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[Ass of Can Whooping]

The worst thing Sony reps said recently was being worried about not having CoD in the future. Saying things like that is like jumping into shark infested waters with an open wound. Keep those thoughts internal and instead tell your audience that you're looking into your shooter vault to see what I.P. can compete. MS owning them should cause motivation not fear.

As plenty have said, SOCOM is still considered a revered name(even if the series had two bad entries) and should drive Sony to do whatever they can to make it a serious AAA competitor.

No amount of hoping will make socom relevent.

 

[Banjo64]

Literally not true

I own both consoles, along with ps+ and game pass, so I'm hardly a fanboy.

With that said, I'm absolutely hoping it closes, and Microsoft can resume acquisitions.

New Diablos and call of duty day 1, back catalog added, maybe we'll see starcraft 2 ported to console now, etc.

Sony acquisitions are exciting in that they'll do good things with the studio, but with a 70 dollar price tag, I'd much prefer xbox to continue adding developers.

You do realise that once they have enough market share and studios you are completely at their mercy? They could easily raise the price of first party games to £80 and then when Game Pass Ultimate ‘just’ costs £20 a month in comparison it will look like a bargain.

 

[K' Dash]

Sony has had over two decades to create a "Halo Killer" and they failed miserably, most notably with Killzone and Resistance franchises. What makes you think they'll have any success creating an FPS experience that will be more successful than COD?

MS themselves created the Halo Killer: 343i

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Sounds to me like he is committing CoD fully to PS5 this generation and then after that.....who knows?

Exactly how I am thinking

Next gen Xbox exclusive maybe

 

[RoadHazard]

"Keeping COD on PlayStation" doesn't necessarily mean ALL COD games will come to PlayStation, even over the next few years. Maybe the agreement does specifically state that, but that's not what they're saying. Could just mean that Warzone will stay or whatever.

And yeah, it's also pretty much confirmation that they WILL make it Xbox console exclusive in a few years.

 

[Topher]

Exactly how I am thinking

Next gen Xbox exclusive maybe

I think that is a distinct possibility.

 

[CaptainSlayAHo]

Fanboys do. Everyone else either has no idea this deal is happening or won't care as it is so many years away from having any impact to COD if ever.

It's a 70 billion dollar deal with some of gaming's most popular franchises, this made every news outlet, affected stock prices etc.

This isn't some hidden, niche acquisition dude

 

[Markio128]

That Bungie acquisition is suddenly looking very smart.

It was smart. And even if Bungie continue to release their games on MS consoles, it’ll still be Sony that benefits. Taking COD from Sony sounds dumb as shit, especially if gamers move onto the next big thing.

 

[Leyasu]

Sounds to me like he is committing CoD fully to PS5 this generation and then after that.....who knows?

Yep agreed

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Could just mean that Warzone will stay or whatever.

Back to this shit again lol

 

[SlimySnake]

It was private, the documents got leaked in Brazil.

Sony:

Brazil:

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

I guess when the deal is closed, it will initiate the final countdown for COD on PS

Well, Sony can always increase Playstation or game prices to compensate that unimaginable loss in advance

 

[tmlDan]

And so the pendulum keeps swinging back and forth!

Microsoft also stated this:
"The reality is somewhere in the middle. Microsoft has also argued in these documents to CADE that not distributing games like Call of Duty at rival console stores “would simply not be profitable” for the company."

And then this:
"Microsoft says a strategy of not distributing Activision Blizzard games on rival consoles would only be profitable if the games could attract a high number of players over to the Xbox ecosystem, resulting in revenue to compensate for losses from not selling these titles on rival consoles."

It shouldn't be this hard to give a clear statement. However, given this was said in January, I wonder if their recent statements are a better indicator of a change in their plans or is there something else in play.

That's what big corporations do, they tread the line just to get tot he finish line - they're all liars in the end and want money for themselves, not others. It's sad that so many people defend a 2 trillion dollar (valued) company like they're the struggling lowly third place baby in this industry.

 

[Salty Popsicle]

MS themselves created the Halo Killer: 343i

Still waiting for an answer from Sony though.

 

[Markio128]

Still waiting for an answer from Sony though.

Destiny seems to be doing alright.

