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[TGO]

The whole "4K Blu-Ray" format release was -ironically- the thing that made me quit physical movies. I spent years carefully curating a BD collection that is now being treated as obsolete because a new format is on the market. They pretend people to repurchase the same movies again in the new hot format. Someday 8K will apear and the process will repeat, and so on, so on. I'm not getting into that money pit.

It has always been like this. First VHS got surpasssed by DVDs, then Blu-rays, now 4K Blu-rays, etc. Meanwhile, the HD movies I purchased on iTunes got automatically upgraded to 4K, with no aditional cost. And I can bet my ass that when 8K streaming becomes a thing, they will be upgraded to that too.

I know it technically doesn't have the same quality as a 4K disc, but it gets really, really close, and it's only getting better:

As a collector I can't say I agree.
I still buy Blu-ray's and 4K for releases that get the newly scanned treatment.
Older release especially as most of the Blu-ray release in the 2000's wasn't done that well so the difference is striking.
Ironically I have noticed the difference in digital & physical releases in 4k being a lot more then bitrate.
Some digital platforms have use the older scan from the Blu-ray release which look better then the original Blu-ray due to resolution but looks a bit in bad shape compared 4K Blu-ray which has had the new scan done by the studio for that release.
But most new releases are fine on digital.
In terms of "collecting digital"
I don't bother as most of the stuff I did have digitally are no longer accessable.
As for games, I have a shit load on PS3 but like the physical copies they're tied to that platform.

 

[Meicyn]

it's kind of a joke to imply that sudden some phenomenon (it's not) that's going to destroy every single piece of disc based media

lmao

Dude, all I did was give OP who wants to go full digital feedback on what I did and why. There is no agenda you weirdo. I wasn’t implying anything. I have two games that have disc rot, and I decided I don’t want to bother with physical media anymore. It’s that simple. Enjoy your physical media, I’m not here to convert.

This is in terms of lifetime, you basically picked a game from a non-digital era with no legal digital equivalent. What the hell are you hopping to achieve?
And who's even forcing your hand in the first place on your choice besides yourself?

ok

 

[ShadyAcshuns]

I wouldn't say I've switched or converted to digital, but I have gone all-digital on Xbox, and I occasionally buy digital titles on Switch and PlayStation, but I still go mostly physical with those guys. My physical collection of Xbox games is very small, while I have tons of physical PlayStation and Nintendo games.

Reason being I still don't trust Nintendo and Sony enough to handle my collection. Things like strict refund policies, lack of proper backwards compatibility and so on.

 

[Alter_Fridge]

On PC it is an easy choice. On the 0% chance something happens to Steam I would just pirate my library.

I lost the email account linked to my Steam, so I'm gonna pirate the games I legally bought and I dont have an issue with that

 

[Alter_Fridge]

My copy of Panzer Dragoon Saga disc 2 with disc rot says hello. I literally cannot get my Sega Saturn to recognize the disc because there are tiny pinholes that appeared. Disc rot also occurred on my copy of Sonic 3D Blast.

I guess I should just go buy another copy of Panzer Dragoon Saga off ebay for $900.

I don’t know why this is even a discussion anyways, who the fuck are you to dictate to me or anyone else how we should purchase games, digital or otherwise.

What about a disc cleaner lopping off a few layers? Might work

 

[JayK47]

Remember when publishers withheld content on the disk to discourage the second hand market? And now with digital being mainstream, it is amazing that there is still a second hand market. With digital, you "own" it for life. No chance to sell it. There are risks with digital. Digital is 100% win for the publishers with some benefits for end users.

 

[Meicyn]

What about a disc cleaner lopping off a few layers? Might work

Appreciate the help, but the root issue isn’t scratches on the surface of the disc, as there are pinholes in the inner layer where the data is stored, followed by corrosion around those pinholes that appeared at some point. It’s slowly getting worse on both discs as I haven’t tossed them out. Most of my Saturn library is fine, and 3 out of the 4 Panzer Dragoon Saga discs are fine. If I acquired a new disc 2, I could replay the game again. But no one is going to sell just one disc of a game worth nearly a grand.

