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Elden Rings UK Sales Were 70~85% Digital. PS5 ~50% Digital - Xbox ~85% Digital - Breakdown By Platform Inside

kingfey

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I'm referring to the difference being associated to gamepass. It's more that they are manufacturing and selling mainly cheaper entry Series S consoles which have no disc drive. I'm not saying the majority buy one or the other.

People will always buy digital there because there is no drive. The Series S 'normalised' digital sales by having a cheap console without a drive, not gamepass.
You misunderstood the point. Gamepass existed before xss. And digital existed before gamepass.
People find it easy to buy things on digital, because its faster transaction, compared to wait time for your disc to arrive from amazon, or drive to a game store. That is what normalizied digital sales. Then you have f2p/dlc games, which doesn't need physical version.
 

Stuart360

Member
You misunderstood the point. Gamepass existed before xss. And digital existed before gamepass.
People find it easy to buy things on digital, because its faster transaction, compared to wait time for your disc to arrive from amazon, or drive to a game store. That is what normalizied digital sales. Then you have f2p/dlc games, which doesn't need physical version.
Gamepass obviously has an effect, especially when there are 25mil subs for it. If you're a Gmaepass sub used to downloading digiital games, why would you then go buy a physical game when a new game releass that isnt on Gamepass?. I mean i'm sure there are SOME users that will do that, users that still prefer physical even though they have Gamepass, but its also obvious that many Gamepass users will just buy new games digitally.
If Spartacus takes off and gets millions of new subs, you will see the same thing happen with Playstation, its just common sense.
Also why are people acting like the digital PS5 doesnt exist?
 

Three

Member
You misunderstood the point. Gamepass existed before xss. And digital existed before gamepass.
People find it easy to buy things on digital, because its faster transaction, compared to wait time for your disc to arrive from amazon, or drive to a game store. That is what normalizied digital sales. Then you have f2p/dlc games, which doesn't need physical version.
Yes, I understand the benefits of digital but you're missing the point. we have people buying digital more on one platform vs others, unless you're saying consumers on particular platforms are more patient or can't drive I don't see the relevance. Somebody tried to associate the difference to gamepass' existence but IMO it can more easily be attributed to selling mainly inexpensive consoles without a disc drive.
 
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Stuart360

Member
It was mostly PC players angry at this tbh.
This is just UK remember, and i'd love to know how they seperated the UK only Steam users to get this data.

One thing is for certain though, Eldern Ring has sold millions on Steam already, some estimating it in the 5-10mil range just on Steam.
 

MrFunSocks

Banned
Gamepass obviously has an effect, especially when there are 25mil subs for it. If you're a Gmaepass sub used to downloading digiital games, why would you then go buy a physical game when a new game releass that isnt on Gamepass?. I mean i'm sure there are SOME users that will do that, users that still prefer physical even though they have Gamepass, but its also obvious that many Gamepass users will just buy new games digitally.
If Spartacus takes off and gets millions of new subs, you will see the same thing happen with Playstation, its just common sense.
Also why are people acting like the digital PS5 doesnt exist?
That’s all well and good, but for some reason people are forgetting the fact that the overwhelmingly large majority of all PS4 and PS5 games are also sold digitally. Sony themselves point this out in their quarterly/yearly reports.
 
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Andodalf

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I love game pass but digital was normalised long before game pass was a thing. Even Sony have like 80%+ of their games sold digitally.
They absolutely didn’t before Gamepass. Digital sales were topping out around a third or less of sales when it launch in mid 2017. After that we saw a rapid acceleration
 

MrFunSocks

Banned
They absolutely didn’t before Gamepass. Digital sales were topping out around a third or less of sales when it launch in mid 2017. After that we saw a rapid acceleration
Absolutely incorrect.


Even as far back as 2016 digital sales made up almost 80% of video game sales.
 
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Certinty

Member
Well I have to admit I did not see this coming. I thought these games were still relatively niche so to speak.
 

NonPhixion

Member
So even with digital included, Xbox ended up in 3rd place behind PC.

