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Phil Spencer Responds To Starfield and Redfall Delay: "We Hear the Feedback" (IGN)
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MaKTaiL
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Xbox has no other games to play.
DeepEnigma
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They're one of the very few developers that have a community of gamers that bug fix for them in mod patches. And look forward to doing it.
Even when they repackage Skyrim on every platform for over 10 years, the day one OG release bugs were present in every ported version. Not hating, just stating.
Still looking forward to Starfield though.
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skit_data
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I’ve played Oblivion, Fallout 3 and Fallout 4.
The only one I finished was Fallout 3 due to save corruption, glitches or bugs (bought them several years after release) on the other 2 games.
I’ve tried playing Bethesdas games and actually enjoyed most of my time with them up to the point that the saves get fucked or bugs break the game. That’s when my patience simply runs out. I hope Starfield will be in a better state, especially for console players.
Edit: A little anecdote: the best glitch/bug I’ve ever experienced was in Fallout 3. Somehow (idk how, would be fun to get an explanation) the model and sound effect of a water drop in the sewers/subways was replaced by a rusty tin can and its corresponding sound effect. I had rusty tin cans falling from the ceiling all over the sewer with a corresponding ”clonk” sound effect only to disappear and repeat the animation.
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AtomicStarving
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My big fear about Microsoft taking control of Bethesda was one thing: Arkane Studios. One of my favorite studios... Prey, Dishonored... fucking amazing games. Now they are making a fucking trash ass coop game for Xbox...
Shmunter
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Yeah it’s weird. Like when Ninja Theory joined MS, they built that ridiculous GaaS brawler.My big fear about Microsoft taking control of Bethesda was one thing: Arkane Studios. One of my favorite studios... Prey, Dishonored... fucking amazing games. Now they are making a fucking trash ass coop game for Xbox...
Borowski_1
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Feel Like I'm On 42
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This is a perfect example of the management problem at MSMy big fear about Microsoft taking control of Bethesda was one thing: Arkane Studios. One of my favorite studios... Prey, Dishonored... fucking amazing games. Now they are making a fucking trash ass coop game for Xbox...
abacab driver
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"The development of Bleeding Edge began as a passion project and was built out of inspiration from the original Ninja Theory game Kung Fu Chaos. Creative director Rahni Tucker stated the reasoning behind this game existing was "At home, I play a lot of team multiplayer games, all the way from MOBAs to team shooters. And then I was like: where is this game? A third-person action competitive team multiplayer. It doesn't really exist, and it sounds like my dream project".[5] Tucker said they came to that shortly after the development of DmC: Devil May Cry concluded. Tucker pitched the game and at the time nothing came of it but she stated that around halfway for Hellblade, Ninja Theory approached her on the idea and development went into production."
MatrixReloaded101
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Phil needs to get someone to mange these studios. He is a great help to Xbox but he just is not good at managing projects across the different studios.
Series X/S launched with no games, Halo infinite got delayed and is still struggling to produce new content despite being a live service game and now this.
Xbox has to really lock in on understanding how to manage everything, especially if they plan to keep expanding.
The PS5 hasn’t been the most consistent with new game releases either so this is a big missed opportunity for Xbox to get more market share.
Series X/S launched with no games, Halo infinite got delayed and is still struggling to produce new content despite being a live service game and now this.
Xbox has to really lock in on understanding how to manage everything, especially if they plan to keep expanding.
The PS5 hasn’t been the most consistent with new game releases either so this is a big missed opportunity for Xbox to get more market share.
Dee Dah Dave
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What’s this year then, Forza Motorsport and Goldeneye Remastered?
TBH I will take that
TBH I will take that
John Wick
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Sometimes it's better to not say anything especially when your head of PS. It's like these execs don't live in reality....
John Wick
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Of course it hasn't yet where did all those games they have released come from then?
SJRB
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My big fear about Microsoft taking control of Bethesda was one thing: Arkane Studios. One of my favorite studios... Prey, Dishonored... fucking amazing games. Now they are making a fucking trash ass coop game for Xbox...
Didn't they start working on Redfall or whatever WAY before the Microsoft acquisition?
digoutyoursoul
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Look what he said about Crackdown 3 for example and how that turned out. It’s stuff like this and on top of everything else that irks me.
ReBurn
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This still hurtsLook what he said about Crackdown 3 for example and how that turned out. It’s stuff like this and on top of everything else that irks me.
DeepEnigma
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They sure showed the fans the quality they think they deserve.Look what he said about Crackdown 3 for example and how that turned out. It’s stuff like this and on top of everything else that irks me.
Knightime_X
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lol ok
abacab driver
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One of your favorite studios..yet you're not looking forward to their next release (without even seeing or playing it yet)?
Sounds believable.
