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Explain to me the problem with a $1000 PS6 in 2027

You need to look at what kind of market you want for gaming to do that and frankly a $1000 PS6 would be OK in the way the market has headed

The cons of a $1000 PS6 are

1) Reduced installbase rate so prolonged crossgen period. if it gets any next gen only games at all

2) Reduced developer support for its strengths in games due to this reduced rate. Look at the high-end PC market today for example.


A $1000 console is essentially the end of generations. PS tried to push for generations but the market kind of had other plans because of Covid and shortages at the time and people ended up mocking them for it.

Now with extended crossgen periods already happening, exclusives less and less of a thing, and the biggest games in the industry being decades old live service stuff I believe generations are dead anyway so a $1000 PS6 would be likely.
 
You will get a $699 console with 16 gig of ram and no storage but Sony will sell a m.2 like memory card in varying sizes.
 
V2Tommy said:
I see no problem. If you don't have $1000 to pull out of your ass at any time, you are not an adult, and in fact, you're a poor.
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If you are rich, you already own a gaming PC. You could pay other people to build a PC for you. Everyone else just play on Console. Because it is value for money.

McDonalds tried an upper-class burger once. it didn't last. Doesn't work for the business model.
 
kenmasters said:
I can only see benefits here:
- No supply problems because of much lower launch window sales
- No scalping problems
- No need to subsidize the hardware (probably they can even turn a nice profit on it)
- Hardcore customers will buy anyway
- Ability to sensibly lower the price at the right timing to maximize profits in the coming years
- Low early installed base will not have a negative impact on games as they will all be cross-gen anyway
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"ChatGPT, come up with 6 reasons why a $1000 PS6 is a good thing."
 
Because some gamers think 1000$ is a lot of money. Other gamers have a paid off house and a couple millions invested and still work because they like it. Honestly the PS5 still has a lot of legs left, waiting for the next fab node and for AI insanity to subside is the way to go. Also the current platforms are more than enough for devs to express themselves in their game designs.
 
If it's $1,000 now or $600 3-4 years later, I'll take $1,000.

I only think this works if they commit to a price reduction roadmap so the DOA crowd is aware that a mass market will come in a few years. Then, making games for the first few years is evergreen and not highly risky.
 
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Are we talking after this crazy AI phase that keeps stealing components for every other product in existence and future, or currently?

Because if things get back to normal, if ever, with 1K I'll keep upgrading my PC...
 
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I can afford a $1000 consoles.
But do i think that is now the best way to use $1000? Man, we would be really skirting that line as to what i think this hobby entry point should be.
You need a low barrier to attact kids, get people on the fence - not make ppl say wtf - heck no. At this stage in gaming, that's under $700 i think and that number is still pretty shocking.

I will put it this way. I have two young sons and at PS5 launch we each got a console day one (I saved theirs for Xmas) - Anyway, that was roughly $1500 for three consoles. You tell me in 2028 id have to spend $3,000? for me and my boys? I'm simply not doing it. Thats just my family dynamics
 
It opens the door to raising prices because "Oh well, the console is a $1000, why not make the games $100, a controller $100, raise the sub to at least $200 minimum for the lower tier. Once you open that door there is no closing it. It's too easy to think there might as well be parity in pricing across the board. Going for fewer customer to make up for the lost ones.
 
DeltaPolarBear said:
If you are rich, you already own a gaming PC. You could pay other people to build a PC for you. Everyone else just play on Console. Because it is value for money.

McDonalds tried an upper-class burger once. it didn't last. Doesn't work for the business model.
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The con with PC is if you like to buy your PS exclusive games day 1, specifically big titles that do not hit PC the same day (if at all).

Still no official Bloodborne release on PC. Imagine if a number of PS games were like that.

Edit: I have a PC with a 4070 Super in there, but prefer Console more so when I can play.

yurinka said:
People already pays that for a phone or a computer, so would pay it for a console too. But most people from previous generations is used to cheaper prices for consoles, so many would complain.
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To be fair most people that buy phones are paying that in installments. I have a Samsung S25 Ultra and I'm paying that as part of my bill plan. Maybe Sony/Xbox should do that next-gen.
 
