Lognor
Banned
Not if you're camping and don't have service. That's pretty common in the US
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Sony Requires You To Login Weekly To Access PS Plus Extra Games (Downloaded games) (Gamebyte) (Sony Blogpost)
TidusYuna
Member
Does this DRM check also apply to those of us who want to purchase individual ps1/ps2 classics digitally and aren't interested in the premium service?
Because if this online check is required for individual purchased digital classics, I won't be buying any of the classics this generation.
Because if this online check is required for individual purchased digital classics, I won't be buying any of the classics this generation.
Trogdor1123
Gold Member
I am a fan of them. What I do is get a kilo of extra thick bacon and cook it about 80 % done in a cast iron and then remove it. I keep all the bacon grease and drop the Brussel sprouts into it with a sprinkle of Montreal steak spice and a pinch more salt. Once they start to brown I add the bacon back in to my level of desire cooking.
Pretty yummy side dish for steak
bitbydeath
Member
Sorry to ruin your agenda.
akaFullmetal
Member
7 days seems kind of short. I guess you would expect internet issues to be resolved in that time but still don't like it.
PhaseJump
Banned
Sorry to ruin your agenda.
"Agenda":
Yeah, you got me there, console warrior trash. I have an agenda, stating the obvious.
bitbydeath
Member
Ah, I don’t live there…
Thought it would be strange to have power but no phone signal?
Fbh
Member
Eh, doesn't seem that bad. It's an online subscription service for digital only games, I think some sort of connection requirement was expected.
I live on the countryside in the ass of the world. My internet at home I so slow I have to take my console to work to download games there. And even I can manage with this restriction, so most people should be fine.
A permanent connection or daily verification would have been a deal-breaker though.
I live on the countryside in the ass of the world. My internet at home I so slow I have to take my console to work to download games there. And even I can manage with this restriction, so most people should be fine.
A permanent connection or daily verification would have been a deal-breaker though.
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That darn Sony never thinks about people camping outside of cellular service areas when implementing drm. This cannot stand.
GHG
Gold Member
You live on a trailer park?
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Canada too. Go driving or camping in the middle of nowhere (even camp sites where the government knows people are there), and there's no guaranteed service. Same with radio stations. Bring a boombox and you might get lucky and get some local stations nearby. But most stations will be 100% static compared to living in a city where they all work.
Lognor
Banned
Wasn't my example. Take it up with the other poster.
That darn Sony never thinks about people camping outside of cellular service areas when implementing drm. This cannot stand.
Not necessarily. I was in big bend and campsites had power outlets but no cell service. Common in natural parks in us.
You understand what camping is? Who said a trailer park? Keep up
PhaseJump
Banned
A lot of purebred fucking idiots on this forum defend anything Sony does. This non-issue isn't bad enough to defend from mild criticism.
There clearly are outlier cases where it's inconvenient or a problem if you've ever went camping and had to use consoles offline. The very nature of having services "nag screen" or stop you in any way on any platform is a problem for consumers. Pushing a 7 day limit around what is typically a monthly service charge is just overreaching and potentially annoying. Getting around it with tethering isn't a problem, but it begs questions as to whether you're getting what you pay for, or why Sony would be so limiting in the first place. What benefit is a 7 day limit for checking in, when people commonly travel or take vacations more than one week? A month removes the argument entirely, or can boil it down to "once and forget about it."
But, clearly. I hAvE aN AgEnDa AgAiNsT sOnY.
There clearly are outlier cases where it's inconvenient or a problem if you've ever went camping and had to use consoles offline. The very nature of having services "nag screen" or stop you in any way on any platform is a problem for consumers. Pushing a 7 day limit around what is typically a monthly service charge is just overreaching and potentially annoying. Getting around it with tethering isn't a problem, but it begs questions as to whether you're getting what you pay for, or why Sony would be so limiting in the first place. What benefit is a 7 day limit for checking in, when people commonly travel or take vacations more than one week? A month removes the argument entirely, or can boil it down to "once and forget about it."
But, clearly. I hAvE aN AgEnDa AgAiNsT sOnY.
EDMIX
Member
Was just about to say this.
The people that even like services like this don't really seem to be the "offline" type in the first place lol
Captain Toad
Banned
Sorry I didn’t give a fuck to read your response and give you this attention you so desperately seeked out with that last bit.
How about 24 hours?
kingfey
Banned
Its a month on PC. On xbox, people said it was a month.
Lognor
Banned
Wasn't that Microsoft's policy initially with the Xbox One? What's the big deal, guys?! If you're buying one of these consoles keep it connected to the internet!! Obviously!
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Captain Toad
Banned
That wasn't about games you were renting via an online subscription. That was games you purchased and should own.
PhaseJump
Banned
So you would rather just reply to people by telling them something they have already pointed out and said before you posted.
Indeed. I too am sorry you didn't give a fuck enough to read the thread that you're jumping into to give redundant, useless advice.
Lognor
Banned
We'll probably get to that point anyway. Look at the slippery slope we're on. The norm in the industry for a subscription service was a 30 day check in. Now that's been pushed to 7 days. We're on our way!
Hop the fuck off you feral creature. This forum thrives off of redundancy.So you would rather just reply to people by telling them something they have already pointed out and said before you posted.
