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[Dusktildawn48]

That's the XSX, even has 8K on the chip

Ps5 definitely says 8k and 4k120 on the box bud.

 

[Chiggs]

"We not count pixel native anymore because meaningless."

19% of more pixels on series X

Digital Foundry is nothing without their console war bullshit, and everyone on the crew knows it.

 

[Concern]

1080p/60fps on current gen is fuckin garbage. Review thread kinda killed some anticipation and now this even worse. Gameshare buddy wants it tho.

Guys really warring over this terribly optimized game? Lol

 

[Dusktildawn48]

What I don't get, the S is 1/3 the power of the X, but the X is only running double the framerate at the same resolution. Surely performance mode can get a higher resolution on the X and PS5.

 

[intbal]

What I don't get, the S is 1/3 the power of the X, but the X is only running double the framerate at the same resolution. Surely performance mode can get a higher resolution on the X and PS5.

They likely just capped the resolution at the standard 1080p on both to ensure a perfect 60 at all times.
Both could probably run the game ~1260p at 60hz, perhaps with occasional frame drops.

 

[Dusktildawn48]

They likely just capped the resolution at the standard 1080p on both to ensure a perfect 60 at all times.
Both could probably run the game ~1260p at 60hz, perhaps with occasional frame drops.

Would strongly prefer a slightly higher resolution at a "mostly" stable framerate.

 

[TheGodfather07]

i guess 1080p 60fps it is. surely they could have got it to 1400p on PS5 and XSX though? its a PS4/XB1 game.

 

[intbal]

DL2 is still using the same engine from DL1 with some improvements. UE5 was built from the ground up with next generation in mind. Techland is a farely small studio so they probably chose to focus on content over optimization. They are currently working on a PS5/Xbox Series version of DL1 so I hope they are trying to implement low level API optimizations to it and hopefully they will get ported to DL2 (SSD low level API isn't being utilized ATM, 30s to load is too high).

Not according to the game's lead designer.

Smektala shared that instead of using the old game engine they used for the original game, they have their own in-house engine called the C-Engine. At the very beginning of creating Dying Light 2 Stay Human, they made sure they changed their technology.

link

 

[Inviusx]

The question is now, does their day 1 patch adjust any of these metrics or will this game be doomed to the 1080p trash heap for the rest of its days?

 

[Little Chicken]

This game is not built for XBS and PS5, they're ports. This is as good as it's going to get.

 

[MaKTaiL]

Not according to the game's lead designer.



link

I've played over 600h of the first game. I see A LOT of reused assets, animations and sounds (I'm not at all complaining, I'm just stating what I observed). I really think they only improved on the original engine, not created a new one.

 

[intbal]

I've played over 600h of the first game. I see A LOT of reused assets, animations and sounds (I'm not at all complaining, I'm just stating what I observed). I really think they only improved on the original engine, not created a new one.

Believe whatever you want.
It's not my claim.
Those are the words of the lead designer.

 

[adamsapple]

They likely just capped the resolution at the standard 1080p on both to ensure a perfect 60 at all times.
Both could probably run the game ~1260p at 60hz, perhaps with occasional frame drops.

I never understand why DRS isn't used more commonly. Even first party studios like Naughty Dogs don't use it.

I, too, have to imagine both PS5 and SX have some headroom above 1080p. Just let the game run with an aggressive DRS to 1440p or something. Sure it won't spend the majority of time at that if a game's really that demanding, but it'll be better than a flat 1080p.

 

[rapid32.5]

Well, they got 5 years to make it 4K60 in the Definitive Edition.

 

[intbal]

I never understand why DRS isn't used more commonly. Even first party studios like Naughty Dogs don't use it.

I, too, have to imagine both PS5 and SX have some headroom above 1080p. Just let the game run with an aggressive DRS to 1440p or something. Sure it won't spend the majority of time at that if a game's really that demanding, but it'll be better than a flat 1080p.

They have to make eight versions of this game.
I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt until I see the Day 1 patch. If that doesn't change things, I'll be rather disappointed.
Although nowhere near as disappointed as I am about the removal of the grappling hook.

 

[Riky]

A touch of extra clarity. We are here now.

Seems like a far cry from this

Try reading.

Which RDNA2 features does this game use? Answer none, no VRS, No SFS and no Mesh Shaders.
Get back to me when all these features are in the games, this advantage is just brute force as the Series X is simply more powerful.

 

[Riky]

Yet we know which platform has put out the best lookers and it doesn't end with a X.

Looks like he was one of those who tried claiming PS5 wasn't RDNA 2.

Lying again, I was actually one of the people saying PS5 was RDNA2 simply because AMD who made the chips said it was.

