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Replay - Fallout 3 - The best Fallout?

Paasei

Member
Fallout 2 is actually the best one, but hardly anyone plays/played that it seems.

From the 3D Fallout games I like NV just a little better than 3.
 

AndrewRyan

Member
3 is my favorite but liked NV almost as much. Loved the atmosphere and was completely immersed in that world. Might be the first RPG I completed. Wish more games used music so effectively to establish the period.
 

K2D

Banned
Fallout 3: Point Lookout DLC is decent..

and has received a stand alone overhaul mod..! Go check out out!

 

Philfrag

Banned
Fallout 3 has probably the best atmosphere out of all Fallouts. Especially early game. But like all Bethesda made Fallouts (all 2), they ruin the good parts with bad story telling.
 

SCB3

Member
Well, PS3 was my only option for trophies/achievements, as I'm only on playstation consoles and steam now. Steam has fallout 3, but no steam achievement support. The saying is right, skyrim on ps3 I heard was a nightmare. I don't know about the mothership zeta thing, is that a bug fix?
It's probaly long been fixed (or maybe not with Bethedsa) but when MZ came out, there was a significant patch for the 360 version that was delayed for at least 6 months the PS3 versiondc
First off, i've not played any of them until I started a playthrough recently of Fallout 4, i'm at about level 15 at the mo.

I'm enjoying the game so far but I can see that there isn't a whole lot of love for it compared to the others. The world is huge and detailed and there seems to be a good variety of enemies and weapons. There are several perks that can give you different options such as lockpicking and hacking although they don't seem to make a massive difference to the progression except maybe giving access to the objective without having to fight several extra enemies to find a passcode or a key. The game isn't riddled with MTs (although does have quite a bit of DLC) or any forced woke crap so what is it that makes this entry of the series less liked than the others?

Several people have mentioned the dialogue and characters? I must admit I am not a fan of long dialogues and tend to skip through them to the choices quite a bit once I get the idea of what the conversation is about.

If the earlier games are genuinely better then I look forward to playing them once I get through F4
for me 4 has a really bad pacing issue where it’s the main character having to find their son asap and it’s an emergency to find a baby in the Wasteland

In a narrative like this, wtf would you oh fuck about doing side quests or make a base? Or give a single fuck about Preston Garvey? Your son is out there, find him quick!

That’s what makes 76 refreshing for fallout as there is no emergency, no urgency to go somewhere fast! The rest of the days have that (I guess NV kinda can miss this story beat as well )
 

SafeOrAlone

Banned
They nailed the atmosphere, which is why I enjoy it the most out of all Fallout games. I just loved how desolate the world felt. Coming across mutants and battling them among city rubble just works for me. Even if it isn't really varied in that sense. Plus, the V.A.T.S. system never gets old to me, so I'm easy to please in that area.

Sort of like The Division I guess, which is another game where the atmosphere is the main hook, despite not loving the gameplay.
 

killatopak

Gold Member
I'm shocked that 3 and NV are not on Switch tbh, especially after Skyrim sold really well
Might have something to do with the Creation Engine. I don’t think they have remastered anything prior to the change from Gamebryo to Creation Engine.
 

CatLady

Selfishly plays on Xbox Purr-ies X
I love FO4 and FO:NV, but Fallout 3 is by far the best Fallout I've ever played; best game I've ever played. I so wish I could play it again for the first time. That game took over my life, I've never been as immersed in a game as FO3. Enjoy your playthrough.
 

GymWolf

Member
I re-tried f4 like 6 months ago and it was still the clunky mess that i tried when it was released, i can't even imagine how fucking atrocious f3 would be to play today gameplay wise...
 

GymWolf

Member
I love FO4 and FO:NV, but Fallout 3 is by far the best Fallout I've ever played; best game I've ever played. I so wish I could play it again for the first time. That game took over my life, I've never been as immersed in a game as FO3. Enjoy your playthrough.
Does it have THAT many cats in it?
 

MiguelItUp

Member
FO3 was my favorite overall packaged Fallout. New Vegas was neat here and there, same with FO4. But 3 felt like the tightest solid package to me.
 

TMLT

Member
First off, i've not played any of them until I started a playthrough recently of Fallout 4, i'm at about level 15 at the mo.