Its nice to finally have numbers that clearly shows that PlayStation is the lead platform of 3rd party games sales. Remember when some thought Xbox would match PS in sales if digital was included. Guess not.
3rd place is where Xbox is the most comfortable
 

NickFire

Member
When you consider how big the PS4/5 fan base is compared to Xbox One/Series consoles, I expected much more than a 12% gap in sales.
It may stay close, especially considering how early this generation is (only 9% was PS4 I think). But it also may widen after word of mouth sales start getting tallied. I don't want to derail this thread, but in the context of PS sales it's hard to completely ignore how much competition this game has on PS right now (some of which is multiplat of course).
 

yazenov

Member
41% of sales vs 29% of sales

Roughly 60mil XB1/ Series consoles vs roughly 130mil PS4/PS5 consoles.

I think Xbox is doing great and punching well above its weight.
People can keep changing the goalposts now hard data is showing you were wrong in those cringy boxed sales threads (funny how we havent had one since the 90% digital Vanguard sales on Xbox data too), but it doesnt change the fact that it was wrong, and most of you already knew it at the time.

This is in the UK where its Xbox second strongest market. If you take into account the overall sales of the game worldwide, I guess its around 80% PS , Xbox 20%. Japan sales of Elden Rings alone would skew the ratio vastly in favour of PS.

Oh and the userbase argument doesnt work in most cases as you can see or else PC would have the most sales given its user base.
 

Chukhopops

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Playstation has the biggest Souls fan base. Not surprised. From Software should be a PS Worldwide studio, they could reach an insane quality both performance and artistically by joining Sony.
I know this is some weak trolling attempt but From would basically cut their sales in more than half doing this.

No one is going to be leaving that much money on the table.
 

ethomaz

Banned
41% of sales vs 29% of sales

Roughly 60mil XB1/ Series consoles vs roughly 130mil PS4/PS5 consoles.

I think Xbox is doing great and punching well above its weight.
People can keep changing the goalposts now hard data is showing you were wrong in those cringy boxed sales threads (funny how we havent had one since the 90% digital Vanguard sales on Xbox data too), but it doesnt change the fact that it was wrong, and most of you already knew it at the time.
I mean it is UK where Xbox is just one or two million behind PS.
 
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SLB1904

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And bare in mind this is one of the most anticipated games of the year. Of course it will sell a lot everywhere. Doubt this is indication of any trend.

Edit: I wish there was real numbers tho
 
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Three

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When you consider how big the PS4/5 fan base is compared to Xbox One/Series consoles, I expected much more than a 12% gap in sales.
Oh shit, it's only 12 percent?

That's crazy if true.
It's not a 12% gap in sales but a 12% gap in market percentage. You can't use it to compare against install base.
If for example tomorrow it releases on Switch the market share percentage gap of xbox/PS would go down to 6% even though the gap in sales hasn't changed at all between xbox and PS. You would need the percentage of the percentage. The gap in sales percentages would be about PS: 60%, Xbox: 40% which isn't too far off install base in the UK.
 
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adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Did the maths between the consoles

PS Disc: 28.7%
PS Digital: 29.87%
Xbox Disc: 6.63%
Xbox Digital: 34.8%

If you include PC:
PS Disc: 20.09%
PS Digital: 20.9%
Xbox Disc: 4.64%
Xbox Digital: 24.36%
PC: 30%*

Wow, the UK Xbox folks are already embracing the all digital future.

XB digital sales are the single biggest chunk of the console sales.
 

ethomaz

Banned
Source? And you got the total numbers?
The latest leak was in Era in March 2021.
After that he asked ban and moved to something installbase and so I have no ideia how it is now.


Edit

On that forum so will have a look.
Added the March 2021 data link to help.
I don't have account in the other forum and I'm no sure if they will allow I create one with my name lol
 
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NonPhixion

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Sales as a % to install base is the dumbest argument anyone can make. Would a developer rather sell to 20% of 60 million or 10% of 130 million?
 

iHaunter

Member
Both Steam and PS5 were fully digital. I would've liked to get a Steelbox for PS5 but they opted to only include it in the collector's.
 

