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David Jaffe to Phil Spencer: 'You suck...... get some therapy.'

AREYOUOKAY?

Member
Only people who need help are people like Jaffe.

He look like a toxic homeless dude with mental issues.
Yeah he does seem a bit "baked" at times.

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Kacho

Gold Member
Is Jaffe getting angry at Phil due to the delay of Starfield? Does he seriously think that Starfield would not be delayed if MS didn't own Bethesda? The game was always gong to be delayed. This delay has absolutely nothing to do with MS' leadership and everything to do with Bethesda only. I could understand if Jaffe was angry about Halo Infinite, delayed a year and still abysmal with it's content but not Starfield.
It’s not that. Starfield is just the straw that broke the camels back because it’s such a behemoth and Microsoft’s output has been dry for years. People are getting tired of it. 2022 has had nothing so far and with Starfield delayed things are looking bleak.

All eyes on the Xbox showcase in June. If they don’t have something big in store for Xbox this year people will criticize the hell out of them again, and rightfully so.
 
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sol_bad

Member
It’s not that. Starfield is just the straw that broke the camels back because it’s such a behemoth and Microsoft’s output has been dry for years. People are getting tired of it. 2022 has had nothing so far and with Starfield delayed things are looking bleak.

All eyes on the Xbox showcase in June. If they don’t have something big in store for Xbox this year people will criticize the hell out of them again, and rightfully so.

I'm one of Microsoft's biggest critics and I'm honestly not expecting anything from the June show. Just more announcements of games that are 3+ years away. I said at the end of the PS4/Xbox One era that the next gen is going to be a dry spell for MS and it looks like it's going to be true. But Starfield is squarely on Bethesda and not Microsoft.
 
I'm one of Microsoft's biggest critics and I'm honestly not expecting anything from the June show. Just more announcements of games that are 3+ years away. I said at the end of the PS4/Xbox One era that the next gen is going to be a dry spell for MS and it looks like it's going to be true. But Starfield is squarely on Bethesda and not Microsoft.

Microsoft can still have a great show even if they don't release anything for all of 2022.

If they show that 2023-2024 looks packed with great content, and have something meaningful to show of some of their games in this window (Hellblade, Perfect Dark, Fable, Avowed)....I'll be fine with it.

If all we get is more CG teasers with very little substance and no assurances of when these games are coming out and that they still look very far off, it'll definitely be time to be concerned.
 

Kacho

Gold Member
But Starfield is squarely on Bethesda and not Microsoft.
Agreed and I think everyone not console warring understands that. The criticism has more to do with the big picture and the perception that Microsoft has trouble managing their studios. Once Microsoft starts pumping out AAAs regularly the criticisms will vanish — it’s just a matter of when. Everyone knows they’re coming.
 

sol_bad

Member
Microsoft can still have a great show even if they don't release anything for all of 2022.

If they show that 2023-2024 looks packed with great content, and have something meaningful to show of some of their games in this window (Hellblade, Perfect Dark, Fable, Avowed)....I'll be fine with it.

If all we get is more CG teasers with very little substance and no assurances of when these games are coming out and that they still look very far off, it'll definitely be time to be concerned.


Hellblade, Fable and Perfect Dark?
C'mon man.
Hellblade might be a possibility, MAYBE.
But reports say Perfect Dark's development was rebooted and whoever is doing Fable are having trouble with it's open world. They are 2024 at a minimum.
 

Hendrick's

If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Is Jaffe getting angry at Phil due to the delay of Starfield? Does he seriously think that Starfield would not be delayed if MS didn't own Bethesda? The game was always gong to be delayed. This delay has absolutely nothing to do with MS' leadership and everything to do with Bethesda only. I could understand if Jaffe was angry about Halo Infinite, delayed a year and still abysmal with it's content but not Starfield.
He is just another clickbait YouTuber. Remember, he turned down those millions from Tencent and now this is likely his sole source of income.
 
