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Gran Turismo 7 set to launch with an install of 110GB (PS4) / 90GB (PS5)

SLB1904

Banned
GT Sport was released in 2017, so PD have had a good 4-5 years dev time on this one, so I’m not worried that it’ll be anything less than a great GT game. Even without a proper career, I have spent more hours on GT Sport than any other racer in the last 5 years.
I play more gt sport than any racing game ever. I'm not going back to single player racing games
 

Airbus Jr

Banned
https://www.aroged.com/2022/01/23/g...ystation-exclusive-ever-with-110gb-at-launch/

Largest PS5 exclusive launch title to date (capacity wise).

Polyphony Digital obviously loves cars and racing, but I've always wondered if game development has passed them by. If GT7 doesn't return Polyphony Digital towards the top of SIE, I think it might be time to put them out to pasture and maybe create a new team for Gran Turismo. I don't mean to be hyperbolic in saying that. SIE has evolved from the late 90s and early 2000s and that evolution has entirely happened without Japanese studios. I hope Polyphony Digital can make that jump, but nothing they've done in the last decade tells me that they can.

This game is going to tell us a lot about them as game developers and not just racing game developers. I had hoped for a 120hz mode, but it doesn't look like that is in the cards for this game, maybe down the road or GT8. I think a lot of these features that were discussed will end up in GT8, 120hz, VR e.t.c. But I'm more concerned with whether they make a competent game worth 70 dollars:
  • Do they finally eliminate load times with the PS5s SSD
  • With the game taking up 110GB is the game just loaded or did they not make great use of the Kraken compression. Will be interested to see the PS4 size compared to the PS5 size.
  • This is probably the most ambitious Gran Turismo game ever released (and in my opinion maybe for the wrong reasons).
    • You have a PS5 version, a PS4 Pro version, and a PS4 version.
    • Can't wait to see what Digital Foundry says about the performance across these 3 models.
  • There was talk of a GT7 Beta around 6 months ago, but I haven't heard any evidence that any Beta took place. To release a game this size without a beta just seems pretty daft. Obviously, there is time before release, but it's surprising to not have anything at this point and a competent developer should realize that. For such an ambitious game to not have beta tests is just asking for early trouble.
    • The lack of even an early access release is worrisome.
Aside from the technical aspect, it'll be interesting to see how they tackle some of the series other historic criticisms around sound, damage, and menus.
Whats with the clown post here..absolutely ridiculous...

Are you for real man hahaha...surely you can wait before the game released before making such ridiculous claim...
 
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adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Months and months of low Kraken install sizes, and then Horizon and GT7 hit:
chris farley what the fuck GIF

What's the opposite of the "Release the Kraken" meme ?

Bequeath the Kraken ? :messenger_beaming:
 

SSfox

Member
Gotta admit if you didn't expand you PS5 Storage it's starting to seriously sucks tbh lol

That being said this game is gonna be phenomenal without the doubt.
 

adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
So this guy is missleading/spreading lies right?

Which guy ?

To be fair to OP, the 110 GB was mentioned on PS's website, and the size tweet your quoted post mentions "without day 1 patch". These days, we often get 10~20GB day 1 patches so it won't be surprising if the final install size on day 1 is 100GB+.


Below image is from Reddit :

gran-turismo-7-file-size.png
 
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ZywyPL

Banned
Either they didn't bother with Kraken since it's a cross-gen title and they just left everything as it is (for PS4), or the game is just that loaded with content. If neither of the two then yeah, it'll put them in a bad shade as a developer.

As for the 120Hz, Kaz talkeb about high framerate on PS5 in an interwiew some time ago, he even mentioned 240FPS but I think it's safe to say that one is off the radar, but 120FPS at lowered resolution should be doable.
 

ethomaz

Banned
Which guy ?

To be fair to OP, the 110 GB was mentioned on PS's website, and the size tweet your quoted post mentions "without day 1 patch". These days, we often get 10~20GB day 1 patches so it won't be surprising if the final install size on day 1 is 100GB+.


Below image is from Reddit :

gran-turismo-7-file-size.png
Day one patch can increase the size of the game if there is new content, modes, etc.
If it is most bug fix the size remain around the same.
 

adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Day one patch can increase the size of the game if there is new content, modes, etc.
If it is most bug fix the size remain around the same.

Honestly I wouldn't put anything past developers in this day and age lol.

