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Wii, DS, and Sega CD coming to Nintendo Switch Online

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Cyberpunkd said:
This is such an absolutely scummy way for Nintendo to gate so fucking much of their catalog behind subscription service with no ownership. Also - how will the DS even work?
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The way it's described here makes it sound like you'll need(?) to buy a screen attachment (for the top USB-C port?) to even enable it. I hope it's not required, but they pulled the mandatory accessory thing with the Virtual Boy games too.
 
BlackTron said:
Cool, but Wii is going to suck without real IR pointing.
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Gyro Pointer worked ok in some Switch games, not as good, but ok. A lot of Wii games don't use the pointer anyway.

If you have to buy the new Wii Remote and can't just use Joycon though that'd be annyoing.
 
InterMusketeer said:
The way it's described here makes it sound like you'll need(?) to buy a screen attachment (for the top USB-C port?) to even enable it. I hope it's not required, but they pulled the mandatory accessory thing with the Virtual Boy games too.
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Yeah. That sounds like Nintendo. Any accessory will also be wildly overpriced.

Cyberpunkd said:
This is such an absolutely scummy way for Nintendo to gate so fucking much of their catalog behind subscription service with no ownership.
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This.

Bring back the VC. Give people the choice to buy the games, or play them via a subscription.
 
Sucks they don't have any interest in releasing these games in standalone copies, ideally with physical as an option. At least NSO is cheap I guess.
 
Trying to imagine holding a big ass Switch 2 with a second screen attached with one hand, while using a stylus with the other hand to play pokemon ranger. No I don't think so lol.
 
I'd love to play some of my old Mega CD games on it but I ain't forking out for a sub. Hiding the emulated stuff behind a paywall is a right cunts trick. We should be given the opportunity to buy the individual games
 
Mownoc said:
Gyro Pointer worked ok in some Switch games, not as good, but ok. A lot of Wii games don't use the pointer anyway.

If you have to buy the new Wii Remote and can't just use Joycon though that'd be annyoing.
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I would rather have to use a wii remote than have no option at all for it.

They may well do something like that, because lots of old games would need significant retooling to make gyro work. While they can more or less run an old ROM with a remote accessory.

Switch 2 has the potential to cover all gens of Nintendo in one tablet, the more the better. How about a version of RE4 with pointer control, on a console with digital video out. I'm good with as much progress as they can make, because it builds the "it just works" library of future hacked Switch 2 (this is the only reason I'd ever buy a controller tied to a sub service).
 
BlackTron said:
I would rather have to use a wii remote than have no option at all for it.

They may well do something like that, because lots of old games would need significant retooling to make gyro work. While they can more or less run an old ROM with a remote accessory.

Switch 2 has the potential to cover all gens of Nintendo in one tablet, the more the better. How about a version of RE4 with pointer control, on a console with digital video out. I'm good with as much progress as they can make, because it builds the "it just works" library of future hacked Switch 2 (this is the only reason I'd ever buy a controller tied to a sub service).
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The rumour says the Wiimote accessory doesn't use a sensor bar though, so it won't be using IR like the original Wii... so the accessory will also use Gyro, I can't think of any other way to achieve it lol.
 
I swear.

When Nintendo offers old games, people complain that they can't buy the games, even if they've been emulating those games and thousands of others on just any device with a screen, for decades.
When Nintendo makes new games, everyone mocks their hardware and flaunts how sweetly those games emulate on PC.

If Nintendo allowed you to actually buy the games, a second after the announcement, we'd have 10 pages of people complaining that they ain't gonna pay $7.99 for a NES ROM.

Has anyone considered that a top-tier annual subscription to NSO costs less than what you'd pay to buy 5 SNES games on Virtual Console? Games that anyone has had on their backup hard disk since 1998, even?

I really don't understand why some people pretend they'd give money for old games to a company they hate so much anyway.
 
I don't understand what took them this long to add more SEGA consoles, but that's good news. SEGA-CD is awesome. Of course we won't be getting some of the best games because they are locked behind licenses, but it's a start.