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Ozriel

M$FT
Is Jaffe getting angry at Phil due to the delay of Starfield? Does he seriously think that Starfield would not be delayed if MS didn't own Bethesda? The game was always gong to be delayed. This delay has absolutely nothing to do with MS' leadership and everything to do with Bethesda only. I could understand if Jaffe was angry about Halo Infinite, delayed a year and still abysmal with it's content but not Starfield.

He - and quite a number of other internet warriors - want Spencer to ‘show leadership’ by firing a few people over the same pandemic related delays that we’ve seen in tons of AAA projects.

Bafflingly, this ‘therapy’ recommendation never came up with announced delays from Square, Warner Bros, Sony, Capcom, EA, Nacon, Amazon games and many others.

I guess it’s helped to boost the engagement stats on the video.
 

Clear

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Bafflingly, this ‘therapy’ recommendation never came up with announced delays from Square, Warner Bros, Sony, Capcom, EA, Nacon, Amazon games and many others.

He's not "just" the head of a publisher, he's running a whole multi-platform ecosystem. That's a big job with bigger responsibilities and profile than almost any other in gaming. As such he's deserving of more scrutiny and criticism over his performance and leadership.
 
He - and quite a number of other internet warriors - want Spencer to ‘show leadership’ by firing a few people over the same pandemic related delays that we’ve seen in tons of AAA projects.
Sorry, plenty of great games and software in general were created during the pandemic.

Everybody in the developed world had some level of restrictions applied to them. Where I work they even acknowledge that productivity levels went up before saying that they would prefer at least some level of in office work.

"But but the pandemic" is just another excuse from MS to not deliver.
 

Ozriel

M$FT
He's not "just" the head of a publisher, he's running a whole multi-platform ecosystem. That's a big job with bigger responsibilities and profile than almost any other in gaming. As such he's deserving of more scrutiny and criticism over his performance and leadership.


Still boils down to studios and dev teams at the end of the day.
His position is the one that manages the overarching strategy. He could absolutely have forced through a release of Starfield for November 2022. Or Redfall in 2022. He signed off on the delay.
After all the talk about games needing to launch with high quality levels, you’d think people would appreciate folks willing to take the heat and make the call to delay

We say how this went with CD Projekt where fear of spooking partners made them release Cyberbunk 2077 in a broken state on consoles.
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
It would be exactly the same. It always is.
I wonder if persecution complexes and hypocritical blinders are a part of the program?

I notice this place seems to ban especially perms more Sony fans than Xbox ones, but yet somehow, it's never good enough and these warped bias accusations seem to always be in play.

It's fucking weird, man. You're not fooling anyone but yourselves.
 

Vognerful

Member
I wonder if persecution complexes and hypocritical blinders are a part of the program?

I notice this place seems to ban especially perms more Sony fans than Xbox ones, but yet somehow, it's never good enough and these warped bias accusations seem to always be in play.

It's fucking weird, man. You're not fooling anyone but yourselves.
This is absolutely not true and you know it. In fact most Perma banned users recently here were Xbox affiliate.

But I know you already have an auto response and will say "oh, goes to show how those guys act".
 

Topher

Gold Member
Oh right, if I said Sony games are walking simulator, nothing will happen to me.

Depends on the manner in which you say it, I guess. If I started trolling Xbox threads with that cliche "no games" line then I'd get warned and eventually banned. It has happened to plenty of Sony fans.

This is absolutely not true and you know it. In fact most Perma banned users recently here were Xbox affiliate.

But I know you already have an auto response and will say "oh, goes to show how those guys act".

I see plenty of Sony faithful represented in the ban list.

I wonder if persecution complexes and hypocritical blinders are a part of the program?

I notice this place seems to ban especially perms more Sony fans than Xbox ones, but yet somehow, it's never good enough and these warped bias accusations seem to always be in play.

It's fucking weird, man. You're not fooling anyone but yourselves.

Hypocritical blinders is about right. That seems to be a dominant trait for a lot of console warriors.
 