Square Enix withheld the entire ending to KH3 without the day 1 patch. Anything's possible.
 

ethomaz

Banned
* Without the day 1 patch.
There is no day 1 patch in Sony server yet.
And day 1 patches doesn’t necessary increase the game size… bug fix only just replace the files and maintain around the same size.

Now if there is new content like a new track or mode in the patch then the size increases… new modes not so much but new cars and tracks the increase is not small due the new assets.
 
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Bo_Hazem

Banned
Either they didn't bother with Kraken since it's a cross-gen title and they just left everything as it is (for PS4), or the game is just that loaded with content. If neither of the two then yeah, it'll put them in a bad shade as a developer.

As for the 120Hz, Kaz talkeb about high framerate on PS5 in an interwiew some time ago, he even mentioned 240FPS but I think it's safe to say that one is off the radar, but 120FPS at lowered resolution should be doable.

Kraken is licensed for both PS4 and PS5. It's much faster and better than ZLIB even without a dedicated HW decompressor.
 
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DenchDeckard

Moderated wildly
Kraken is putting in work on these two big first party games from Sony this year.......

...still big sizes. Edited as its not actually terrible just seems to be the norm for games.

Hopefully Should all be sorted once cross gen buggers off.
 
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Rudius

Member
GT Sport is already that size. It's probably using better compression, since it will have all the content of Sport with larger textures on PS5.
 

SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
Either they didn't bother with Kraken since it's a cross-gen title and they just left everything as it is (for PS4), or the game is just that loaded with content. If neither of the two then yeah, it'll put them in a bad shade as a developer.

As for the 120Hz, Kaz talkeb about high framerate on PS5 in an interwiew some time ago, he even mentioned 240FPS but I think it's safe to say that one is off the radar, but 120FPS at lowered resolution should be doable.
99% of the games released on PS5 are cross gen and a lot of them used kraken to reduce file sizes. Control, Guardians even Avengers all got substantial reductions in size.

This is just another case of sony devs not bothering to utilize the ps5 io. Horizon 2 is 100 GB. TLOU2 takes up 77 GB on my PS5 in BC mode and couldve gotten a substantial size reduction if they had bothered to release a PS5 sku but they didnt. Even a 4 person team from immortal shells was able to create a PS5 sku.

Not having 120 fps in the 2nd year of this gen is just lazy. Especially in a 60 fps ps4 racing game. they shouldnt even have to reduce the resolution since PS4 Pro already runs it at 60 fps 4kcb. With a 2.5x faster GPU, 2x more RAM bandwidth. 8x more powerful CPU, it should just work. It really makes no sense why PD is so inefficient. they only have 170 employees so maybe they are just too small for modern day AAA dev but thats no excuse for a premiere sony first party studio.
 

SLB1904

Banned
Well, yes. I'm a gamer, thats why i'm here (y)

Or am I not allowed to speak my mind on games i've bought/own. Or is it you feel an injustice against Gran turismo from my words?

Whats the rules here? :messenger_tears_of_joy:
You are free to say what you want. Just don't get mad when people call on your bullshit.
 

Dr.Morris79

Member
You are free to say what you want. Just don't get mad when people call on your bullshit.
Whats bullshit? The fact I own them, and have done since the 1st and gave an opinion, the presumption you think I dont own or play them or the fact you seem to have hurt feelings?

If it's the last two, dont worry. I'll still buy this one too (y)

Remember, i'm a gamer, but i'll also add a massive hypocrite too (most gamers are..)
 
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SLB1904

Banned
Whats bullshit? The fact I own them, and have done since the 1st and gave an opinion, the presumption you think I dont own or play them or the fact you seem to have hurt feelings?

If it's the last two, dont worry. I'll still buy this one too (y)

Remember, i'm a gamer, but i'll also add a massive hypocrite too (most gamers are..)

Heard that since 3. Still been the same old clinical circuits, stiff arse driving mechanics, hoover car sound effects and pompous menus
This is what you wrote. It's all bullshit. What's even stiff arse driving mechanics? Shit makes no sense.
The sound engine was overalled for gt sport. Pompous menu? Gt has the best menu than any racing and I can go far and say is the best menu in any game. Clean beautiful and great music. Same old clinical circuit? What? Are you serious. It's like saying fifa has the same old stadium also GT has great made up circuits fantastic even. Do you think you hurt my feelings? Like I don't deal with trolls everyday

You see what I mean?
 
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