NeoIkaruGAF said:
If Nintendo allowed you to actually buy the games, a second after the announcement, we'd have 10 pages of people complaining that they ain't gonna pay $7.99 for a NES ROM.
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I would love to, personally. Because the emulation is good and the controllers are awesome. Knowing that at some point in time, these controllers will be rendered useless (at least through official means) is a real issue.

But we are never going back. They don't want to maintain these games for decades. They want the convenience of shutting everything down and owing nothing to the subscribers.

Also, I would prefer it for each console to be a paid option and only pay for the platforms I like. But of course, they won't do this either :)
 
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NeoIkaruGAF said:
I swear.

When Nintendo offers old games, people complain that they can't buy the games, even if they've been emulating those games and thousands of others on just any device with a screen, for decades.
When Nintendo makes new games, everyone mocks their hardware and flaunts how sweetly those games emulate on PC.

If Nintendo allowed you to actually buy the games, a second after the announcement, we'd have 10 pages of people complaining that they ain't gonna pay $7.99 for a NES ROM.

Has anyone considered that a top-tier annual subscription to NSO costs less than what you'd pay to buy 5 SNES games on Virtual Console? Games that anyone has had on their backup hard disk since 1998, even?

I really don't understand why some people pretend they'd give money for old games to a company they hate so much anyway.
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Other companies have kind of figured this out though. If you're just gonna do Rom dumps, then they better be cheap like Capcom collections. If you're gonna put some effort into with online play and museum stuff, then you can charge a lot more. Like the Capcom MvC collection.

Making people buy your most expensive sub to access games that require expensive accessories aint it.
 
Cyberpunkd said:
They should just fucking release the 2DS XL back in regular production at rock-bottom prices but of course this would probably eat into their precious Switch/Switch 2 margins.
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The 2DS was still in production (and dirt cheap) for several years alongside the OG Switch and its sales still dropped to next to nothing. Nintendo didn't discontinue it because they were worried that it would eat into the Switch's margins. They discontinued it because demand had fallen to the point that it couldn't support the economies of scale needed to make production practical.

I imagine this would be even more true in the current environment where component costs are high and there are 155+ million Switches already in the wild.
 
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Mownoc said:
Trying to imagine holding a big ass Switch 2 with a second screen attached with one hand, while using a stylus with the other hand to play pokemon ranger. No I don't think so lol.
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Your not thinking. Turn switch on its side split the screen and sell sticks for 29.99 each. This is Nintendo. A modern 2DS is born

Or since we have two usb ports on the device I wonder if they would sell an adaptor that your joycons plug into!? 😎
 
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BennyBlanco said:
Other companies have kind of figured this out though. If you're just gonna do Rom dumps, then they better be cheap like Capcom collections. If you're gonna put some effort into with online play and museum stuff, then you can charge a lot more. Like the Capcom MvC collection.

Making people buy your most expensive sub to access games that require expensive accessories aint it.
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I understand this. But expecting Nintendo to sell you, say, NES ROMs for 3.99, SNES for 5.99, and GC/Wii games for 9.99, is unrealistic, when you think that their prices were already higher than that when VC launched, twenty years ago. And I really don't think there's that many people who would put their money where their heart is and pay $7.99 for Super Mario Bros. in 2026.

Nintendo has correctly figured out that it's much more convenient to gatekeep this content behind a subscription these days. Otherwise, they'd be paying publishing rights and server space for games half of which would be bought by a literal handful of people. Nobody - absolutely nobody - would buy Prehistorik Man or Super Baseball Simulator 1000 when the ROMs are just a Google search away, and a literal refrigerator can play those games today. So Nintendo wouldn't even offer those games if not with a subscription, and then people would bitch that no new games come out for the service but the usual 30-something classics that everyone has played a thousand times.
 
