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[INC]

cant wait to dump male prostitutes off a cliff

 

[mansoor1980]

body proportions should be modelled after

no more muscular ABBEY bullshit

 

[Trazyn the Infinite]

GTA is such a strange series. To claim that it's somehow losing what made it GTA is odd. GTA's bread and butter isn't being non-woke or anything like that. GTA's bread and butter is violence and mayhem. Everything else is kind of variable depending on the title. The early games had a lot of silly humor that doesn't really translate well with more realistic graphics and much of it was lost when we got to GTAIV.

• GTAIV plays things far more seriously than previous titles and, if it had been made today, would get all sorts of "woke" comments. It's an anti-war anti-revenge immigrant story that essentially punishes Niko for choosing his destructive life of crime.
• Lost and the Damned is dour and serious as hell. None of that trademark silliness.
• Ballad of Gay Tony is a title that brought back a lot of silliness but also featured a latino protagonist and his homosexual father figure. It don't get much more woke than that, amirite?
• Then we get to GTA V which keeps a lot of the craziness, but also has a multi-ethnic trio and gets to offload a lot of it's nastiness behind a character that it presents to us as being deranged.

I guess my point is that in this post-gamer-gate world, with volumes turned up, it's easy to forget that GTA has always been pretty firmly woke. The irreverence has been toned down for a while now and the bread and butter, the mayhem and violence, is still front and center. This new title, unless it's less violent or chaotic, will not move the needle much in any regard.

I think it's clear you don't understand what that word means.

 

[Crayon]

I'm 110% down for that. Just please make her human and not smarter/stronger/better than everyone around her. That shit got old a long time ago.

 

[GametimeUK]

cant wait to dump male prostitutes off a cliff

Can't wait to be the prostitute and steal mens cars.

 

[Cocksman]

Glad they are sticking with multiple protagonists again. It kept 5 feeling fresh getting to switch back and forth.

I’m just worried how much online will take priority over single player

 

[CaptainSlayAHo]

Being cautious not to punch down? Wtf does that mean? How has gta ever punched down? Are there not going to be jokes about fat/uneducated/poor people or something? I'm perfectly fine with one of the main characters being female, but gta being able to make fun of everyone is a huge part of what's great about it.

 

[Gamer_By_Proxy]

A female protagonist isn't the issue or the news here. It's that Rockstar and GTA are going woke. Not "punching down". GTA is supposed to be offensive and carefree!
A female protagonist hasn't been news since Metroid on the NES.

 

[Barakov]

Calling themselves "A kinder, gentler company" is just PR for saying how look boring we become. I think the bigger issue is how they're adding stuff over time. This has the shit stink of early access GAAS all over it.

GTAVI sounds like it's going to be the same level of shit that the new Saints Row is. I want off this ride.

 

[Sosokrates]

True.

If we have a complete experience at launch, so lots of story missions and side missions and with a end to the story. And on top of that come updates with new missions, locations, weapons, vehicles etc…i would love that. It’s more than what V got. But I just don’t see how this is going to work when GTA Online 2 will absolutely happen too. And Rockstar is not Santa, they won’t give those story mode updates for free, cannot imagine that.

So it should be interesting to see how that is gonna go down.

Thats certainly one possible scenario, but you know whats better then making lots of money with GTA6 online? Doing that and also selling story DLC. The leaks says that new locations will also be added, which would also effect the online portion.
They could charge £30 for a 15hr DLC and it would probably sell close to the base game.

 

[realcool]

It's weird

It's not about female protagonist (to me at least) but the series losing its identity.

It's transitioning.

 

[Trazyn the Infinite]

A female protagonist isn't the issue or the news here. It's that Rockstart and GTA are going woke. Not "punching down". GTA is supposed to be offensive and carefree!
A female protagonist hasn't been news since Metroid on the NES.

Now if only the mentally challenged folks claiming otherwise would get their heads examined.

 

[Gamer_By_Proxy]

Can't spell LGBTQIA+ without GTA. Just sayin

Edit: no one even noticed I forgot the Q. Haha

 

[ManaByte]

Now if only the mentally challenged folks claiming otherwise would get their heads examined.