There are some pinholes on a few other Saturn discs as well, yet thankfully all those games run just fine. It’s just the aforementioned two games where corrosion occurred. The most likely culprit is that some form of contamination happened to get in during the manufacturing of those specific discs.

 

[Alter_Fridge]

Appreciate the help, but the root issue isn’t scratches on the surface of the disc, as there are pinholes in the inner layer where the data is stored, followed by corrosion around those pinholes that appeared at some point. It’s slowly getting worse on both discs as I haven’t tossed them out. Most of my Saturn library is fine, and 3 out of the 4 Panzer Dragoon Saga discs are fine. If I acquired a new disc 2, I could replay the game again. But no one is going to sell just one disc of a game worth nearly a grand.

There are some pinholes on a few other Saturn discs as well, yet thankfully all those games run just fine. It’s just the aforementioned two games where corrosion occurred. The most likely culprit is that some form of contamination happened to get in during the manufacturing of those specific discs.

Sounds like a Saturn disc manufacturing process issue. The vast majority of my disc media collection has no issues of rot and a lot are 25-30+ years old

 

[Meicyn]

Sounds like a Saturn disc manufacturing process issue. The vast majority of my disc media collection has no issues of rot and a lot are 25-30+ years old

I think Sega had some QC issues in general. Around the Dreamcast launch, there were defective GD-ROM discs.

Defective Dreamcast GD-ROMs

GameSpot News uncovers how to spot a defective Dreamcast GD-ROM. Full details and pictures inside.

www.gamespot.com

I have a lot of legit, not-bootleg videogame soundtracks that all work great and have zero issues. And on that note, I should probably re-rip some of them into lossless format, just in case…

 

[Roman Empire]

My only excuse for not going full digital is that some Big Name games I like to own physically, and secondhand market for games I don't grab on launch come handy before any significant sale happens (especially for single-player games).

I'd say my gaming is done 95% through digital media since 2013 and I don't really regret it. Playing on PC has been 100% digital for me since 2008 I think, and I don't really miss buying physical games because of how open the platform is. Now for consoles... I have a huge backlog as well but can't say I don't dread the day Nintendo/Sony/Microsoft have full control of their stores through 100% digital market even though gaming now has been the most accessible since its inception despite the price hikes of the current console generation.

Embracing the digital market will be inevitable for this media in a not so far away future. All the big companies are pushing the digital future pretty hard and we'll have to sadly accept it. Secondhand digital market could become a thing if these companies really wanted it and let the users resell their licenses to potential buyers but this is a topic for another day.

 

[BootsLoader]

Ok, Digital is cool and all that. The problem is that when you buy digital games, in reality, you own nothing.

 

[Braag]

I went 100% digital in 2013.
Digital libraries are great and easy to maintain but also easy to get cluttered. I don't buy bundles which have 10 games in them of which only 1 is of interest for me. I try to only purchase games that I know I will at some point play. I have 590 games in Steam and I've tried to keep it as clutter free as possible. Also having so many games makes it a little hard to categorize them. Steam's library is okay but lacks stuff like sub-categories.
Also being able to permanently delete a game from your library in Steam was handy when I had some god awful shovelware games there which I had received somewhere, so I could just get rid of them to reduce clutter.

 

[Alter_Fridge]

NeoGAF is split in two, regarding the decision between digital or physical games.
To those buying physical games, where do you find the space ?
I own around 1000 games on PS ecosystem, around 300 games on PC (Steam/Epic), around 150 games on Switch (digital all). I ve also gone full digital on music (Spotify mainly).
I live in 80 sqm with wife and honestly cant imagine where i would put all that

I don't think many people would own 2000 pieces of gaming media

Unless you're Joel Hopkins

 

[cireza]

My copy of Panzer Dragoon Saga disc 2 with disc rot says hello. I literally cannot get my Sega Saturn to recognize the disc because there are tiny pinholes that appeared. Disc rot also occurred on my copy of Sonic 3D Blast.

I guess I should just go buy another copy of Panzer Dragoon Saga off ebay for $900.

I don’t know why this is even a discussion anyways, who the fuck are you to dictate to me or anyone else how we should purchase games, digital or otherwise.

I have a ton of SEGA CD, Saturn and DC games and never had disc rot even once. I really question how the games having disc rot have actually been handled.