Id rather they focus more on gamecube and the others. Needs more games


Time for Nintendo to bring the SEGA Saturn!!! I will love you forever Nintendo
 
I've got all my old Sega CD on a shelf. I hear some of them are worth money.
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BennyBlanco said:
DS with an extra screen?

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If it came with an extra battery to extend the battery life then I'd be all over that.

Either way I just want the GOOD pokemon games on the Switch because at the moment the Steam Deck looking more like the Pokemon machine than the Switch is and that's got to be embarrassing for Nintendo?
 
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The only memorable game (for me, anyway) on the Wii was RE4. Some people piss about what Nintendo does, but I'll likely just ignore these.
 
InterMusketeer said:
The way it's described here makes it sound like you'll need(?) to buy a screen attachment (for the top USB-C port?) to even enable it. I hope it's not required, but they pulled the mandatory accessory thing with the Virtual Boy games too.
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Nintendo loves their peripherals. I think this will be their way of cashing in on them. There's no point in playing Wii games without proper wiimotes or DS games without a second screen.

Personally I have nothing against them doing these things, it'll give more people the wonderful experience of playing Metroid Prime in the superior way. I just hope they release new fun peripherals too like a follow-up to Donkey Konga.
 
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InterMusketeer said:
The way it's described here makes it sound like you'll need(?) to buy a screen attachment (for the top USB-C port?) to even enable it. I hope it's not required, but they pulled the mandatory accessory thing with the Virtual Boy games too.
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But you still use the Switch as the screen for the Virtual Boy -- you're just buying a case.

You should have to connect a Switch 1! (LOL -- I don't know.)
 
Folks that want the games physically already have the games and hardware.

Folks that need to drum up reaction 'cheevs use threads like this.

Both people have/get what they want I guess.
 
Trilobit said:
Nintendo loves their peripherals. I think this will be their way of cashing in on them. There's no point in playing Wii games without proper wiimotes or DS games without a second screen.

Personally I have nothing against them doing these things, it'll give more people the wonderful experience of playing Metroid Prime in the superior way. I just hope they release new fun peripherals too like a follow-up to Donkey Konga.
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"Buy the drums, two wiimotes, and two nunchucks together for a 5% discount!"
 
Im in if they release Wii Remotes with a sensor bar and everything.

Don't make me use the Joycons to play Wii games Nintendo... that'd be horrible..
 
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I'll buy a new wiimote+nunchuck+sensor bar combo if the emulation is good.

Alternatively, they could probably emulate the sensor bar almost perfectly with the camera accessory.

As for DS, hopefully there's a way to hold the system vertically and emulate both screens on it at once. The Switch had a third party accessory that made this possible for scrolling shooters.

And as for Sega CD, I've never played it. Was hoping for Saturn and Dreamcast emulation by now.
 
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NeoIkaruGAF said:
I understand this. But expecting Nintendo to sell you, say, NES ROMs for 3.99, SNES for 5.99, and GC/Wii games for 9.99, is unrealistic, when you think that their prices were already higher than that when VC launched, twenty years ago. And I really don't think there's that many people who would put their money where their heart is and pay $7.99 for Super Mario Bros. in 2026.

Nintendo has correctly figured out that it's much more convenient to gatekeep this content behind a subscription these days. Otherwise, they'd be paying publishing rights and server space for games half of which would be bought by a literal handful of people. Nobody - absolutely nobody - would buy Prehistorik Man or Super Baseball Simulator 1000 when the ROMs are just a Google search away, and a literal refrigerator can play those games today. So Nintendo wouldn't even offer those games if not with a subscription, and then people would bitch that no new games come out for the service but the usual 30-something classics that everyone has played a thousand times.
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There should at least be the option to buy them. And give us the games we bought already on VC. I would have no issues paying 9.99 for Earthbound and SMB3 or whatever they used to charge. When you tie things to sub services it makes me think they won't be there forever and I can't really get hyped. Like when I bought Switch 2 the first thing I wanted to play was the SoulCal 2 port then I realized I needed a more expensive sub. Fuck that. I would've gladly paid $20 for it.
 
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