Fredrik
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Seems obvious but people want to blame Phil and MS for everything right now. MS aren’t to blame for the too optimistic release dates either, Bethesda has a thing for 11 after the success of Skyrim which was released 11.11.11, so that’s why they wanted the 11.11.22 date for Starfield. No idea what’s their plan now to get a ”cool” release date.
Many of their studios has been working for years on different projects, hopefully they’ll show something in the June event.
digoutyoursoul
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:-(
fatmarco
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It is funny to imagine though, if Microsoft didn't have Gamepass and were charging full retail for these games, how these constant delays and first party failures would go over with their base.
They can sort of get away with it because, well, most people are getting these games (at least in their minds) for "free".
As if the incompetence is acceptable because the Gamepass deal even in spite of all of this is still so good.
They can sort of get away with it because, well, most people are getting these games (at least in their minds) for "free".
As if the incompetence is acceptable because the Gamepass deal even in spite of all of this is still so good.
Fredrik
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Well yeah that’s how it is. Sony has released more AAA quality 1st party games on PS5 but I still play more games on Xbox Series X.
It’s not certain that it’ll work much longer though…
I’ve prepaid til 2024 for the new PS+ which comes with a games library. Ended up as the same $5/month I prepaid for Gamepass.
Thought of the day:
If MS has no day 1 releases to brag about… since they aren’t releasing any games… What makes Gamepass better?
sendit
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Dick Jones
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Based on that tweet, the Xbox Division must really hate their audienceLook what he said about Crackdown 3 for example and how that turned out. It’s stuff like this and on top of everything else that irks me.
digoutyoursoul
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darthkarki
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Pelta88
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Similar sounding apology around the time when Scalebound was cancelled. At this point and with all his apologies sounding so similar, it feels meaningless.
Dick Jones
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In Spencer's defence, Scalebound was a fuck up by PlatinumGames alone. Master Blocker himself confirmed that.
bender
What time is it?
AtomicStarving
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Camreezie
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Hes got quite the track record for this shit.
Crackdown 3 delays
Scalebound cancellation
Halo Infinite delay
How have they not learned their lessons yet? How do you give a actual date and still not hit it madness. Not even a release window they actually gave a exact date over a year from launch
Crackdown 3 delays
Scalebound cancellation
Halo Infinite delay
How have they not learned their lessons yet? How do you give a actual date and still not hit it madness. Not even a release window they actually gave a exact date over a year from launch
Katajx
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I’ll give you that.
Negotiator101
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I'd wager your post isn't going to age well after the 12th, Bethesda are running as they have before Microsoft took over, its just missed its target unfortunately. What about all the games Microsoft shipped last year? Or is that not fitting in with your biased opinion?
Negotiator101
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That was in production before the acquisition dopyMy big fear about Microsoft taking control of Bethesda was one thing: Arkane Studios. One of my favorite studios... Prey, Dishonored... fucking amazing games. Now they are making a fucking trash ass coop game for Xbox...
Negotiator101
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We'll probably get Forza Motorsport, that Contraband game is another possibility and some third party exclusives as well as smaller first party titles.
phil_t98
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Must be the same as Sony then with their games going to PC to
IndianaJack
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I think Phil wants no repeat of Cyberpunk 2077's disastrous launch.
IndianaJack
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Fredrik
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End of last year was great but launch year was awful and here we are again. There is no consistency. All we’ve seen from Microsoft’s 1st party studios on Xbox Series since launch is Bleeding Edge, Psychonauts 2, FH5 and Halo Infinite. 3/4 games came Q3/Q4 2021. Do we have to wait til 2023 for the next 3 games?
Panajev2001a
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This does feel a bit less Nice Guy Phil than usual… one of the first time where “I want to give devs time to work / release when ready” is met with a stern “but… we expect consistency in output”. A bit threatening…
K2D
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Xbox shouldn't be mocked an ridiculed for giving their games more time in the oven. They should be applauded and encouraged.
If you want to mock Xbox, their game initiative during One-Era, and their swallowing of whole publishers should do the trick. But not doing for making the right decision.. and rushing AAA games is never the right decision.
If you want to mock Xbox, their game initiative during One-Era, and their swallowing of whole publishers should do the trick. But not doing for making the right decision.. and rushing AAA games is never the right decision.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Nah, it's just PR speak.
Phil, Aaron and the entire Bethesda crew met a few days before the press release for the delay, it's pretty well documented on social media. No doubt all this about the delay was finalized then and Phil had a few days to have a statement ready that doesn't throw the developers under the bus but also makes it sound like he's as disappointed as the fans.
Nothing out of the ordinary here.
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Fredrik
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Forza Horizon 5 was awesome but I could’ve waited for Xbox Series Pro tbh, the games output is incredibly inconsistent on Xbox, it’s sad to see when all things seemed to align perfectly before launch.
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