 

[Meicyn]

I have a ton of SEGA CD, Saturn and DC games and never had disc rot even once. I really question how the games having disc rot have actually been handled.

I threw my copy of Panzer Dragoon Saga valued at nearly a grand in US dollars in the toilet and flushed it. Then I pooped on it. It was unfortunate that only disc 2 was affected. I plan to do something similar to my Shining Force 3 Premium Disc. Might put it in the dishwasher afterwards. Gonna leave my copy of Lunar 2 Eternal Blue outside so the snow and ice can damage it.

Seriously, as someone who has hundreds of authentic imported game music soundtracks including Shining Force 2 Symphonic Suite and the original print for Azel Panzer Dragoon RPG, and has his Eternal Arcadia Limited Box displayed on a shelf alongside other collector’s items from the Sega era before they left the console market, how do you think I treat my stuff?

 

[Salmon]

Nope! I wanna own my games. Digital is just stupid.

 

[Filben]

Physical versions is one of consoles' features why I even have a console. If I want digital I go for PC. That is, I mainly play on PC, but if we get a shitty port I'm gladly buying the physical edition for console in 9/10 times. I like the ritual to pull it off the shelf and insert the disc. It's this little appreciation through habit and ritual that elevates the whole gaming sessions beyond fast food intake. What is for others a convenience to switch through five games in ten seconds without getting up from the couch, I embrace it, the commitment.

It's also the fact I can lend and borrow games.

I would also never pay a company extra for something I already have if it doesn't provide significant more value for me. If having a digital entry is enough value for others, that's fine by me. But I wouldn't pay five bucks for a digital game I already own physical.

However, I did make digital copies just in case of some very old games I have on disc that aren't in any digital store or are rarely sold on ebay.

 

[Knightime_X]

I'm now 100% digital.
Just learn what a sale is and take advantage of them.
Only buy games day 1 you plan to keep and want immediately.
If there is a game you're interested in, but you feel like you won't even get to it until like 2+ years from now, just wait it out.
By the time you're ready, it'll be cheap. Or just buy it when it's on sale and get around to it later.

Some sites like https://www.fanatical.com/ have insanely good deals.
Like 10 games for $5, good luck finding that with physical.

 

[cireza]

I threw my copy of Panzer Dragoon Saga valued at nearly a grand in US dollars in the toilet and flushed it. Then I pooped on it. It was unfortunate that only disc 2 was affected. I plan to do something similar to my Shining Force 3 Premium Disc. Might put it in the dishwasher afterwards. Gonna leave my copy of Lunar 2 Eternal Blue outside so the snow and ice can damage it.

No wonder your discs have problems.

 

[GeekyDad]

 

[Damigos]

I don't think many people would own 2000 pieces of gaming media

Unless you're Joel Hopkins

Its not that much if you re playing for 25 years

 

[Tams]

The whole "4K Blu-Ray" format release was -ironically- the thing that made me quit physical movies. I spent years carefully curating a BD collection that is now being treated as obsolete because a new format is on the market. They pretend people to repurchase the same movies again in the new hot format. Someday 8K will apear and the process will repeat, and so on, so on. I'm not getting into that money pit.

It has always been like this. First VHS got surpasssed by DVDs, then Blu-rays, now 4K Blu-rays, etc. Meanwhile, the HD movies I purchased on iTunes got automatically upgraded to 4K, with no aditional cost. And I can bet my ass that when 8K streaming becomes a thing, they will be upgraded to that too.

I know it technically doesn't have the same quality as a 4K disc, but it gets really, really close, and it's only getting better:

The sound is the biggest difference. And considering how much more storage 8k takes and how the storage technology has almost plateaued, I wouldn't bet on getting free '8k' upgrades.

 

[Tams]

Physical where I can, but I'm not adverse to digital media.

I only really play on PC and Switch. On PC there's really not much choice these days, especially if in the case of remastered old games (except for some fan mods that sometimes require the disk version). With the sales and, ummm, yarrrr if need be, that's not an issue for me. On the Switch its really no different that it was. Sure, there are almost always downloads/updates for physical versions and they won't be around forever, but again, yarrrr.