Too late. Blue hair dye rots the brain.

 

[Drew1440]

You couldn't even engage with the prostitutes in RDR2 past some dialogue despite the setting having a more normalized proustite culture than any other R* game. It's likely that GTA V will be the last R* game where you can pay prostitutes.

They will modernize it and replace it with ingame OnlyFans

 

[Neofire]

Oh Lord I hope SJW's haven't infiltrated Rockstar lol.

 

[cormack12]

....people interviewed for this article said they didn’t know of any firm release date and that they expect the game to be at least two years away.

So nobodies then. If you are in any sort of senior position then you have to know the broad milestones and dates as they have financial incentives and release coupled to them (e.g. marketing).

Could be in a weird position where Watch Dogs 2 has even more guts to use NPCs as funny backdrops and even pushed the edgy stuff more

 

[ptuck874]

you think people would learn from Battlefield V, but oh well....

 

[K2D]

GTA is such a strange series. To claim that it's somehow losing what made it GTA is odd. GTA's bread and butter isn't being non-woke or anything like that. GTA's bread and butter is violence and mayhem. Everything else is kind of variable depending on the title. The early games had a lot of silly humor that doesn't really translate well with more realistic graphics and much of it was lost when we got to GTAIV.

• GTAIV plays things far more seriously than previous titles and, if it had been made today, would get all sorts of "woke" comments. It's an anti-war anti-revenge immigrant story that essentially punishes Niko for choosing his destructive life of crime.
• Lost and the Damned is dour and serious as hell. None of that trademark silliness.
• Ballad of Gay Tony is a title that brought back a lot of silliness but also featured a latino protagonist and his homosexual father figure. It don't get much more woke than that, amirite?
• Then we get to GTA V which keeps a lot of the craziness, but also has a multi-ethnic trio and gets to offload a lot of it's nastiness behind a character that it presents to us as being deranged.

I guess my point is that in this post-gamer-gate world, with volumes turned up, it's easy to forget that GTA has always been pretty firmly woke. The irreverence has been toned down for a while now and the bread and butter, the mayhem and violence, is still front and center. This new title, unless it's less violent or chaotic, will not move the needle much in any regard.

I'd say GTAs bread and butter IS the satire, IS the funny and crazy personalities that inhabit those iconic cities. While the free-roaming and general gameplay is what drew and draws people in, the former parts are what semented GTA's legacy.

Being realistic as you say might not be good mesh with those pro's I mentioned, but neither is GTA's general gameplay - namely recking chaos and shooting up the town.

Regarding IV, well it past the test in the eyes of most fans after the "first" three titles (III, VC and SA). We're it made today with the same ambitions, I think it would be even more well received.

Lost and Damned - not much in disagreement there..

BoGT - I would call having gay character as being woke. The most controversial thing has to be that they wrote good characters.

V - Again, trifecta cast was sensible, overall might have been a bit over the top with Trevor, but he was a cool concept and probably the most memorable.

Your concluding points - I don't get why you bring up #gg as it lost all of it's initial intent relatively early, being high jacked by the degenerates on the right, and scapegoated by libs and stans in the gaming media, on the left. Originally being quite possibly a bit prophetic albeit only being relevant to a small part of gaming media.

[GTA always having been woke] - as woke as south park is I guess, if we have to call a piece of satirical media woke. ..as far as remaining the same old GTA, I can imagine them chasing trends we've been see in Hollywood/Netflix/Disney.

 

[InfiniteCombo]

A female protagonist isn't the issue or the news here. It's that Rockstart and GTA are going woke. Not "punching down". GTA is supposed to be offensive and carefree!
A female protagonist hasn't been news since Metroid on the NES.

100% this, really well said.

Female protagonist is not an issue at all, it's perfectly fine.

Hell... per gamer reception, one of the best and most popular members of Dutch's gang was Sadie Adler. (I'm one of those, she was my second favorite character in that game after Arthur.)