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Vognerful

Member
Depends on the manner in which you say it, I guess. If I started trolling Xbox threads with that cliche "no games" line then I'd get warned and eventually banned. It has happened to plenty of Sony fans.



I see plenty of Sony faithful represented in the ban list.



Hypocritical blinders is about right. That seems to be a dominant trait for a lot of console warriors.


Here is a recent example from our friend slimysnake thread where he asked how people feel about Xbox in 2022. So mostly negative comments which is understandable due to current situation.

Enter Captain Toad Captain Toad who managed to make the same low effort comment 4 times


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But then you have this guy who got immediately banned. Now I understand his comment was to shit on Microsoft, but he was way less trolling than our friend.

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So they wither lack clear standards, or have some favoritism towards toad.
 

OmegaSupreme

advanced basic bitch
Here is a recent example from our friend slimysnake thread where he asked how people feel about Xbox in 2022. So mostly negative comments which is understandable due to current situation.

Enter Captain Toad Captain Toad who managed to make the same low effort comment 4 times


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2n9S3kJ.jpg


PkFOSq5.jpg


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But then you have this guy who got immediately banned. Now I understand his comment was to shit on Microsoft, but he was way less trolling than our friend.

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So they wither lack clear standards, or have some favoritism towards toad.
I think there is some sort of point system. If you accrue a certain amount of points through warnings you get da boot. That might be the case here. Otherwise hit the report button. Mods can't see everything.
 

kyliethicc

Member
Here is a recent example from our friend slimysnake thread where he asked how people feel about Xbox in 2022. So mostly negative comments which is understandable due to current situation.

Enter Captain Toad Captain Toad who managed to make the same low effort comment 4 times


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2n9S3kJ.jpg


PkFOSq5.jpg


NUm4PvC.jpg



But then you have this guy who got immediately banned. Now I understand his comment was to shit on Microsoft, but he was way less trolling than our friend.

aqOCWGu.jpg


So they wither lack clear standards, or have some favoritism towards toad.
Daaaamn Toad
 
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Topher

Gold Member
Here is a recent example from our friend slimysnake thread where he asked how people feel about Xbox in 2022. So mostly negative comments which is understandable due to current situation.

Enter Captain Toad Captain Toad who managed to make the same low effort comment 4 times


gde0sY0.jpg


2n9S3kJ.jpg


PkFOSq5.jpg


NUm4PvC.jpg



But then you have this guy who got immediately banned. Now I understand his comment was to shit on Microsoft, but he was way less trolling than our friend.

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So they wither lack clear standards, or have some favoritism towards toad.

Dude.....@Monkeyball got banned for repeatedly posting politics after being warned. Perhaps you should check the ban list and find out why someone got banned before trying to claim it was due to bias against a plastic box.


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Vognerful

Member
Dude.....@Monkeyball got banned for repeatedly posting politics after being warned. Perhaps you should check the ban list and find out why someone got banned before trying to claim it was due to bias against a plastic box.


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So did you ignore the part about toad repeating the same stuff several times without making a single effort post in that thread?

I checked the ban list; maybe I missed his name there but mods don't keep a clear explanation which post got him banned.
 
It is a fact whether you choose to accept it or not. And what Xbox fan are you talking about Enigma? Propeller man? You? Yeah nothing but the biggest Xbox fans on earth.
No because none of them made a thread talking about what I said. slimeysnake made it.

And it's a fact that said publisher can't get next gen exclusives out the door in two years. Stupid awards mean nothing when topic is about getting games out the door.
 

SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
Here is a recent example from our friend slimysnake thread where he asked how people feel about Xbox in 2022. So mostly negative comments which is understandable due to current situation.

Enter Captain Toad Captain Toad who managed to make the same low effort comment 4 times


gde0sY0.jpg


2n9S3kJ.jpg


PkFOSq5.jpg


NUm4PvC.jpg



But then you have this guy who got immediately banned. Now I understand his comment was to shit on Microsoft, but he was way less trolling than our friend.

aqOCWGu.jpg


So they wither lack clear standards, or have some favoritism towards toad.
lmao. Some of those are legitimately funny. I feel like the mods are like 'ok this is funny. Imma let this one slide.'
 