For books, I'm getting more and more eBooks. And for films I only really stream these days.

So, bar the Switch which I get physical games for if I can, I only get physical copies for media that is my favourite. I have Age of Empires and Mini Ninjas on disk. I have the Blu-rays for Rush Hour and the Blood and Icecream Trilogy. I have The Lord of the Rings and the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Trilogy as physical books. Etc.

My one rule is that if I've bought it once, then I have a personal copy for eternity (effectively my life, as I expect most of my horde to be binned on my death). I will only pay for something once generally, unless I really want to support something and/or it's at a great convenience for me that I can't (be bothered) to do myself.

 

[Boneless]

PC, digital. Console, physical.

This is the way.

 

[DaGwaphics]

When I look at my big physical games collection (7 games) I realize that I need to take some time and plan out my conversion strategy.

Seriously though, just buy whatever you want. Not really something that needs to be debated.

 

[U n i o n 0015]

I've switched to entirely digital. It helped that when I transitioned to PC mostly, physical editions tend to be more rare anyway.

I use a launcher called Playnite, I find or create my own DVD box-sized cover art, so as I scroll through my collection, I still get that feeling of looking through my games and admiring the art. I love it.

 

[U n i o n 0015]

I guess I should just go buy another copy of Panzer Dragoon Saga off ebay for $900.

Ouch. Glad I sold my copy of PDS a few years ago for $1400 in that case...

Honestly, just emulate the game. Put a good CRT filter on it and it's 99% of the original experience anyway.

 

[speckz]

Is this even possible now? I don't think it is.

 

[Happosai]

During the ps3 era I was buying mostly physical games and then the next gen I started buying exclusively digital games (except for one or two imports that weren’t available locally). I’m in the process of converting my physical library to digital by waiting until a ps3 game goes on sale on Steam or the PlayStation store for cheap and then I buy the digital version and sell my physical copy to reduce my clutter / shelf usage. The ps3 games I already own digitally are totally fine and I keep them but otherwise if there’s a new port available on Steam/PS5/PS4 then I make the switch. Eventually I guess I’ll get down to a few exclusives like 3d dot game heroes or MGS4 that aren’t available on any other platform and then I’ll just keep those discs. I wish the ps3 store still had sales as there are a few ps3 exclusives I want to convert to their digital version.

Has anyone else gone through the process of switching to all digital?

I love DLCs but with regard to leaving physical behind someday...

 

[93xfan]

During the ps3 era I was buying mostly physical games and then the next gen I started buying exclusively digital games (except for one or two imports that weren’t available locally). I’m in the process of converting my physical library to digital by waiting until a ps3 game goes on sale on Steam or the PlayStation store for cheap and then I buy the digital version and sell my physical copy to reduce my clutter / shelf usage. The ps3 games I already own digitally are totally fine and I keep them but otherwise if there’s a new port available on Steam/PS5/PS4 then I make the switch. Eventually I guess I’ll get down to a few exclusives like 3d dot game heroes or MGS4 that aren’t available on any other platform and then I’ll just keep those discs. I wish the ps3 store still had sales as there are a few ps3 exclusives I want to convert to their digital version.

Has anyone else gone through the process of switching to all digital?

Yes, OP. Waiting for sales was definitely the thing to do.

Also converted platforms as well. Rebought a ton of games and am now on my preferred platform

 

[Ridaxan]

Before the PS4 came out, I sold all my PS3 and 360 games and re-purchased the titles that were cross platform (and more importantly the ones that I actually cared about) on steam. PS4/PS5 has been all digital for me.

The Switch is the only platform that I still buy physical copies for (mostly for the rest of the family), simply because I don't trust Nintendo.

 

[Celcius]

I've made a ton of progress on this and I'm down to only a handful of physical games. One of those games is Gran Turismo 6 on ps3. Based on my research it used to be available digitally but was delisted years ago due to expiring licenses with car manufacturers. I know Sony doesn't sell the game anymore on the PS Store but is it possible to buy a key from a 3rd party seller and then redeem it? I know you can do this with some other delisted games but I'm not sure if this game in particular was ever available anywhere else...

 

[Nitty_Grimes]

I'll continue to go with what offers me the most cash savings over convenience any day of the week.