The issue is the quote about Rockstar becoming a "softer, kinder" company or whatever the fuck the quote was. Not sure if it's the article writer doing an analysis to get clicks and trigger reactionaries, or if it's a quote from a nobody... but if this is true and official in any way, Rockstar and I are done. Because it's an euphemism for things I stand against.

 

[Chittagong]

As long as she's hot

It’s going to be an undercut, you know it

 

[CaptainSlayAHo]

The issue is the quote about Rockstar becoming a "softer, kinder" company or whatever the fuck the quote was. Not sure if it's the article writer doing an analysis to get clicks and trigger reactionaries, or if it's a quote from a nobody... but if this is true and official in any way, Rockstar and I are done. Because it's an euphemism for things I stand against.

I thought that quote "kinder, gentler" or whatever was odd as well.

Who the fuck talks about their place of employment like that? SOUNDS A LOT like PR speak (unless you're a fucking weirdo I guess) not some anonymous inside source.

 

[spoonztt]

For some reason the first thing that came to mind when I saw the female protagonist thing was the tv show Queen of the South. If the story veers in that kind of direction then it's not necessarily a bad thing.

 

[rodrigolfp]

A female protagonist isn't the issue or the news here. It's that Rockstart and GTA are going woke. Not "punching down". GTA is supposed to be offensive and carefree!
A female protagonist hasn't been news since Metroid on the NES.

I don't remember GTA 1, 2, London and Chinatown Wars being offensive.

 

[CaptainSlayAHo]

I don't remember GTA 1, 2, London and Chinatown Wars being offensive.

Anti drug groups literally protested Chinatown wars

Parents started a campaign against gta 1

 

[TheKnownUnknown]

So pretty much confirmed its a woke piece of shit. Sorry, don't wanna "punch down" on mentally challenged blue haired reeeeetarded snowflakes.

The clowns can have the circus

 

[rodrigolfp]

Anti drug groups literally protested Chinatown wars

Parents started a campaign against gta 1

Drugs are offensive? Or farts and burps on GTA1?

 

[bitbydeath]

I'd say GTAs bread and butter IS the satire

Satire doesn’t exist anymore, it’s been replaced with Racism, Sexism and any other ism you can think of because you can’t make fun of anything without offending someone.

 

[Gamer79]

http://[URL]https://www.bnnbloomber...er-for-first-time-in-series-history-1.1797619

[/URL]

• Grand Theft Auto 6 will feature a playable female protagonist for the first time; she's a latina that is one of a pair of leading characters, influenced by Bonnie & Clyde
• Working title Project Americas
• Main location is a fictional version of Miami + its surrounding areas
• Game will evolve over time, adding new cities
• The game world is already large; more interior locations than prev. GTA games

I really really hope GTA is not going woke.

 

[CaptainSlayAHo]

Drugs are offensive? Or farts and burps on GTA1?

I think it was the fact that you're rewarded for selling drugs. Probably just general premise for gta 1,thing I read didn't specify what they were campaigning against specifically

 

[Eddie-Griffin]

At the end of the game you find out her name used to be James Carter and used to work for the LAPD

Developers are also being cautious not to “punch down” by making jokes about marginalized groups, the people said, in contrast with previous Grand Theft Auto games.

So they think Grand Theft Auto V and San Andreas sold too much? This statement is also concerningly broad.

Also isn't "fictional Miami" exactly what "VICE CITY" is supposed to be?

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As long as she's hot

Hot as polygonal Coffee.

Lets be honest, Saints Row was even less PC than GTA, and look at the new Saints Row game. This was always going to happen with GTA.
People simply have no context, or understand satire anymore. Maybe it will all change again in the future when the masses get bored of this nonsense.

Saints Row should release Dave Chappelle as a playable character the day GTA6 ships.

 

[Dorohedoro]

A playable female character can be good if done right, it's everything else that sounds lame. I'll be very surprised if you can still use hookers let alone have enterable titty bars, that stuff is too problematic these days and the nicer, more progressive R* probably doesn't wanna go there. Something something male gaze something.