Vognerful

Member
I think there is some sort of point system. If you accrue a certain amount of points through warnings you get da boot. That might be the case here. Otherwise hit the report button. Mods can't see everything.
I am aware about the warning and point system. I myself had earned 2 warnings but they expired. Topher Topher explained that it was due to political posts.

But usually when you get a warning, your comment is deleted as well. I did report his comment but as usually did not receive any reply.
 

SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
So did you ignore the part about toad repeating the same stuff several times without making a single effort post in that thread?

I checked the ban list; maybe I missed his name there but mods don't keep a clear explanation which post got him banned.
It says right there on the ban page. He got banned for politics.

Can't help yourself, can you? No politics. Multiple posts deleted and you're now reposting. Well, bye.
 

Vognerful

Member
lmao. Some of those are legitimately funny. I feel like the mods are like 'ok this is funny. Imma let this one slide.'
It was probably funny the first and second time. After that, I can't think of any reasonable reason why the mods let it be since he did not make any effort in his later comments.

Let's say you made a thread about what do you want to see from Sony this year. Imagine if I said "I hope sony stop releasing the same game 3 times in the same year." But with different variation each time.
 

Topher

Gold Member
So did you ignore the part about toad repeating the same stuff several times without making a single effort post in that thread?

I checked the ban list; maybe I missed his name there but mods don't keep a clear explanation which post got him banned.

Just like I've ignored plenty of trolling posts from Xbox fans over multiple occasions? Yep. If you want to believe that only happens one way then sorry, but I know that is not true. Fact of the matter is we don't know what discussions are going on behind the scenes with mods and the posters being reported. Reports on the ban pages indicate post banned members received multiple warnings.

The ban description for Monkeyball was clear and it was over multiple posts for politics. Highlighting one post isn't necessary.

Here is the post that recently got remember_spinal remember_spinal banned...

Microsoft is barely managing their own studios much less redirecting the entire titantic that Bethesda and their games are in only a short year

ethomaz ethomaz was also recently banned. As was zaanan zaanan . Both permanently. As was M MonarchJT . Sorry....but I'm failing to see any massive bias against Xbox as far as moderation.
 
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No because none of them made a thread talking about what I said. slimeysnake made it.

And it's a fact that said publisher can't get next gen exclusives out the door in two years. Stupid awards mean nothing when topic is about getting games out the door.
Slimy is hardly an Xbox fan either. You can create whatever standard you want in your head, MS won Publisher of the year 2021. It was given by a 3rd party website based on the same standard for all platform holders. Maybe this year Sony will win but in 2021 MS took the title. Your feelings about that is irrelevant.
 

sircaw

Banned
Just like I've ignored plenty of trolling posts from Xbox fans over multiple occasions? Yep. If you want to believe that only happens one way then sorry, but I know that is not true. Fact of the matter is we don't know what discussions are going on behind the scenes with mods and the posters being reported. Reports on the ban pages indicate post banned members received multiple warnings.

The ban description for Monkeyball was clear and it was over multiple posts for politics. Highlighting one post isn't necessary.

Here is the post that recently got remember_spinal remember_spinal banned...



ethomaz ethomaz was also recently banned. As was zaanan zaanan . Both permanently. As was M MonarchJT . Sorry....but I'm failing to see any massive bias against Xbox as far as moderation.
I keep hearing this argument of Bias against Xbox users.

Let me remind the green rats that we lost our very own King Byrank to a Perm ban.

I am sorry to say this but the Xbox crew is seeing evil where there is no evil.

this victimhood shizzle really needs to stop.

Now let me get back to reporting DarkMage619 DarkMage619 + Riky Riky + CatLady CatLady , must thin the herd. "lollipop_disappointed:
 
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