 

[jshackles]

I've made a ton of progress on this and I'm down to only a handful of physical games. One of those games is Gran Turismo 6 on ps3. Based on my research it used to be available digitally but was delisted years ago due to expiring licenses with car manufacturers. I know Sony doesn't sell the game anymore on the PS Store but is it possible to buy a key from a 3rd party seller and then redeem it? I know you can do this with some other delisted games but I'm not sure if this game in particular was ever available anywhere else...

As far as I'm aware, the only way to play it now is with a physical copy. "Welcome to your all digital future", and all that.

 

[gothmog]

I got rid of most of my physical entertainment media. Anything rare I set aside, ripped, and put on my Synology so I can watch on plex. I went from having multiple bookshelves of shit to a few small boxes of stuff I want to keep and a small library of stuff that looks good on a shelf.

Gaming wise I still have things like PDS and the Lunar originals among others I keep for their value. Everything else I either traded in or sold. Anything truly rare like original disks of Arena and Daggerfall I ripped years ago and keep as nostalgia in a small box with other golden age of computing stuff.

 

[phil_t98]

Ok, Digital is cool and all that. The problem is that when you buy digital games, in reality, you own nothing.

do you get to play the game you bought? do you get to continue playing it long after you finished it?

 

[BootsLoader]

do you get to play the game you bought? do you get to continue playing it long after you finished it?

I buy only the games I will play, sometimes after I may play it after I finish it, sometimes not. What is the point of your question?

 

[coffinbirth]

that is a valid argument. yeah you need to take care of your discs. they can be scratched, cracked, shattered, burned, lost, stolen etc

disc rot is real but i don't know if it's worth worrying about. i'm not sure but i thought it was expected they'd take like 50-100 years (depending on how they are stored) before they rotted.

i have some games from 20+ years ago for my PS1 and they still play fine on my PS2. i have them all backed up just in case though.

Depends on how the disc was manufactured. Most if not all CD-ROM games , and also Dreamcast are susceptible to it more so than others. I've been seeing it in GameCube and Xbox 360 games more and more now too. It will eventually happen to all of it though. It's actually the label side of the disc that tends to be the issue. A large chunk of my Sega CD and Saturn collection had it. My entire vintage game collection was stolen during a move about ten years ago, so I couldn't tell you the state of like NEO CD or Jaguar CD now, but it's probably bad. For reference, I live in a pretty humid climate, so I have no doubt that played a large role. I remember I could see all the way through parts of my Bug! disc without even holding it up to the light.

Years prior to this I experienced disc rot in nearly all of my Atlantic and Elektra label audio cd's that they used from the 80's-90's. Some of them had the foil data layer flaking off because there was next to nothing coating it.

Keep in mind, these were all kept in their cases and on shelves.

Not my pic, but that's what my Saturn games looked like

 

[phil_t98]

I buy only the games I will play, sometimes after I may play it after I finish it, sometimes not. What is the point of your question?

your getting the same thing except one comes with a plastic box

 

[Meicyn]

Depends on how the disc was manufactured. Most if not all CD-ROM games , and also Dreamcast are susceptible to it more so than others. I've been seeing it in GameCube and Xbox 360 games more and more now too. It will eventually happen to all of it though. It's actually the label side of the disc that tends to be the issue. A large chunk of my Sega CD and Saturn collection had it. My entire vintage game collection was stolen during a move about ten years ago, so I couldn't tell you the state of like NEO CD or Jaguar CD now, but it's probably bad. For reference, I live in a pretty humid climate, so I have no doubt that played a large role. I remember I could see all the way through parts of my Bug! disc without even holding it up to the light.

Years prior to this I experienced disc rot in nearly all of my Atlantic and Elektra label audio cd's that they used from the 80's-90's. Some of them had the foil data layer flaking off because there was next to nothing coating it.

Keep in mind, these were all kept in their cases and on shelves.

Not my pic, but that's what my Saturn games looked like

Yep, that looks somewhat similar to what happened to my disc 2 for Panzer Dragoon Saga. It’s a complete mystery as to why it only happened to that disc, and not the other three. It’s also not as bad as that picture, but you only need a little bit in the right spot to make the disc unreadable.