 

[Phunkydiabetic]

I was refering to the visuals only as the coffee. Looking at the package as a whole it seems pretty high class, though i guess this package came with a bug infestation in the midst (lolololololololol)

I read that in this guy's voice

 

[Snake29]

the PS5 is sold.as 4k console and are very rare 4k games on it...show me a post where you blame them and I'll take you seriously

Xbox Series X sold as “True 4K” console. Well we’re not going to see any True 4K in the future.

Ps5 definitely says 8k and 4k120 on the box bud.

Lol look at the XSX box….

 

[DenchDeckard]

Let’s be honest guys, it’s completely unfair to attack the series S when we have the big boy consoles delivering 1080p.

it makes no sense that there is such attacks on the series S yet you can’t say a bad word about ps5 and series X?

so we can all agree that the developer should be able to squeeze more out of the bigger consoles for the 60fps mode but can’t see the series s being able to deliver 60fps at say 720p reconstructed?

these console versions arent Great at all. Luckily, tech land is known to show great support so hopefully they can do something with patches.

 

[sinnergy]

Digital Foundry is nothing without their console war bullshit, and everyone on the crew knows it.

These are the facts .. it is what it is , in this case Series X has a higher resolution.

 

[Feel Like I'm On 42]

then make it 60 and make it the definitive only mode.
Don't introduce "hey but there is this ray tracing mode that 30" ... "so of course nobody will choose 30fps but at least you see what you are missing out on when playing 60fps"

I wish there was a way for us to have some influence on developers. Everyone here is pretty much on the same page when it comes to how this dichotomy between modes in reality kinda sucks. Yet this is obviously perfectly acceptable among casuals and among devs. The industry keeps doing performance and fidelity modes+ and failing to aim for 1440p/60 optimized mode and that shouldn't be the damn case.
+q
It's these very companies, Sony and MS that pushed so hard for 4k, then they pushed the marketing hard of "high framerates", yet we keep getting compromised situations forcing us to choose.

Either the consoles are just abject disappointments or¹

Let’s be honest guys, it’s completely unfair to attack the series S when we have the big boy consoles delivering 1080p.

it makes no sense that there is such attacks on the series S yet you can’t say a bad word about ps5 and series X?

so we can all agree that the developer should be able to squeeze more out of the bigger consoles for the 60fps mode but can’t see the series s being able to deliver 60fps at say 720p reconstructed?

these console versions arent Great at all. Luckily, tech land is known to show great support so hopefully they can do something with patches.

These companies never ever just increase resolution from say, 1080p to 1440p. They might make a tweak to DRS where they change one of the parameters but I've never seen a big improvement like that made post launch.

 

[TonyK]

Performance mode for Series X and PS5 runs at 1080p but at a smooth 60fps

 

[TonyK]

1080 is good enough for consoles.

Not in a 65" TV

 

[Feel Like I'm On 42]

1080p/60fps on current gen is fuckin garbage. Review thread kinda killed some anticipation and now this even worse. Gameshare buddy wants it tho.

Guys really warring over this terribly optimized game? Lol

I'm so fuckin fed up with disappointing optimizations on these next gen consoles. 1080p man. I totally called this btw in the "next gen modes" thread because they were clearly hiding next gen footage.

The fact that loading times are so long on next gen is the only thing that could explain why they couldn't get 1440p workin at 60 fps. Nobody wants to have to settle for this on next gen consoles and its rediculous for AAA devs to think this is acceptable.

It may sound like I'm being dramatic but when the ps5 and Series X have been so heavily marketed as 4k powerhouses, and even "8k" machines (lol), then 1440p at 60 on a cross gen engine like dying light 2 should damn well be doable.

 

[rofif]

Not in a 65" TV

It wasn't good even when I had 27" monitor.
And certainly not on 48" oled in my face.
The choices feel like a scam. You pay 70usd for a game and no mode is good

 

[Feel Like I'm On 42]

Not in a 65" TV

Not on a 55 inch TV! People who hold onto this idea that 1080p looks good on a 4k tv need to just stop. It's clear why they do it too, it makes them feel better about this crappy situation where we're stuck at the mercy of lazy developers. Because outside of buying a high end PC we have no way to play this game the way it deserves to be played.

 

[Concern]

I'm so fuckin fed up with disappointing optimizations on these next gen consoles. 1080p man. I totally called this btw in the "next gen modes" thread because they were clearly hiding next gen footage.

The fact that loading times are so long on next gen is the only thing that could explain why they couldn't get 1440p workin at 60 fps. Nobody wants to have to settle for this on next gen consoles and its rediculous for AAA devs to think this is acceptable.

