkus "Imagine having to change batteries like some 20th century person". If you want to talk about headphones/expanions you better look for another person.
 

FrankWza

Member
That's great for you, but talking with me about headphones or epxanions is like talking with my girlfriend about engines. I don't give a shit about headphones/expanions and have absolutely no clue. Like i said, if you say they have more options, then that's good. But i was talking with a guy about akkus "Imagine having to change batteries like some 20th century person". If you want to talk about headphones/expanions you better look for another person.
I don’t want to talk about headphones or expansion, you made the options are good comment to form a positive on the controller side vs the dualsense. Again, my preference and your preference aside, headphones/headset and storage expansion are features that more people that play games are interested in than a battery pack for a controller. My point is, if we’re speaking in terms of options, then those options and having those options with more choices are far more important to more people. And there are dualsense battery packs as well. They’re all over Amazon for $15. Yet another option.
But it is a shame that if you do decide to play hellblade, you won’t experience the best part of the game and the way the developers intended for it to be played.
 
I don’t want to talk about headphones or expansion, you made the options are good comment to form a positive on the controller side vs the dualsense. Again, my preference and your preference aside, headphones/headset and storage expansion are features that more people that play games are interested in than a battery pack for a controller. My point is, if we’re speaking in terms of options, then those options and having those options with more choices are far more important to more people. And there are dualsense battery packs as well. They’re all over Amazon for $15. Yet another option.
But it is a shame that if you do decide to play hellblade, you won’t experience the best part of the game and the way the developers intended for it to be played.
Speaking of options Frank let's talk about digital game distribution on PlayStation. Sony is the sole source for purchasing digital PlayStation games but Xbox digital games can be bought at brick and mortar stores, online retailers and MS themselves. If you are going to knock Xbox for its lack of options on headsets and storage are you equally as outraged on lack of digital game purchase options on PlayStation? People could potentially get by without the storage but most plan to buy games right Frank?
 

FrankWza

Member
Speaking of options Frank let's talk about digital game distribution on PlayStation. Sony is the sole source for purchasing digital PlayStation games but Xbox digital games can be bought at brick and mortar stores, online retailers and MS themselves. If you are going to knock Xbox for its lack of options on headsets and storage are you equally as outraged on lack of digital game purchase options on PlayStation? People could potentially get by without the storage but most plan to buy games right Frank?
Ridiculous point. You can buy physical games and PSN cards to redeem on games at any of those same places. If you’re not copy/pasting your standard series s defense paragraphs you really don’t have much to add huh?
 

Jigsaah

Gold Member
I too want to buy a Series X but there are no games right now. I got burned this year by buying a PS5, one year later still not a single game worth playing, so I won’t do that again.
You don't like Halo, Forza Horizon, Ratchet and Clank, Demon's Souls, Returnal...or no 3rd party games? Like...NONE?

What kinda games do you like?
 
Last edited:

PaintTinJr

Member
I got to try an XSX for the first time today - with the usual suspects, the new Forza and Halo, and a few other gamepass games, got to use the logitech wheel with Forza too - and I had fun gaming with my mate.

We still finished the day with some Smash Bros on Switch and my general impression was that if it was all I had, and all I had experienced then I wouldn't have been disappointed. But owning a PC, PS5 and Switch, I didn't leave with any more momentum to buy an XsX than I had before trying it, and the same for gamepass. The console did seem quiet, but nothing I saw really suggested it should be struggling - given the technical specs.

Halo was fun, but the 120hz mode didn't feel like 120 double buffered, it felt more like triple buffered, and the same with the other mode in Halo and modes in Forza going by experiences with idTech's frame-rates in double buffered mode.
 

RGB'D

Member
That's super subjective in many items though whereas the other list is actual features...

You are on the money though, it's preference. I preferred to get both, but it's about 95% Series X in usage terms for me. For me, better hardware, more useful features, games that I prefer and the killer app - Gamepass - mean it's not even a contest right now. In value terms there's no argument for me, especially as Sony have gone a little insane with their pricing this gen. Hopefully Sony can find some games and services to get me using the PS5 more next year, and come to their senses on price. I want to play Ghost of Tsushima but Sony's stupid practise of charging me for the PS5 upgrade means the PS4 version is just sitting there unplayed on principle (I bought it on PS4 but waited for PS5 to play it - still waiting, and will keep waiting until they give it away free or I can get the DC for $10).
You can play the PS4 version on your PS5 which updated it to 60fps which was nice. That's said I soured on GOT around 20-25 hours in and have never had a desire to go back. Some people love it though
 
Last edited:
Ridiculous point. You can buy physical games and PSN cards to redeem on games at any of those same places. If you’re not copy/pasting your standard series s defense paragraphs you really don’t have much to add huh?
The ridiculous point is to attack Xbox for lacking options when there is lack of several options elsewhere. As far as I know you can't even gift someone a digital title on PlayStation and you attack Xbox for a lack of options? Funny stuff. Redeeming cards indicates you still have to rely on Sony for the digital purchase. The same thing exists on Xbox only you can purchase actual digital games in multiple places. There is no competition in Sony's ecosystem. That's why they are getting sued.


You attack me for defending the value of a platform against asinine attacks yet you defend this?

You know what else is a nice option? Being able to pop in a game you bought 10 years ago and being able to play it without having to repurchase it from Sony exclusively. I'm sure you'll grab those pitchforks and head to Sony HQ right Frank? You are about options after all.
 

FrankWza

Member
The ridiculous point is to attack Xbox for lacking options when there is lack of several options elsewhere. As far as I know you can't even gift someone a digital title on PlayStation and you attack Xbox for a lack of options? Funny stuff. Redeeming cards indicates you still have to rely on Sony for the digital purchase. The same thing exists on Xbox only you can purchase actual digital games in multiple places. There is no competition in Sony's ecosystem. That's why they are getting sued.


You attack me for defending the value of a platform against asinine attacks yet you defend this?

You know what else is a nice option? Being able to pop in a game you bought 10 years ago and being able to play it without having to repurchase it from Sony exclusively. I'm sure you'll grab those pitchforks and head to Sony HQ right Frank? You are about options after all.
GIF by Originals
 
You can play the PS4 version on your PS5 which updated it to 60fps which was nice.
Yeah, I know, but it will bother me that I’m playing the inferior version. Come on Sony, I bought your game, and I bought your PS5 - I shouldn’t have to pay again to play the PS5 version on the PS5. And I won’t. That said, I’m even willing to buy your DLC if it includes the upgrade for the same price without the $10 PS5 tax…

I have enough other things to play to not have to settle. And I realise I lose in the short term, because I actually bought the game, but long term, it just amplifies my ‘get fucked’ feelings towards Sony a little more lol.

I’m sure they’ll magically become consumer friendly again if they ever get knocked off their pedestal though. But will we fall for it?
 
Last edited:
Top Bottom