 

[BootsLoader]

your getting the same thing except one comes with a plastic box

No, because if your console and/or account is banned you lose your games and the ability to play them.
If there is a cyber attack on their servers and you lose your account you also lose the ability to play your games, you also lose your games.
If for any reason you want to download a game but you do not have internet connection (and that game is not already downloaded on your console) you can't play that game.

If you have that plastic box with the disc you are not affected by the above.

 

[phil_t98]

No, because if your console and/or account is banned you lose your games and the ability to play them.
If there is a cyber attack on their servers and you lose your account you also lose the ability to play your games, you also lose your games.
If for any reason you want to download a game but you do not have internet connection (and that game is not already downloaded on your console) you can't play that game.

If you have that plastic box with the disc you are not affected by the above.

Why would my console or account get banned.

There is now two form factor to protect your account so things like hacking accounts or changing emails can’t happen

There is a thing called offline mode where you can still play your games. Hard drive tech is getting cheap enough to store your games.

You also get two licences with digital content so you and a friend can play the game at the same time together. When you lend your disc you can t play the game.

If you’re clever and discuss with a friend you can work it out what games you want and spend half the cash.

 

[BootsLoader]

Why would my console or account get banned.

There is now two form factor to protect your account so things like hacking accounts or changing emails can’t happen

There is a thing called offline mode where you can still play your games. Hard drive tech is getting cheap enough to store your games.

You also get two licences with digital content so you and a friend can play the game at the same time together. When you lend your disc you can t play the game.

If you’re clever and discuss with a friend you can work it out what games you want and spend half the cash.

Accounts can be banned for many reasons. You may be "troll reported" also.

As for two form factor, I am not talking about 1 account that can be hacked (which is possible). I am talking about cyber attacks: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_PlayStation_Network_outage iirc Sony gave some credits to the accounts that had been lost, the problem is that the credit was to little in comparison with what people lost.

For offline mode, you can't bring all your library with you obviously (games grow bigger and bigger) but you can bring all your discs. If you have a game that you did not download because of storage, if you're offline, you're unable to play it. On the other hand you can just insert the disc in the console and play, without worrying about storage or connectivity issues.

I never had a game with double license which I can give it to a friend, this really sounds good and yes, discs can't do that. On the other hand, your friend can't borrow your digital library as easy as physical discs. You have to give credentials from your account, in comparison with discs where you just give the disc and that is all.

I didn't quite understand the last suggestion, you can do the same for discs, there is no difference in that. Actually in discs it is better because you don't have to use an account to play the game (game is no bound to account).

 

[phil_t98]

Accounts can be banned for many reasons. You may be "troll reported" also.

As for two form factor, I am not talking about 1 account that can be hacked (which is possible). I am talking about cyber attacks: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_PlayStation_Network_outage iirc Sony gave some credits to the accounts that had been lost, the problem is that the credit was to little in comparison with what people lost.

For offline mode, you can't bring all your library with you obviously (games grow bigger and bigger) but you can bring all your discs. If you have a game that you did not download because of storage, if you're offline, you're unable to play it. On the other hand you can just insert the disc in the console and play, without worrying about storage or connectivity issues.

I never had a game with double license which I can give it to a friend, this really sounds good and yes, discs can't do that. On the other hand, your friend can't borrow your digital library as easy as physical discs. You have to give credentials from your account, in comparison with discs where you just give the disc and that is all.

I didn't quite understand the last suggestion, you can do the same for discs, there is no difference in that. Actually in discs it is better because you don't have to use an account to play the game (game is no bound to account).

never heard of an account being banned for trolling , is that an actual thing?

yes it's easier to do digital game sharing than it is to lend a physical disc. you have to leave the house to get the disc with digital it is done via console and he has access to my whole library and I have access to his. over 1000 games between us.

again offline mode works and yes game storage is getting bigger but its also cheaper to buy bigger hard drive these days

as for Sony getting hacked. things have moved on massively since then and those thing will never happen again. there will be backups and backups of the backups. Sony back they were pretty stupid with all that.

I have had my xbox account since the original xbox and all the way to today with no issues. had my Sony account maybe 3-4 years and again no issues

 

[BootsLoader]

never heard of an account being banned for trolling , is that an actual thing?