I'm enjoying the game so far but I can see that there isn't a whole lot of love for it compared to the others. The world is huge and detailed and there seems to be a good variety of enemies and weapons. There are several perks that can give you different options such as lockpicking and hacking although they don't seem to make a massive difference to the progression except maybe giving access to the objective without having to fight several extra enemies to find a passcode or a key. The game isn't riddled with MTs (although does have quite a bit of DLC) or any forced woke crap so what is it that makes this entry of the series less liked than the others?

Several people have mentioned the dialogue and characters? I must admit I am not a fan of long dialogues and tend to skip through them to the choices quite a bit once I get the idea of what the conversation is about.

If the earlier games are genuinely better then I look forward to playing them once I get through F4


4 feels kinda like an open world FPS more than an RPG. I really enjoyed it for the first 20 or so hours just exploring the world but I feel like the longer you play it the more its shallowness starts to become apparent.
 
Replaying it now, but on the steam deck. I always wanted to have Bethesda games on the go. I imagined playing morrowind and fallout on my psp and vita and was waiting for a dedicated handheld game. That never happened. Hell even with the switch we never got that. Enter the steam deck where I can replay all of these games. Bump down the fps to 40 for the battery bump but max out the settings. Looks and plays way better than my ps3 play though years ago. What's even better is I never beat the game back then so a lot is new.

I am really impressed with the polish on the start of the game. How it feels so original and fun. It is missing some of the crafting from fallout 4, but that's OK, this is a different experience, and the non talking main character helps immersion. It's also amazing the radio stations, music they chose, the visceral feel of chopping a head off or dismemberment. This wasn't a copy of another 3d game as far as those elements. They successfully combined tes with the fallout universe but it wasn't just oblivion with guns.

Also the lighting and sound effects were amazing. The sense of tension and atmosphere in some of the abandoned values, sewers and metro subways was amazing.

It's ashame Bethesda hasn't made anything up to this level since fallout 4. Almost 8 years ago now. Wtf is that studio even doing for years now. It can't all be fallout 76.
 
Just as an aside, in case nobody has mentioned it, New Vegas is free on Amazon Prime Gaming this week.

They also had 76 free as well, though I'm not sure if that's gone now.
 
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MidGenRefresh

*Refreshes biennially
Shame that Fallout 3 does not support cloud saves on Steam. I wanted to continue on Steam Deck but nope, I would need to start from the start. And the into is so long and so boring after you played that game 4 or 5 times.
 

SCB3

Member
Replaying it now, but on the steam deck. I always wanted to have Bethesda games on the go. I imagined playing morrowind and fallout on my psp and vita and was waiting for a dedicated handheld game. That never happened. Hell even with the switch we never got that. Enter the steam deck where I can replay all of these games. Bump down the fps to 40 for the battery bump but max out the settings. Looks and plays way better than my ps3 play though years ago. What's even better is I never beat the game back then so a lot is new.

I am really impressed with the polish on the start of the game. How it feels so original and fun. It is missing some of the crafting from fallout 4, but that's OK, this is a different experience, and the non talking main character helps immersion. It's also amazing the radio stations, music they chose, the visceral feel of chopping a head off or dismemberment. This wasn't a copy of another 3d game as far as those elements. They successfully combined tes with the fallout universe but it wasn't just oblivion with guns.

Also the lighting and sound effects were amazing. The sense of tension and atmosphere in some of the abandoned values, sewers and metro subways was amazing.

It's ashame Bethesda hasn't made anything up to this level since fallout 4. Almost 8 years ago now. Wtf is that studio even doing for years now. It can't all be fallout 76.
The same team is making Starfield and then Elder Scrolls 6

I’m hoping know that Microsoft owns the IP that Obsidian gets to do a new game, I know there’s some interest from them
 

SCB3

Member
Replaying it now, but on the steam deck. I always wanted to have Bethesda games on the go. I imagined playing morrowind and fallout on my psp and vita and was waiting for a dedicated handheld game. That never happened. Hell even with the switch we never got that. Enter the steam deck where I can replay all of these games. Bump down the fps to 40 for the battery bump but max out the settings. Looks and plays way better than my ps3 play though years ago. What's even better is I never beat the game back then so a lot is new.

I am really impressed with the polish on the start of the game. How it feels so original and fun. It is missing some of the crafting from fallout 4, but that's OK, this is a different experience, and the non talking main character helps immersion. It's also amazing the radio stations, music they chose, the visceral feel of chopping a head off or dismemberment. This wasn't a copy of another 3d game as far as those elements. They successfully combined tes with the fallout universe but it wasn't just oblivion with guns.

