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Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 IOTI Keep Your Friends Close And Your Danger Closer

01011001

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Played Warzone 2 today and was kinda shocked that they actually didn't fix the shitty controller aiming since the beta...

it's official guys... CoD now has the worst controller aiming compared to its immediate competition... what a wild world we live in.
once the game that perfected it, now it's behind the competition both in options and feel... wild...
 
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Played Warzone 2 today and was kinda shocked that they actually didn't fix the shitty controller aiming since the beta...

it's official guys... CoD now has the worst controller aiming compared to its immediate competition... what a wild world we live in.
once the game that perfected it, now it's behind the competition both in options and feel... wild...
What’s wrong with
 

Sub_Level

wants to fuck an Asian grill.
Played Warzone 2 today and was kinda shocked that they actually didn't fix the shitty controller aiming since the beta...

it's official guys... CoD now has the worst controller aiming compared to its immediate competition... what a wild world we live in.
once the game that perfected it, now it's behind the competition both in options and feel... wild...

Lol wat. This thread is full of criticism but I think you might be the first person in the thread who doesn't like the controller aiming. I can't think of a shooter that plays more smoothly on console.

I see that was on Taraq. I haven't found a good groove on this map. What was your strategy on this pop-off match?

I can post the saved gameplay after work. Its just running and gunning with a tac insert :)
 
Lol wat. This thread is full of criticism but I think you might be the first person in the thread who doesn't like the controller aiming. I can't think of a shooter that plays more smoothly on console.



I can post the saved gameplay after work. Its just running and gunning with a tac insert :)
Cool, I'd certainly take a gander if I know where it's posted!
 

01011001

Banned
What’s wrong with

the game has aim acceleration that can not be turned off and seemingly affects most of the stick range. and it also seems to me to have aim smoothing which also can not be turned off.

aim acceleration, also often called ramp-up-time, is when your turn speed isn't only affected by how far you move the stick to the side, but also by how long you hold it there

with acceleration in place, especially in the form it is implemented here, you can never be sure how fast your aim will move unless you let go of the stick/center the stick after every camera turn you do. this is because the accelerated max speed seems to stay active for as long as the stick is moved.

furthermore there seems to be smoothing applied as well, tho I'm not entirely sure, it does feel like it tho. because I noticed that my turn speed seems to accelerate at different rates depending on how fast I move the stick to the side, with the game seemingly trying to smooth out overly quick stick moves.

both of these things are usually implemented as sort of training wheel mechanics in order to help novice players to "aim smoother"

but if you want full and unfiltered control over your aim, you won't be able to get that in Modern Warfare 2.

CoD always had some subtle aim acceleration in the past, which isn't optimal of course, but this year they shit the bed imo.

back during the beta I was so taken back by how the aiming felt that I first thought I remembered wrong how old CoD games' aiming felt like.
so I legit installed Black Ops 1, 2 and og Modern Warfare 2 on my Series X just to check. and my memory wasn't wrong, the aiming was way better (although those games are missing many options you'd expect in a modern game of course)


so yeah. it's so bad in this game that even with max sensitivity of 20 I can not do a fast flick while hipfireing, the smoothing and acceleration basically try to prevent me from doing fast flicks that are too extreme.

tldr: the game has training wheels on the right stick inputs to help noobs, but this makes the aim feel restrictive to someone like me who plays shooters with high sensitivity settings daily without those training wheels.

imagine you wanna ride a bike fast around a sharp corner... well, not image it has training wheels on it and they are welded on... sure as long as you ride is slowly and don't try to do fast turns and agile moves you're fine and beginners will appreciate not falling on their faces, but if you know how to ride a bike these wheels will get fucking annoying.


Lol wat. This thread is full of criticism but I think you might be the first person in the thread who doesn't like the controller aiming. I can't think of a shooter that plays more smoothly on console.

no offense but most people on this forum also just aren't good at shooters and wouldn't know what half the options mean that are missing in the game or are in the game.
 
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Sub_Level

wants to fuck an Asian grill.
BTW what it was somewhat lost in the shuffle but they added stats.

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Not too shabby :messenger_sunglasses: W/L would be over 2.00 if it wasn't for leveling the snipers lol
 

calistan

Member
BTW what it was somewhat lost in the shuffle but they added stats.

tele.jpg


Not too shabby :messenger_sunglasses: W/L would be over 2.00 if it wasn't for leveling the snipers lol
It's meaningless without the ability to see other people's stats, though. I have no idea how I compare to my friends or the random ninja who topped the leaderboard with a 36-0 score. I hope they add that back in soon, I'm sure it's been in all the CoDs I've played in the past.
 

splattered

Member
I've seen a lot of debate on here on KBM vs Controller and aim assist etc. I don't LIKE the aim assist in this game, i do wish it could be toned down a LOT, but i will say as a controller user my frustrations playing vs KBM are more with the mouse advantages of speed and near instant range of motion. So many matches i've seen people basically instant 180 and kill me, flick from one edge of the screen to the other to shoot people etc etc. There is definitely a huge advantage there whether people want to admit it or not.