 

[CaptainSlayAHo]

You do realise that once they have enough market share and studios you are completely at their mercy? They could easily raise the price of first party games to £80 and then when Game Pass Ultimate ‘just’ costs £20 a month in comparison it will look like a bargain.

They could lower the price to 50 dollars and raise game pass to 20/mo and it'd still be a bargain, let alone as they add more day one releases like this, so this is completely irrelevant.

Even with this acquisition, they're nowhere near holding the gaming world hostage.

 

[remember_spinal]

Still waiting for an answer from Sony though.

Answer is Destiny

 

[Ogbert]

Not in the least surprising.

CoD is going to end up as an Xbox exclusive. You don’t pay however many billions to keep it multiplat. I suspect it will release on PS this generation and then the new titles will be designed solely for MS.

 

[Topher]

It was smart. And even if Bungie continue to release their games on MS consoles, it’ll still be Sony that benefits. Taking COD from Sony sounds dumb as shit, especially if gamers move onto the next big thing.

And how bizarre will it be if Phil Spencer, the champion of cross-play for games like Call of Duty, suddenly yanks the game entirely from PS and kills console cross-play entirely for the franchise?

 

[RoadHazard]

But everyone said COD is shit so why is this a problem it goes exclusive in 10 years

I give literally zero shits about COD, but I do care about the awesome AAA single player games Sony makes. Once COD goes Xbox exclusive, that's probably gonna mean fewer people will want to get a PlayStation, which in turn will mean Sony will have less resources to produce such games etc. I don't have any stake in Sony, but I do want PlayStation to succeed for those reasons.

 

[Banjo64]

They could lower the price to 50 dollars and raise game pass to 20/mo and it'd still be a bargain, let alone as they add more day one releases like this, so this is completely irrelevant.

Even with this acquisition, they're nowhere near holding the gaming world hostage.

A bargain for who? Personally I don’t usually spend £240 yearly in the Xbox ecosystem.

 

[SenjutsuSage]

I'm fuckin confused. How can one read this article and come up with that conclusion?

Phil sounds to me like he's leaving his options open for any and EVERYTHING, but is willing to commit in writing to a form of status quo for several more years beyond the agreement.

 

[jm89]

Still waiting for an answer from Sony though.

Why would they answer a franchise that's dying?

 

[Nitty_Grimes]

Only several?

 

[FalsettoVibe]

like I’ve said on here before, people will end up thanking Jim Ryan for this GAAS/Multiplayer initiative because if Sony didn’t get Bungie and sign these big multiplayer veterans to game deals the future would be very bleak for them.

I truly do believe sony will end up having a few big multiplayer/service games that will make up for the loss of CoD especially with it going exclusive and losing a good amount of its player base.

Bungies next game, and all the other multiplayer will weather the storm

I'm super interested in what Deviation Games is working on.

 

[March Climber]

No amount of hoping will make socom relevent.

I don't care enough about SOCOM to hope that hard. I'm naming a shooter property that Sony Owns which is still held in high regard. Killzone isn't grounded enough but could technically work too. If you can think of a better I.P. though, feel free to share it.

 

[Pedro Motta]

Phil sounds to me like he's leaving his options open for any and EVERYTHING, but is willing to commit in writing to a form of status quo for several more years beyond the agreement.

And that's "gangsta" and COD is going exclusive?

 

[CaptainSlayAHo]

That's what big corporations do, they tread the line just to get tot he finish line - they're all liars in the end and want money for themselves, not others. It's sad that so many people defend a 2 trillion dollar (valued) company like they're the struggling lowly third place baby in this industry.

Why the fuck would they want money for others? You don't need to be a trillion dollar company, literally every company in existence is there to make themselves money, and if they aren't in third place, what are they?

 

[C2brixx]

If this deal goes south Microsoft and Activison should just make exclusive deals with one another the way Sony does. Activison gets to bypass all this regulation nonsense and still get their $70B granted at a much slower pace.

 

[Rossco EZ]

This is gangsta as shit.

 

[SenjutsuSage]

And that's "gangsta" and COD is going exclusive?

No. What's gangsta is that he is CLAIMING the language of the letter while also preemptively defending it by saying the guarantee they gave Sony is already beyond normal industry standards. It's a level of boldness I've rarely ever seen from Phil. It's also potentially risky depending on how the acquisition is coming along lol.