It may sound like I'm being dramatic but when the ps5 and Series X have been so heavily marketed as 4k powerhouses, and even "8k" machines (lol), then 1440p at 60 on a cross gen engine like dying light 2 should damn well be doable.

Its not being dramatic. You want what you expected you paid for when purchasing a new console.

These guys worked up a lot of good will with how they kept supporting DL but this is bullshit. Instead of upgrading the first game to next gen, how about doing the new game first?

It makes no sense at all imo

 

[Corndog]

Jesus this VRS tier 2 and SFS obsession. You continue to sell it as something of revolutionary in terms of hardware performance.

So what. Maybe it will. Maybe it won’t.

 

[Elog]

One should not read much into the console versions of this game. The full RT setting aside, we have seen games with much more geometrical detail, significantly higher resolution textures, 60-70% more pixels and great lighting/ shading @60 FPS with both the XSX and the PS5. It is a turd in terms of optimisation.

 

[Corndog]

?

If you disagree give the reasons. No need to get upset and name call.

He can’t help it.

 

[Feel Like I'm On 42]

It wasn't good even when I had 27" monitor.
And certainly not on 48" oled in my face.
The choices feel like a scam. You pay 70usd for a game and no mode is good

I'm glad people are finally getting fed up with this shit but we're at the mercy of these lazy developers who don't give a fuck.

 

[Concern]

?

If you disagree give the reasons. No need to get upset and name call.

Don't know if someone already knew it or if it works with XSX or PS4 and other consoles, but there is a "trick" to play all your games "at 60 FPS", at least on ps5, with a new Bravia TV .

He thought Sony tvs can magically make every game 60fps lol. Its clear he doesn't understand what he's talking about most of the time. Leave him be

 

[bender]

.And certainly not on 48" oled in my face.

Scoot back a little, hun.

 

[The_Mike]

rock solid 30fps

What a way to make that framerate sound good lol.

Still have to deal with 30 fps in 2022

 

[DonJorginho]

What a way to make that framerate sound good lol.

Still have to deal with 30 fps in 2022

Ain't my opinion pal, stating what the video says.

 

[Feel Like I'm On 42]

One should not read much into the console versions of this game. The full RT setting aside, we have seen games with much more geometrical detail, significantly higher resolution textures, 60-70% more pixels and great lighting/ shading @60 FPS with both the XSX and the PS5. It is a turd in terms of optimisation.

The problem is we wait years for these games and some of them are truly great games, like Dying Light 2 probably is. We buy these next gen systems, the games finally come out with crappy modes and that's it. Our one chance to play them at goodbresokution with a good framerate is OVER. So, I don't care that "it's not ps5's fault". This shit keeps happening over and over.

But you're right we now have really capable CPU's and GPU's, at least insofar as being able to run cross gen games well, but devs like Techland won't put in the effort when it probably requires more effort than usual to do. Some of the blame is on MS and Sony though because they could've foreseen this situation and shouldve made sure these consoles had some extra grunt.

 

[Marvel]

Fuck... 30fps/1080p content looks like dogshit on my 65" C1.

 

[rofif]

Fuck... 30fps/1080p content looks like dogshit on my 65" C1.

30fps requires some premium ass motion blur to look fine on c1, true

 

[jezhumphrey75]

Another non 60fps xss game.

game devolopers fault not the machine.

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

Lying again, I was actually one of the people saying PS5 was RDNA2 simply because AMD who made the chips said it was.

It didn't look like that from that post.
If I ASSumed wrong.... I apologize bro.

 

[Kupfer]

It was upddated.
I have no opinion on this - just saying system requirement overview has been updated.

 

[MonkeyClaw36]

I want them to up the resolution and the framerate.

Buy a fucking PC. This game was made with consoles in hindsight and it shows.

 

[Jibran#one]

1080p is a sin , on big tvs 1080p games look like dogshit .

 

[Dr.D00p]

1080p 30fps....I'd laugh except that I know this thing is going to run like utter garbage on PC as well, no matter what you throw at it.

 

[Lognor]

That's the XSX, even has 8K on the chip

Not sure about the chip in the PS5, but the PS5 is definitely marketed as an 8k console!

 

[Dust-by-Monday]

Wow... 1080p/30 on "next-gen" Series S

Is it 2013?

 

[Dust-by-Monday]

game devolopers fault not the machine.

Unless said developer couldn't get enough power from the machine to run the game faster. So it sounds like it's a bit of both.

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

Not sure about the chip in the PS5, but the PS5 is definitely marketed as an 8k console!

Well PS5 is the only one with a 8K game...

 

[Deerock71]

Series S sounds solid!