Also the lighting and sound effects were amazing. The sense of tension and atmosphere in some of the abandoned values, sewers and metro subways was amazing.

It's ashame Bethesda hasn't made anything up to this level since fallout 4. Almost 8 years ago now. Wtf is that studio even doing for years now. It can't all be fallout 76.
Man on Steam Deck I would love these and the Originals, thats the selling point for me, older steam library games on the go, maybe one day...
 
First off, i've not played any of them until I started a playthrough recently of Fallout 4, i'm at about level 15 at the mo.

I'm enjoying the game so far but I can see that there isn't a whole lot of love for it compared to the others. The world is huge and detailed and there seems to be a good variety of enemies and weapons. There are several perks that can give you different options such as lockpicking and hacking although they don't seem to make a massive difference to the progression except maybe giving access to the objective without having to fight several extra enemies to find a passcode or a key. The game isn't riddled with MTs (although does have quite a bit of DLC) or any forced woke crap so what is it that makes this entry of the series less liked than the others?

Several people have mentioned the dialogue and characters? I must admit I am not a fan of long dialogues and tend to skip through them to the choices quite a bit once I get the idea of what the conversation is about.

If the earlier games are genuinely better then I look forward to playing them once I get through F4
i enjoyed fallout 4 just as much as i did f3 & f:nv, so i can't really help you. i'd say that if you continue to have fun with f4, then you can be assured that there's 2 other games you're gonna enjoy, as well...
 

SCB3

Member
So not had much time to actually play, too many job applications and take home tests (is my Github account not enough to tell I know React and C# ffs! ) but finished up Megaton and off to Galaxy news, I had a weird flashback when I past a Super Duper Mart full of raiders, I remember playing this originally on PC with a Blue HUD and this area vividly, such a strange flashback to 2008

Still armed with only a Baseball bat and Megaton Sherriff armor, into the Metro underground I go
 

Mozzarella

Member
I dont want to rank them because ranking the best RPG franchise is hard. But im going to split them into tiers.

S tier:
Fallout 1, Fallout 2, Fallout New Vegas
A tier:
Fallout 3 (while the story is shit, the open world is good and the transition to 3D helped create New Vegas so i have to give it credit)
B tier:
Fallout 4, Fallout tactics
C tier:
....
D tier:
Fallout 76, Fallout shelter
 

SCB3

Member
I dont want to rank them because ranking the best RPG franchise is hard. But im going to split them into tiers.

S tier:
Fallout 1, Fallout 2, Fallout New Vegas
A tier:
Fallout 3 (while the story is shit, the open world is good and the transition to 3D helped create New Vegas so i have to give it credit)
B tier:
Fallout 4, Fallout tactics
C tier:
....
D tier:
Fallout 76, Fallout shelter
You forgot Brotherhood of Steel

Also 76 is not that bad
 
Fallout 4 > for me. The improvements to junk economy, best version of VATS, improved combat, superior enemy behaviors and reactions to being attacked, weapon customization, power armor customization, better-realized factions that you actually see fulfilling their roles in the open world, ar superior open world map design, base building, far better character customization - People think this was dumbed down, but it wasn't at all. It was just made to be further expanded with additional character customizations which made the possible builds you could create far better. I didn't understand just how good Fallout 4 was initially, but it's the best one. Where Fallout 4 pissed people off was in the dialogue choices not really matching with the choices due to the desire to have a voiced main character. Very happy they're going back to a non-voiced protag in Starfield.
 

Patrick S.

Banned
I never really got into Mass Effect, to be honest.

My big favourites from that era were Bioshock, MGS4, TLOU, Rage, and probably the original CoD MW.

Same here both are very special to me from that Era, Dead Space and CoD as well

Hell 2007-09 was an amazing year for games
All excellent games, and I agree, what an awesome time for videogames! I'll throw in another one that came out in November 2006: the first Gears of War. Man, that trailer alone gave me more enjoyment than some whole games coming out right now...
 
All excellent games, and I agree, what an awesome time for videogames! I'll throw in another one that came out in November 2006: the first Gears of War. Man, that trailer alone gave me more enjoyment than some whole games coming out right now...
Gears 2 was another massive one for me.

The more thought I give it the more I agree with your statement about it being an awesome time for video games.
 