 

[SenjutsuSage]

 

[RoadHazard]

And how bizarre will it be if Phil Spencer, the champion of cross-play for games like Call of Duty, suddenly yanks the game entirely from PS and kills console cross-play entirely for the franchise?

About as bizarre as him yanking Starfield and (almost certainly) TES6 from PlayStation, even though he just wants to "give people more options".

 

[Pedro Motta]

No. What's gangsta is that he is CLAIMING the language of the letter while also preemptively defending it by saying the guarantee they gave Sony is already beyond normal industry standards. It's a level of boldness I've rarely ever seen from Phil. It's also potentially risky depending on how the acquisition is coming along lol.

This is old news by the way...gangsta.

 

[Salty Popsicle]

Why would they answer a franchise that's dying?

Because COD isn't a dying franchise...

 

[Topher]

I'm told the kid with the cigarette is Phil Spencer when he was 10. Next to him is his pal Aaron Greenberg.

 

[GHG]

No. What's gangsta is that he is CLAIMING the language of the letter while also preemptively defending it by saying the guarantee they gave Sony is already beyond normal industry standards. It's a level of boldness I've rarely ever seen from Phil. It's also potentially risky depending on how the acquisition is coming along lol.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

I don't care enough about SOCOM to hope that hard. I'm naming a shooter property that Sony Owns which is still held in high regard. Killzone isn't grounded enough but could technically work too. If you can think of a better I.P. though, feel free to share it.

I don't think any of their existing IPs can really hit it out of the part. (excluding Destiny)

Their best bet is factions, but it really needs to be something substantial and as expansive as we're being lead to believe and not just a factions 2.0.

Typical team deathmatches don't cut it anymore

 

[Mr Moose]

Because COD isn't a dying franchise...

Let's hope they stop Sledgehammer making any more CoDs then.

 

[Bragr]

Its vague shit like this thats got people all worked up about it. Its all "case by case" this and "we'll have to see".

That's because Spencer will retire soon and who knows how the new head will approach things.

 

[SenjutsuSage]

This is old news by the way...gangsta.

No, it very much is not. We knew they spoke about it and we heard about desires and talks and working with Sony on something. We did not know of an official written letter from phil committing to an agreement several years beyond sony's existing agreements with activision. This is quite a bit new. And today we have phil preemptively defending a right to do as they please AFTER by stating what they've already given Sony in writing goes well beyond normal industry standard.

This is new news son.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

This is old news by the way...gangsta.

I don't consider todays news as old news as I feel its different telling Sony they plan to honor current deals vs telling Sony it will stay on PS for years to come after current deals end

 

[darrylgorn]

Did people honestly believe that COD would be multiplatform forever?

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

No. What's gangsta is that he is CLAIMING the language of the letter while also preemptively defending it by saying the guarantee they gave Sony is already beyond normal industry standards. It's a level of boldness I've rarely ever seen from Phil. It's also potentially risky depending on how the acquisition is coming along lol.

I wish I could make fanboy posts like yours but even I can't handle this much cringe lol

 

[Jimmyisback]

This is good for Xbox. Exclusives matter.

 

[SenjutsuSage]

I'm told the kid with the cigarette is Phil Spencer when he was 10. Next to him is his pal Aaron.

Kid with the cigarette is actually CliffyB. Next to him is Jim Ryan.

 

[Banjo64]

This is old news by the way...gangsta.

Funny how there’s no mention of a time limit in that initial tweet. The double speak doesn’t reflect well.

 

[Pedro Motta]

I don't consider todays news as old news as I feel its different telling Sony they plan to honor current deals vs telling Sony it will stay on PS for years to come after current deals end

" I confirmed our intent to honor all existing agreements upon acquisition of Activision Blizzard and our desire to keep Call of Duty on PlayStation."

 

[Salty Popsicle]

Answer is Destiny

If Destiny was anywhere near as successful as COD, Activision would never have allowed Bungie to leave and take the IP with them. Also, what happened to this talk of Sony "organically" growing studios and creating new IP from scratch. Seems that talking point flys out the window when it' no longer convenient.

 

[Slicker than your average]

Phil just wants more choice for gamers (trademark)