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Sintoid said:
No sales
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Some fool out there might pay a grand for a PS6

Avoid The Office GIF
 
People already pays that for a phone or a computer, so would pay it for a console too. But most people from previous generations is used to cheaper prices for consoles, so many would complain.
 
I wouldn't get it as ps4 and ps5 are just too featureless for that kinda money , just and a game and service box . Now if it was the equivalent of a ps3 I'd be down .. browser, install music movies and photos, custom themes and backgrounds, best UI, hyped exclusives, free online MP, install browser, backwards compatible with what came b4 ... ect ect
 
Maybe you're onto something.

Perhaps every third generation is supposed to start with a pile of stupid mistakes for Sony. Let's launch next year for 1000 bucks and no exclusive launch titles. Maybe by 2029 we could get the "PS3 slim" of their 6th generation where they lower the price and announce a round of incredible first party stuff that people might want.
 
kenmasters said:
I can only see benefits here:
- No supply problems because of much lower launch window sales
- No scalping problems
- No need to subsidize the hardware (probably they can even turn a nice profit on it)
- Hardcore customers will buy anyway
- Ability to sensibly lower the price at the right timing to maximize profits in the coming years
- Low early installed base will not have a negative impact on games as they will all be cross-gen anyway
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Who's going to buy it except a few hundred thousand 40+ year olds, and then they'll let the PS6 die out, or how do you see it? Kids already prefer playing on their phones, and that would only accelerate the trend.
 
Used consoles will go up in value. Resell of old hardware will be easier.
Maybe GameStop will start trading in PSVR2.
Mom and Pop stores might double to 2 in your town instead of one over in the next town.

This is the first time in my own history that old electronics have gone up in value. Not even old collectible museum stuff. Current PC components actually selling for more than I paid for.

Twilight Zone stuff.
 
yurinka said:
People already pays that for a phone or a computer, so would pay it for a console too. But most people from previous generations is used to cheaper prices for consoles, so many would complain.
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People at least need a phone and a computer. Now, you probably don't need a $1000 phone, and the days of getting a decent computer for under $1000 are probably fading away but at least these items are somewhat necessary. No one needs a game console.
 
AGRacing said:
Maybe you're onto something.

Perhaps every third generation is supposed to start with a pile of stupid mistakes for Sony. Let's launch next year for 1000 bucks and no exclusive launch titles. Maybe by 2029 we could get the "PS3 slim" of their 6th generation where they lower the price and announce a round of incredible first party stuff that people might want.
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Isn't there a term coined as "The Third Console Generation Cursed"? I feel like both Xbox and PS got inflicted with it. Sony with PS3 and Xbox with Xbox One lol.
 
Explain to me why not only on NeoGaf but also on other forums that I follow, in this case in Spain, people are constantly talking about PlayStation 6 without any official information from Sony.

It's crazy that the only thing that matters to a gaming forum is intangible SPECULATION.

Daily threads are opened about PlayStation 6 when there are even rumors that the console could be delayed.

Worst of all, almost all of it is false information, and debates are created based on that false information.
 
Prodyhig said:
Explain to me why not only on NeoGaf but also on other forums that I follow, in this case in Spain, people are constantly talking about PlayStation 6 without any official information from Sony.

It's crazy that the only thing that matters to a gaming forum is intangible SPECULATION.

Daily threads are opened about PlayStation 6 when there are even rumors that the console could be delayed.

Worst of all, almost all of it is false information, and debates are created based on that false information.
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Because speculation is fun, sir?
 
corgiix3 said:
For consoles its not just about making a profit per device.. its about a big install base to sell them games lol
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We can be sure next gen games gonna be 80$(90€?) at launch, sony doesnt want poor cheepskates to buy their new ps6, they want core audience that buys many games yearly, full price at launch.
If some1 has enough of disposable income to buy 1k$ ps6 at launch there is high chance that person will buy 5+ AAA full priced games this year too, simply coz he is rich/dedicated enough.

No idea why GAF thinks console prices and inflation stopped in 2013, dolar is extremly weak now and will be even weaker by holidays 2027/2028, that 1k bucks wont feel even like 600$ many of us spent on ps3.
BTW: I encourage my fellow gaffers to check how much ps3 launch price from 2006 is today, spoilers, 599usd from 2006 is already 986usd in 2026, now what it will be end of 2027 or in 2028?
 