Patrick S.

Banned
Gears 2 was another massive one for me.

The more thought I give it the more I agree with your statement about it being an awesome time for video games.
Yeah, it was just banger after banger... that's also the time we got BioShock and Crysis and the original Call of Duty: Modern Warfare and Assassin's Creed and and and....

lost jack GIF
 
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Fallout 2 > Fallout: New Vegas > Fallout > Fallout 3 > Fallout 4. They're all great games, and i'm a huge fan. And Fallout 4's expansion - Far Harbor, actually has a very good narrative. I'm in the middle of replaying all of them, half-way through (finished the original Fallout, Fallout 2, and a quarter in Fallout: New Vegas).

I wouldn't play any of them without mods though, the engine(s) that they're on have never exactly been state of the art, and age hasn't solved that issue.
 

Drizzlehell

Banned
That game completely blew my mind back in the day. At the time when I first picked it up, I wasn't very familiar with role-playing games at all, with the only ones that I ever got into at that point being KOTOR and Mass Effect. I had a much bigger preference for simpler action games, real-time strategies, or racing games, and the only kind of open world games that I played at that point was stuff like GTA. I did play a little bit of Morrowind before Fallout 3, and was certainly intrigued by the open world design (without really realizing it at the time because I was too young and too stupid) but the gameplay was just too janky for me to ever play it for more than just a few hours.

But then along came Fallout 3, and I simply couldn't believe that a game like this could even exist. It was probably the first time since I was a little kid when I played a video game that completely threw me off guard and I just didn't know what to expect. I was so fascinated with everything that it was throwing at me. I still remember the very first time I played it - I went in completely blind, without knowing absolutely anything about Fallout other than just being aware that it exists because I've read about it in a magazine. The first hour or so went by rather slowly but I was still intrigued by the setup and the premise, it was a really novel idea to role-play as a character from the moment they were born and experiencing some snippets of their childhood. I was hooked from the start, but it really wasn't until I finally stepped out of the Vault and laid my eyes on the ruined wasteland when it started to sink in that I'm playing something truly special. Expecting a great adventure, I headed towards the nearest ruins and found my way inside a building that was labeled as some sort of a school. It was there when I also got a bit of a reality check because I honestly didn't expect the game to be so gruesome and dark, with these genuine moments of horror. And that's exactly what I felt when I found out that the structure housed a bunch of crazed lunatics whose favorite pastime was decorating the hallways with dismembered human corpses. I just grabbed any supplies that I could find, fought my way out of there, and still in shock headed towards Megaton whose residents luckily turned out to be much more friendly, if not a bit eccentric.

And then things just kinda snowballed from there. I probably spent somewhere between 200-300 hours exploring the wasteland, marveling at the sheer scale of the game and the way it continuously managed to surprise me with something new and awesome. It felt like no matter which direction I decided to pick, it was pretty much guaranteed that I would soon stumble upon something so awesome that it would be enough to fill a regular linear shooter that I was so used to playing before, and I kept getting amazed that all these quests were just little drops in this vast ocean full of adventures. I still remember randomly stumbling upon a small group of Brotherhood of Steel soldiers who were going somewhere in a hurry, and when I decided to follow them, I ended up participating in this amazing action set-piece during which we took down a Super Mutant Behemoth. Or that one time when I stumbled upon a small settlement full of panicked people who turned out to be terrorized by a bunch of giant ants. Or the first time I found the Oasis and met Harold.

It was such an amazing game and it feels like I managed to play it at just the right time, when I was already familiar with gaming enough to be able to get into a complex RPG like that without too much difficulty, but also not experienced with games with such a rich lore and expansive open worlds to be completely blown away by it. What disappointed me about Fallout 4 was the fact that this magic and fascination, and the feeling of excited apprehension that you feel when you're heading into the unknown, was somehow absent from that game. It mostly just felt like going through the motions, and there was very little in that game that managed to truly take me by surprise or get me excited about exploring new locations. So much of that game just felt like a chore, honestly, and what made things even worse were those crafting mechanics and base building, which I just wasn't interested in doing AT ALL. I ended up playing some of that game, and it had a few decent moments, but honestly, I never even bothered to finish the main storyline, and with each attempt to play it through til the end, I ultimately grew to absolutely hate this game.

Fallout 3 was magical, but Fallout 4 sucks ass.
 
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