*Also luckily i haven't had a single freeze yet on XSX knock on wood
 
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NickFire

Member
I've seen a lot of debate on here on KBM vs Controller and aim assist etc. I don't LIKE the aim assist in this game, i do wish it could be toned down a LOT, but i will say as a controller user my frustrations playing vs KBM are more with the mouse advantages of speed and near instant range of motion. So many matches i've seen people basically instant 180 and kill me, flick from one edge of the screen to the other to shoot people etc etc. There is definitely a huge advantage there whether people want to admit it or not.

*Also luckily i haven't had a single freeze yet on XSX knock on wood
If you turn up your ADS sensitivity it turns down aim assist as I understand.
 

HeisenbergFX4

Gold Member
Its so frustrating :(
I hope they solve it asap i need to reach prestige 2 :(
I hope my console is not fucked up :(
I am not freezing all the time but fairly often when checking for update and right after a match seems to be the most common

Its not your console as both my Series X here are doing it
 
the game has aim acceleration that can not be turned off and seemingly affects most of the stick range. and it also seems to me to have aim smoothing which also can not be turned off.

aim acceleration, also often called ramp-up-time, is when your turn speed isn't only affected by how far you move the stick to the side, but also by how long you hold it there

with acceleration in place, especially in the form it is implemented here, you can never be sure how fast your aim will move unless you let go of the stick/center the stick after every camera turn you do. this is because the accelerated max speed seems to stay active for as long as the stick is moved.

furthermore there seems to be smoothing applied as well, tho I'm not entirely sure, it does feel like it tho. because I noticed that my turn speed seems to accelerate at different rates depending on how fast I move the stick to the side, with the game seemingly trying to smooth out overly quick stick moves.

both of these things are usually implemented as sort of training wheel mechanics in order to help novice players to "aim smoother"

but if you want full and unfiltered control over your aim, you won't be able to get that in Modern Warfare 2.

CoD always had some subtle aim acceleration in the past, which isn't optimal of course, but this year they shit the bed imo.

back during the beta I was so taken back by how the aiming felt that I first thought I remembered wrong how old CoD games' aiming felt like.
so I legit installed Black Ops 1, 2 and og Modern Warfare 2 on my Series X just to check. and my memory wasn't wrong, the aiming was way better (although those games are missing many options you'd expect in a modern game of course)


so yeah. it's so bad in this game that even with max sensitivity of 20 I can not do a fast flick while hipfireing, the smoothing and acceleration basically try to prevent me from doing fast flicks that are too extreme.

tldr: the game has training wheels on the right stick inputs to help noobs, but this makes the aim feel restrictive to someone like me who plays shooters with high sensitivity settings daily without those training wheels.

imagine you wanna ride a bike fast around a sharp corner... well, not image it has training wheels on it and they are welded on... sure as long as you ride is slowly and don't try to do fast turns and agile moves you're fine and beginners will appreciate not falling on their faces, but if you know how to ride a bike these wheels will get fucking annoying.




no offense but most people on this forum also just aren't good at shooters and wouldn't know what half the options mean that are missing in the game or are in the game.
You can set the controller aim to linear or dynamic. I thought that was about the acceleration curve? But maybe not…

As you said I’m casual af, so it doesn’t feel off to me.

I also tried the gyro aiming, but it’s only working for me in cases where I’m sniping a target far away, close combat ads becomes impossible for me with it on.
 

MastAndo

Gold Member
Man i thought i was doing bad with the 0.97 KD but seeing others's here i guess it's not so bad.

My W/L is only like .68 though, wtf
I'm at a 1.02 and felt like throwing a parade for myself, lol. I saw a K/D reddit thread and almost everyone is hovering around 1. It's clearly by design of of the SBMM, so it doesn't really mean anything.

My W/L is .55 though, how embarrassing. Every time I start playing I'm dropped into a match that is all but over...and I usually drop out of the queue after most matches since there isn't enough time for me to obsessively tinker with guns and loadouts, so ending up in games in progress is happening a lot. That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it.
 