Indeed. I too am sorry you didn't give a fuck enough to read the thread that you're jumping into to give redundant, useless advice.
PhaseJump
Banned
EDMIX
Member
I'm sure it is....
I simply don't think people that use services like this give a shit. Thats like telling me you need to connect online to use Amazon Prime or some shit, i'm sure those that care about this...likely don't have that issue.
The whole streaming, digital, rental, subscription etc crowd generally favor online to offline, I don't even see how most would be offline considering what the fuck we are even talking about.
Lognor
lol nahhhh the issue with the XONE reveal had more to do with that the system itself did this vs some optional online streaming service thing.
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Deleted member 471617
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Will never understand why Sony (and Microsoft) don't just make a mandatory system update that would have an internal calendar/clock that users can't access in order to verify how long a user's subscription is. With all the tech nowadays, you would think they both could accomplish this without putting restrictions of any kind on their subscriptions.
Yeah but how the hell am I supposed to play these games while scuba diving? Not everyone wants to play on land you know.
Mabdia
Member
First thing that come to my mind.
So...Sony is the new Microsoft, huh?! That sucks.
If gamers are allowing that right now, why, just why did most of us complained in 2013? I mean, if all that happened in 2013 leaded us to 2013 again, why lose time complaining about it? We should be quiet and MS could do the same thing that Sony is doing right now...
I know that this isn't as draconian as Microsoft's plans were. But everything starts with the first move. We give to the bigtechs an inch to soon the demand a mile.
We are a bunch of idiots!!!
kingfey
Banned
My internet was down for 3-4 days. Gamepass pc games didnt work, because I had to play it once for that month. If its something like that, then that is kinda bummer. But since its only login, it would affect a few minority.
It would have been better 1 month or 2 weeks. 1 week is short.
TheThreadsThatBindUs
Member
kingfey at it again, trying to drum up fake controversy.
kingfey
Banned
It come on the wrong time. People had tons of issues with always online. Nowadays, everything requires internet, so its mildly inconvenience.
Even Kinetics was a head of time, but it was on the wrong time. Now VR exist.
Mabdia
Member
To me the problem is the control over the consumer. I really can't accept a bigtech corporation had this kind of control over me.
Damn! I don't even like to have governments have control over me.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Makes sense to me.
Personally, I think all these online requirements have more to do with forcing gamers to be online so they get tempted to do mtx and DLC.
If you allow a gamer to sub for a year, download games, and disconnect from the internet until it's time hook back up and renew the sub plan, and that just encourages people to never buy mtx again. All those new unavoidable splash screens every month about "New Content in the E-Store" would never happen except for whatever canned mtx screens they bake into the v1.0.
You'd never get tempted by leaderboards, friends playing, or anything like that. All that shit fuels competition, online play and buying mtx to keep up.
I think the only valid reason I can think of for doing DRM checks is if offline piracy is that rampant. If you let console gamers play sub games offline with no log in checks, someone will figure out mods/cracks so all the offline games can be passed around to everyone without ever needing a log in check.
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kingfey
Banned
Our life is customized to these stuff, that we cant separate ourself from it. That is what decades of dependency on these stuff does to you.
Look at our phones. We cant separate ourself from it, because it connects us to new world.
These tech just learned how to utilize our needs, and use it to their gains. The government cant do that much to them, because they also depend on them.
EDMIX
Member
yea...sooo that sounds like a great reason not to use such services if thats a big deal for you.
Thats kinda my point btw, if those that care about such services are generally always online anyway...I don't see how this would be an issue for most. So I might care about playing games I own offline, but I care enough about that NOT to fucking use such services for games I like in the first place.
I'd rather just buy used, on sale etc and be able to play the games I bought when I feel like it vs paying to rent and only being able to play under certain conditions. Your point is against such services, not for...
kingfey
Banned
I think subscription opinion is changing for me. Since I lost both ps4, and the ps5+switch to my siblings, and dont use the xbox one s that much, both service are on hold for me.
I might get my OG xbox from the storage, and just play my unfinished games until my little brother comes back from his trip (3 month vacation).
EDMIX
Member
I don't disagree with your situation and your a great brother to do all that.
Simply that is a very, very specific thing that I don't know the majority will be in that exact situation. I understand subscriptions and rentals and such for families maybe looking to find what genre their kids like, but I overall feel more money can be saved just buying used, on sale etc.
Then you don't need to deal with some fee forever, worry about being offline etc. Some times kids can play lots of games, some times they are just spending 700 hours on Fortnite lol
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Yeah, and of course this was getting compared when the Series X issues popped up.
When that was happening, I was getting license validation messages on my PS5. Nothing stopped working, it was just odd that was also happening.
Whatever the check in length is, I never ran into it with Plus games. Only time I did is when there was some error with a PSN game on my PS4 years ago.
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
I mean... it's an online subscription service. If It runs out tomorrow and if I never connect it online again am I supposed to be playing it by 2040?
I'm almost sure the ps plus right now is the same. If it's not a week it's like a month or something.
I'm almost sure the ps plus right now is the same. If it's not a week it's like a month or something.
mansoor1980
Gold Member
this is an issue for some people?
No, that should never happen. It may in some weird rare cases if there is some license issue.
Yup, and a license validation message might pop up.
I dont know whats worse...this or ppl trying to compare it to what happened with the Xbox Series a few weeks ago, lol.
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