Yes

yes it's easier to do digital game sharing than it is to lend a physical disc. you have to leave the house to get the disc with digital it is done via console and he has access to my whole library and I have access to his. over 1000 games between us.

Maybe it is depending on the point of view of everyone. I don't like to share accounts with anyone. I am kinda "boomer" gamer so it is easier for me to just lend the disc. Because if there is a company of 5 to 6 people who own different digital games, we always have to share our account credentials which....is not a good thing. Also, I like to go outside and meet people. So lending a disc is a chance for me to socialize with my friends. But as I said, everybody is different.

again offline mode works and yes game storage is getting bigger but its also cheaper to buy bigger hard drive these days

I will not agree on this. Take PS5 for example, good, big memory is not cheap.

as for Sony getting hacked. things have moved on massively since then and those thing will never happen again. there will be backups and backups of the backups. Sony back they were pretty stupid with all that.

I know that things moved but I never rely on big company security of their systems. Actually I think that they are very weak. In many apps or websites, data leaks happen every now and then. Why risk it?

I have had my xbox account since the original xbox and all the way to today with no issues. had my Sony account maybe 3-4 years and again no issues

Good to know that.

 

[phil_t98]

Yes

Maybe it is depending on the point of view of everyone. I don't like to share accounts with anyone. I am kinda "boomer" gamer so it is easier for me to just lend the disc. Because if there is a company of 5 to 6 people who own different digital games, we always have to share our account credentials which....is not a good thing. Also, I like to go outside and meet people. So lending a disc is a chance for me to socialize with my friends. But as I said, everybody is different.

I will not agree on this. Take PS5 for example, good, big memory is not cheap.

I know that things moved but I never rely on big company security of their systems. Actually I think that they are very weak. In many apps or websites, data leaks happen every now and then. Why risk it?

Good to know that.

there is risk of Disc rot in all your games so why risk it? there is risk in every thing you do.

as for game sharing I bought Call of duty modern warfare 2 and both me and my friend play at the same time online with only one of us purchasing the game.

As for going out, I don't need an excuse to go out by sharing a disc I just go and see my friends but that's just me.

As for PS5 you can back up to a regular hard drive and transfer across when needed.


out of curiosity do you still buy CD's for music?

 

[MikeM]

I’m 50/50. I’ll prioritize physical because I like holding my purchases and not having to take on much risk with a new game that I can sell/trade in immediately for basically what I paid is nice. Digital has me concerned as licenses can be revoked at any point or your profile blocked.

This is even including my PC. I have one that slaps my ps5 and yet I still look at that version first over my PC lol

 

[BootsLoader]

there is risk of Disc rot in all your games so why risk it? there is risk in every thing you do.

as for game sharing I bought Call of duty modern warfare 2 and both me and my friend play at the same time online with only one of us purchasing the game.

As for going out, I don't need an excuse to go out by sharing a disc I just go and see my friends but that's just me.

As for PS5 you can back up to a regular hard drive and transfer across when needed.


out of curiosity do you still buy CD's for music?

It is your point of view and I respect that, but I still have my own way. I prefer Analog vs Digital always. So I prefer physical Game Discs over Digital any day.
No I don't buy music discs. I buy music digitally. Also, I use Apple music subscription.

 

[phil_t98]

It is your point of view and I respect that, but I still have my own way. I prefer Analog vs Digital always. So I prefer physical Game Discs over Digital any day.
No I don't buy music discs. I buy music digitally. Also, I use Apple music subscription.

so what's the difference between trusting apple with what you buy musically against Sony, Steam or Microsoft with your game library?

not saying your view is wrong. just have differing views

 

[BootsLoader]

so what's the difference between trusting apple with what you buy musically against Sony, Steam or Microsoft with your game library?

not saying your view is wrong. just have differing views

There is nothing different, I do not trust apple of course, the problem with music is that sometimes I don't want to buy the whole album because I may like only 1 track from that album. Why should I pay for the rest of the tracks that could be garbage (for my taste)? So they are giving me the opportunity to pay less and get what I want. In Gaming Industry there is no such a thing.