HeisenbergFX4

Gold Member
I am shocked I am an even 1.0 KD after playing so many matches just being stupid like going only for launcher kills (fuck that Jokr) and a .96 w/l

The little gun screen they added is kind of cool but wish they showed lifetime stats on each gun
 

8BiTw0LF

Banned
I am shocked I am an even 1.0 KD after playing so many matches just being stupid like going only for launcher kills (fuck that Jokr) and a .96 w/l

The little gun screen they added is kind of cool but wish they showed lifetime stats on each gun
Same. I've only camo grinded and been through some really ruff games.
 

Mossybrew

Member
So the battle pass token things, I assume they fill up just based on regular xp gain? or I wonder if it takes anything else into account like match wins.
 

chris121580

Member
Am I missing something or do you really have to exit out each time you lose in Warzone 2.0? You can't just put yourself back in the queue?
 

Danknugz

Member
This has been my call of duty expirience on a high end pc. Day 1-2 crashing non stop. Day 3-4 game wont even load anymore. I reinstalled windows and reinstalled the game about 5-6 times. Scanned and repaired about 40 times ran everything in admin mode and get the same error over and over. No help from blizzard / battle.net. Nothing on the internet works. I have no idea what to do anymore. The more help button tells me to run the game in admin mode.

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what's your specs?
 

clarky

Gold Member


Bad.

I haven't played it yet.. is it really horrible?
Its Warzone. Bit rough around the edges.

Crashes alot on pc in my experience, moved to xbox till they sort it
loads of lag last few games. servers must be getting absolutely slammed
 
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HeisenbergFX4

Gold Member
I just don't get the SBMM in this game

Have a few decent games (for me anyhow) to start the day and SBMM is like

Take It Personally Michael Jordan GIF


Throws me into a Shoot House Kill Confirmed with 3 guys all above 120 in level and grinding their M13s using this video for their resume into the CDL

Does SBMM think my 1.0 k/d isnt enough to prove thats where I should be and somehow overnight I became a pro?
 

calistan

Member
I just don't get the SBMM in this game

Have a few decent games (for me anyhow) to start the day and SBMM is like

Take It Personally Michael Jordan GIF


Throws me into a Shoot House Kill Confirmed with 3 guys all above 120 in level and grinding their M13s using this video for their resume into the CDL

Does SBMM think my 1.0 k/d isnt enough to prove thats where I should be and somehow overnight I became a pro?
You only have that 1.0 k/d because SBMM throws you to the wolves every now and then.
 

GenericUser

Member
I just don't get the SBMM in this game

Have a few decent games (for me anyhow) to start the day and SBMM is like

Take It Personally Michael Jordan GIF


Throws me into a Shoot House Kill Confirmed with 3 guys all above 120 in level and grinding their M13s using this video for their resume into the CDL

Does SBMM think my 1.0 k/d isnt enough to prove thats where I should be and somehow overnight I became a pro?
Just take the bullshit rounds and move on. Maybe just try to annoy the other tryhards a little bit, but don't care about losing or winning in this game. It's not in your hands anyway. The game decides when it's your turn to have fun, so you can only try to make the unfun rounds a little more entertaining by trolling people or doing whatever you feel like doing.
 
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twilo99

Member
Its Warzone. Bit rough around the edges.

Crashes alot on pc in my experience, moved to xbox till they sort it
loads of lag last few games. servers must be getting absolutely slammed

yeah that's normal. The map looks amazing so I think they can figure out the rest. That map must've taken A LOT of work to complete.

I'll give it a go today.
 

GenericUser

Member
And now I have the max token glitch.

Wonder if they are keeping track of how many one earns while it’s staying at zero
I had that glitch all day. Don't worry, your earned tokens are not lost. After a couple of rounds you see the real number. It's just bugged, but rest assured no earned tokens are lost.

I like to save up tokens and do a full board unlock, so losing earned tokens would fuck me extra hard. Thank god that is not the case.
 
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clarky

Gold Member
yeah that's normal. The map looks amazing so I think they can figure out the rest. That map must've taken A LOT of work to complete.

I'll give it a go today.
Gripes so far.

The ping system is a massive step back. Hard to see what you or your team mates have pinged, be it a contract or POI,even on the tac map.

Contracts are tiny.

Looting needs work.

The colour system for rarity needs to come back.

Resurgence mode when? Thats my go to mode.

On the plus side.

The map is great

Game feels as good as ever.

Gun balance seems fine.

Prox chat rules.

All my gripes can be sorted over time. Overall i think is a positive change that was needed as the original was fucked with the 3 game integration, although base warzone in the early days wont be topped.
 
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twilo99

Member
Game feels as good as ever.

Gun balance seems fine.

Prox chat rules.

I think you must be a minority because I'm reading so many complaints about the gameplay. It seems like they made it better for casual players, which is a good thing I guess. I

I guess the "pro" scene needs a different game. Maybe go play Quake if you want a high skill ceiling lol
 
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