NickFire

Member
I find it fascinating that Xbox is basically becoming an all digital platform by user choice.
I'm not surprised at all. These new machines load the game faster than it takes me to get off couch, walk to system, change disc, and walk back to couch.

Plus, I can't be the only one burned by Battlefield. Figured by the disc in case I want to trade in. Did not figure trade in price would be less than cost of gas to drive there though. Bad deal for me. Very bad deal.
 

ethomaz

Banned
I believe Series vs PS5 was 800k in 2020.
Around 500k+ PS5 (I believe it was 525k exactly but I can be remembering wrong)... 300k- (275k if PS5 is right) Series.

I have no 2021 data.
 
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reksveks

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Sales as a % to install base is the dumbest argument anyone can make. Would a developer rather sell to 20% of 60 million or 10% of 130 million?
The only reason it is interesting is this hypothesis that GP is conditioning users not to buy games. This looks like evidence against it.
 

IntentionalPun

Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole

I am so confused why this guy's opinion matters.

"Wow this game everyone knows is selling well, IS SELLING WELL!"

Sorry to be snarky, it's more that it cracks me up. He was a GameStop manager, using that to have a bit of inside info, probably against the rules of his job.. but he lost that job many many years ago and has been an entry level retail employee for ages.
 
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reksveks

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I believe Series vs PS5 was 800k in 2020.
Around 500k+ PS5 (I believe it was 525k exactly but I can be remembering wrong)... 300k- (275k if PS5 is right) Series.

I have no 2021 data.
Yeah, that shit gets interesting especially with elden ring being largely sold on current gen console.

Attach rates per distribution model per gen would be interesting.
 

adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
It sold about 40% better on PS in UK, MS's second biggest market. Its not crazy at all.

UK may be MS's second biggest market but Playstation has a pretty dominant lead in hardware sales especially counting both generations this game is being sold on.

The argument that the much lesser install base on the Xbox accounted for only 10% less sales is pleasantly surprising. The game seems to have similar demand on both eco systems, and doesn't seem to have been a game heavily associated with PS.
 
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MrFunSocks

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From March 2021.

PS4: 7.58m
XB1: 5.6m
Switch: 4m
So without including the PS5 and Series S/X, which we know Sony has sold more of their console than Microsoft has theirs, the PS4 has ~35% higher install base. At the very minimum we’d be looking at a 40% higher install base for PlayStation than Xbox overall, agreed?

Wouldn’t it be fair to assume then that a game would sell at a minimum 40% more copies on PlayStation than on Xbox, purely because the install base is a minimum of 40% higher?
 
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Fake

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I am so confused why this guy's opinion matters.

"Wow this game everyone knows is selling well, IS SELLING WELL!"

Sorry to be snarky, it's more that it cracks me up. He was a GameStop manager, using that to have a bit of inside info, probably against the rules of his job.. but he lost that job many many years ago and has been an entry level retail employee for ages.

He was an insider before. He still have his source btw.
 
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Dr Bass

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Playstation has the biggest Souls fan base. Not surprised. From Software should be a PS Worldwide studio, they could reach an insane quality both performance and artistically by joining Sony.
60% of their UK sales were NOT PS. This would be a stupid move and, assuming you’re talking about exclusivity, would remove a beloved game series from a huge player base. Which is a ridiculous idea.
 
The only reason it is interesting is this hypothesis that GP is conditioning users not to buy games. This looks like evidence against it.

Weird I thought the argument was that people wouldn't but the game if it was available on Gamepass. Elden Ring isn't on the service so the only way to play it is to buy it.
 

ethomaz

Banned
So without including the PS5 and Series S/X, which we know Sony has sold more of their console than Microsoft has theirs, the PS4 has ~35% higher install base. At the very minimum we’d be looking at a 40% higher install base for PlayStation than Xbox overall, agreed?

Wouldn’t it be fair to assume then that a game would sell at a minimum 40% more copies on PlayStation than on Xbox, purely because the install base is a minimum of 40% higher?
29% to 41% is 41.3% higher.
 
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