I see people bring up Sadie a lot but she was kind of whatever to me, maybe I just found her voice too grating.

 

[InfiniteCombo]

They also make fun of gun toting murica types as inbred retarded hicks

Yeah I get the impression that GTA is almost like a video game version of South Park, making fun of everyone equally.

Not sure why snowflake pussies and christian conservative [redacted] have to get so riled up about something not made for them

I agree with you on the general principle of certain people getting easily offended from nothing, but on the bolded... c'mon man, no need for that.

 

[Eddie-Griffin]

After a public controversy four years ago, Rockstar, the maker of Grand Theft Auto, is reinventing itself as a kinder, gentler company.

Megacorp keeps you warm, keeps ya healthy, and now, keeps you safe..space.

 

[Gamer79]

Meet the new star..

 

[TheKnownUnknown]

They also make fun of gun toting murica types as inbred retarded hicks

Not sure why snowflake pussies and christian conservative faggots have to get so riled up about something not made for them

Because they're the only group that love the victimize themselves like the pussies they are. Meanwhile all normal people can have a laugh at the shit. But now laughing makes you a "racist homophobic bigot nazi" or something like these reeetards say.

 

[CaptainSlayAHo]

Yeah I get the impression that GTA is almost like a video game version of South Park, making fun of everyone equally.agree with you on the general principle of certain people getting easily offended from nothing, but on the bolded... c'mon man, no need for that.

It's ironic that you mentioned south park, because I will call whomever I want a Harley Rider.

 

[Oddvintagechap]

As long as she's hot

FACTS, like these hotties. yumm.

 

[Dorohedoro]

Meet the new star..

That'd be dope...

 

[Putonahappyface]

body proportions should be modelled after

no more muscular ABBEY bullshit

 

[MrTroubleMaker]

"After a public controversy four years ago, Rockstar, the maker of Grand Theft Auto, is reinventing itself as a kinder, gentler company."

 

[Putonahappyface]

So nobodies then. If you are in any sort of senior position then you have to know the broad milestones and dates as they have financial incentives and release coupled to them (e.g. marketing).

Could be in a weird position where Watch Dogs 2 has even more guts to use NPCs as funny backdrops and even pushed the edgy stuff more

That's the most detailed growler I've ever seen in a game.

 

[Fox Mulder]

The hopeful part of me see's that the game will add more cities over time and reads that as single player story expansion.
But after GTA Online's success : NOPE

That just sounds like a GaaS seasons thing for different maps in GTA Online.

 

[ManaByte]

Meet the new star..

 

[CaptainSlayAHo]

As for the broads appearance, give her a cute face, bring back the option where food/exercise changes your weight, bring back barbers. Maybe a plastic surgeon so you could do all kinds of weird shit (less sure on this due to possible motion capture oddity, definitely the other two) . Problem solved

Make your fat blue haired broad with facial hair, or Catalina 2.0,whatever.

Just make her a likable character that's fun to play as, but with serious faults. Really hope it's not a thing where the male is the muscle and the woman is the brains, give some mix and match

 

[MrTroubleMaker]

Could be in a weird position where Watch Dogs 2 has even more guts to use NPCs as funny backdrops and even pushed the edgy stuff more

wasn't that patched out because of the crybabies.

 

[delirium trigger]

It's all over, folks. Comedy is dead.

 

[March Climber]

Meet the new star..

Sure, why not, you can get different hair styles in GTA.

And different clothing too.

The possibilities are endless.

 

[SentientStone]

The only way this would’ve worked is if we played as Chyna and her melee finisher would be the low-blow. It would be amazing playing as her low-blowing her way through Vice City’s crime scene. Now that’s empowering and inclusive!

 

[MacReady13]

The potential this game has in terms of parody for today's society is HUGE, yet bending the knee to the mob means they more than likely wont go down that path. Picking on pronouns, woke culture etc would be awesome to see. Once upon a time Rockstar would do that. Today's Rockstar though I'm not too sure.