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Nobody will buy it.
Very few, if any, games will take advantage of the hardware power because nobody owns the platform.
 
$1399-$1999, forces some household down the sub route, the exact same way as phones. They just couldn't justify such a high base price before. Now they probably could.

Allow for upgrade options (mid-gen refresh), optional paid upgrades (VR, controllers). With or without PSPlus.

We already dont own most things, consoles were just slow to the task. Well, except Switch 2.

This is the way I see next generation, if not one after.

Anyone with money that can and wants to buy outright will (same with phones).

Their handheld will be the "affordable" one.
 
Sorcerer said:
People at least need a phone and a computer. Now, you probably don't need a $1000 phone, and the days of getting a decent computer for under $1000 are probably fading away but at least these items are somewhat necessary. No one needs a game console.
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I don't get why others don't understand this.

Also, regarding phones, most people don't spend $1000 outright on a phone, they have it as part of the contract which then includes their calls + data over a 2 or 3 year period. And even then, the higher selling phones these days are the cheaper mid range phones not the high end ones.
 
$499 would be great but not realistic anymore.

$599 would be fine.

$699 the max they should push it, if they want good initial adoption but with a view to cut the price a lot after about 2 years.
 
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bighugeguns said:
Because speculation is fun, sir?
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I see that for some people, it's more fun to speculate on video game forums than to actually play video games.

The potential of the PlayStation 5 PRO hasn't even been fully explored yet, and we're already speculating about what will happen in 2028 or even 2029, and with false information at that.

Furthermore, it is assumed that PlayStation 6 will cost around €1,000 or $1,000 in order to persuade the masses that, although what is certain today is that it is PCs and their construction that have increased in price and not consoles, we should not do the PC Taliban a disservice.
 
Prodyhig said:
Furthermore, it is assumed that PlayStation 6 will cost around €1,000 or $1,000 in order to persuade the masses that, although what is certain today is that it is PCs and their construction that have increased in price and not consoles, we should not do the PC Taliban a disservice.
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And you think consoles are built with candy bars and love instead of near standard computer parts which have had price increases to the moon and back with fabrication limitations spelling even worse for the future??

Dummy Feeling Dumb GIF


The only thing that keeps electronic devices of all kinds from immediate massive price jumps are part reserves, old contracts, being based on "older and slower" parts with less demand and sometimes the willingness of manufacturers to eat the losses....
In this kind of environment a PS6 would either have to be very expensive or it would be a very weak upgrade. Sony wont eat hundreds of dollars in losses per device.
 
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Prodyhig said:
Explain to me why not only on NeoGaf but also on other forums that I follow, in this case in Spain, people are constantly talking about PlayStation 6 without any official information from Sony.

It's crazy that the only thing that matters to a gaming forum is intangible SPECULATION.

Daily threads are opened about PlayStation 6 when there are even rumors that the console could be delayed.

Worst of all, almost all of it is false information, and debates are created based on that false information.
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I look at these conversations sometimes as a way to pass the time mostly, even though so many people take it way too seriously.

It reminds me of the infamous Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD from 2019 leading up to the respective Xbox Series / PS5 launches. I'd actually like to see one created for next-gen rather than multiple threads covering mostly the same topic(s) over and over again.

SonGoku SonGoku are you doing the next-gen thread again?
 
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The PS5 Pro with disc drive already costs $1200 here in Sweden. I can easily afford that but I see no reason to buy it when I already own a PS5 and a capable PC. With Sony's current strategy there is no way I'll buy a PS6 unless it's cheap or will have a bunch of exclusives that I can't play on PS5 or PC.

I'm sure I'm not representative for the average consumer but I would never even consider buying the PS6 for $1000 as it is.
 
bighugeguns said:
In his defence, the thing they're making isn't really going to be a console, breh. More like a hybrid!
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the average person will see a xbox sticker and assume its a console anyways, either their pivot to something else or the reaction to the price announcement will be hilarious to witness

get your popcorn ready
 
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