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VFXVeteran
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Tech is tech. And when you 'eventually' see the proper lighting for hair with a proper shader, you'll call R&C fur shit too.Sorry, I don't judge my eyes with hyperbole statements based on source code.
Shit looks good. Not horrendous, bEcAuSe oF tHe cOdE.
I've waited for years for people to finally see what's good lighting/shading. We finally have RT lighting. I can wait a little more for the quality bar to be raised and R&C will be old news..
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Finally admitting that R&C is currently holding the quality bar high!
VFXVeteran
Banned
No. Only recognizing that the people who think R&C are the top dawgs don't know what good lighting/shading looks like.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Doesn't make it hOrReNdOuS, but do your royal you, playa!
It's shit like this, and you wonder why. Talking down to people and hyperbole doesn't get your point across.
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dcmk7
Banned
I mean.. what difference does it make? It means twice as much as nothing at all. Not worth getting triggered about.
Pedro Motta
Member
Are you seriously comparing offline rendering to realtime rendering?
dcmk7
Banned
The very first Pixar quality game is probably going to be noteworthy for quite a while tbf.
Sosokrates
Report me if I continue to console war
Apollo Helios
Member
You are a certified clown comparing latest and the best realtime rendering to offline rendering. No wonder people don't take you seriously here.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
You wouldn't know good lighting if I shined 1300 lumens with 50K candela right into your head balls!
Sleepwalker
Gold Member
Just here to say Metro sucks ass and no amount of ray tracing will change that.
SLB1904
Banned
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Wait does heads are supposed to have balls?...Shit mine are between my legs.
Are we supposed to look like this ?
dcmk7
Banned
It's being judged on a technical scale, it's RT implementation far from sucks tbf.
But agree on a gameplay level it isn't the best.
dcmk7
Banned
SLB1904
Banned
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
Then show a game with better fur.
ethomaz
Banned
There is nothing like R&C right now...
It is obvious we will see better things in the future... dammm.
And for reference games don't take a day to render a scene.
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In the past people looked at Lara Crofts triangle tits and thought they looked "real", although knowing what real tits looked like...
Sure, in the future there will be better looking games and fur (maybe R&C on PS6...), but as you admitted, currently it's the game to match.
JTCx
Member
ZywyPL
Banned
Solid list, pretty much obvious contenders given there weren't many high budget titles released this year, same games appear you n every tech list, love to see The Ascent getting deserved recognition.
FS2020: Director's Cut
FS2020: Director's Cut
Edgelord79
Gold Member
Kena should get on here somewhere.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
I hate this gif so much. It's somehow even worse than the real version
Gameplaylover
Member
Serious question to the professional: Is it easier for Pixar/cartoon like games to look good or do non Pros just think it looks better? Recently played the 12 year old Toy Story 3 and man it still looks really good compared to Mass Effect 2 and others.
Once again, you made a fool of yourself. God
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
It's about all devices games.
Did you think PC or portables could match his 2021 picks?
2022 will be closer as XSX has current gen only games that are also coming to PC.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
The CURRENT gen upgrades came in 2021
The INDUSTRY disagrees with you
The gap will widen because these consoles eventually will stop supporting last gen tech.
VFXVeteran
Banned
Not trying to down talk at all. Many people thought GI probe lighting looked good enough when it wasn't. Now that people see RT lighting and what a properly lit scene should look like - people are all over it and know what the difference is. If you never know a better algorithm, then of course you will think what is being shown is the best there is. Once changes happen that move towards CG algorithms and looks, then people can finally see the difference.
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Hobbygaming
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VFXVeteran
Banned
Why is it that everyone can compare a game like R&C to Pixar movies (which is CG) freely without being dragged in the mud for doing so, but when I compare it to CG, I am being silly?
VFXVeteran
Banned
It's very easy for these games to match the color saturation and look of early Pixar films - until Lightyear get's released. Lightyear moves away from the cartoony look and focuses on a much more photoreal color palette.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Ratchet looks spectacular in both gameplay and in realtime cutscenes.
Gameplay
Cutscene
Gameplay
Cutscene
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Rachet & Clank RA actually looks comparable to the R & C movie.
Thinking of Riky crying made me cry
Wait, you want to tell me, that Riky is able to show more emotions outside of Laughing and Triggered?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
That is a normal thought process though. We all thought DOOM and the first 3D games were as good as it gets. Even thought Genesis era was as good as it gets. If you went back in time and brought a game from today to 1988, we would not believe our eyes.
We are not discussing what is better, but choice words like, horrendous. For now, in the gaming arena, there is nothing really better (the fur) and it looks great, especially when water droplets tesselate each spot it hits, as algorithms mature and they find better ways, it will of course evolve. Nobody is arguing that, it is common sense.
People mainly do it as a playful joke, I wager. You do it in a way with a hate boner for Sony fans. You've admitted this yourself countless times on here.
Remember, the Pixar5 Gaf meme didn't start until after you kept becoming a parody of yourself with only comparing Sony 1st party to offline rendering with disdain.
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GymWolf
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VFXVeteran
Banned
The fur disappears in gameplay. It's quite noticeable.Ratchet looks spectacular in both gameplay and in realtime cutscenes.
Gameplay
Cutscene
SLB1904
Banned
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
I would say Shaderhacker needs another vacation but his salt is to much to pass up seeing.
just a quick screenshot from youtube.
noticeable is your salt
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Gameplaylover
Member
Thank you.
GymWolf
Member
It doesn't (but you can point out how the rtx reflection is low quality compared to the real model i guess)
OMG you are right!
This is what I see when I zoom in on the gameplay screenshot. Quite noticeable indeed!
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GHG
Gold Member
Maybe at 1080p.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Looked through my screens.
First one is gameplay, 2nd one is cutscene. There is clearly a fur in both.
Maybe you need a bigger screen or sit closer
