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I think I'm done with gaming now, and so are you!

Great time to get a CRT and a MiSTer. Just sayin.
 
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I've gamed for over 30 years, will be 40 this fall, and I'm gaming more than I ever have in my life. The only real issue with gaming today is there's too many great games and it's nearly impossible to keep up.


What people refuse to accept is that maybe it's they themselves that have changed, not gaming. They've grown cynical, their attention spans are fucked from all the mindless doomscrolling, their dopamine receptors are fucked from being entertained 24/7 on their phones, and their mental health is fucked from being pulled into all the fake culture war bullshit.


Half the damn posters here think they're waging some important battle against the woke boogeymen. Dude we're fucking consumers playing videogames lol. This is meant for enjoyment.
 
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midnightAI said:
An Interpretation is an explanation as to the meaning of something, a personal opinion is subjective and can't be proven because, well, it's their opinion only, it's more about belief than fact.
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Thank you.
So you would propose that the meaning of something can be extracted out of said thing using some objective method? Thus proclaiming that meaning isn't subjective? Did I get that right?
 
My formula is basically 70% retro, 20% indie (most of the time true gems and not mainstream slop like Vampire Survivors-like and all that, but i loved Silksong for example) and 10% games i don't even want to buy but still do because i love the studio behind it (i bought Romeo is a dead man and 007 First Light for that reason despite the fact i knew the games would be mid at best).

I expect it to shift even more towards retro games in the future.

I don't really need to stop gaming, i still enjoy it. But yeah i'm mostly done with new games.
 
There's actually more games i'm looking forward to in the next few years, than there has been in the last 10 foe me, so personally i can't agree i'm done with gaming, the games are getting better, like new Witchers and remasters or remakes like Fallout/Black Flag, but not the price of hardware.
 
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An interpretation is an explanation of meaning or how things are, often backed by analysis or evidence. A personal opinion is a subjective judgment, feeling, or preference regarding whether something is good, bad, right, or wrong
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Thanks for copypasting some random entry out of an online dictionary into this thread without thinking for yourself for even one second about the actual content of that snippet. You contributed absolutely nothing of value here, good job. Proud of you.
 
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HerjansEagleFeeder said:
Thank you.
So you would propose that the meaning of something can be extracted out of said thing using some objective method? Thus proclaiming that meaning isn't subjective? Did I get that right?
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Well think of it this way, an interpreter would translate from one language to another, none of that is subjective (or shouldn't be at least), they have explained the meaning of those words so that you understand what is being said.
If someone used personal opinion to translate languages then they could say anything they wanted without there being any truth behind it whatsoever.

(May be a bad example)
 
midnightAI said:
Well think of it this way, an interpreter would translate from one language to another, none of that is subjective (or shouldn't be at least), they have explained the meaning of those words so that you understand what is being said.
If someone used personal opinion to translate languages then they could say anything they wanted without there being any truth behind it whatsoever.

(May be a bad example)
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Thank you. In my view, translations can be highly subjective, because words (and the concepts they refer to, which can sometimes be multifaceted or even contradictory) often do not have a clean one-to-one equivalent in another language. The German word "Wehmut," for example, cannot be translated particularly well into English. In such cases, a skilled translator is needed to interpret the meaning of the word and render it using the most appropriate English expressions. However, this is not an objective process in the same sense that a mathematician can prove the correctness of a formula.

To avoid any misunderstanding: I am not suggesting that an interpretation and an opinion should be treated as completely synonymous. My point is that both are the products of subjective mental processes. And in the context of our subject matter (opinions/interpretations regarding the general state of the industry), such a distinction seems to me to be largely scholastic in nature.
 
Crazy how many people will just quit gaming because a handful of western publishers shit the bed. Even though that milieu of games has an all-time low quality output, I've still got more new content than I can play thanks to very strong releases from indie and AA.

If anything, it's even more fun because we get to dunk of the former titans while still having plenty of great stuff to play. Sure I miss the Western AAA jam packed release schedule. But we still get one or two decent ones a year. Just got First Light and Horizon 6 for example. RE9 was decent. I know God of War just died for a lot of people, but it's been dead for me since Ragnarok and I'm doing OK. Be thankful we got 3.5 amazing games out of it. Nothing lasts forever.
 
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I feel like Capcom is the only company still making a significant amount of good games.

Anyway I'm kinda glad about this, so I can focus on my huge backlog and don't see a reason to buy new consoles.
 
HerjansEagleFeeder said:
Thank you. In my view, translations can be highly subjective, because words (and the concepts they refer to, which can sometimes be multifaceted or even contradictory) often do not have a clean one-to-one equivalent in another language. The German word "Wehmut," for example, cannot be translated particularly well into English. In such cases, a skilled translator is needed to interpret the meaning of the word and render it using the most appropriate English expressions. However, this is not an objective process in the same sense that a mathematician can prove the correctness of a formula.

To avoid any misunderstanding: I am not suggesting that an interpretation and an opinion should be treated as completely synonymous. My point is that both are the products of subjective mental processes. And in the context of our subject matter (opinions/interpretations regarding the general state of the industry), such a distinction seems to me to be largely scholastic in nature.
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Yeh, I suppose so. I think mainly I see an interpretation as something that can be seen as at least attempting to be factual, a personal opinion isn't constrained by that and can vary wildly person to person.

Anyhoo, back on topic ..... Nope, love gaming, been doing it for over 40 years, still love it as much now as I did back then.... Except I miss the old school arcades
 
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analog_future said:
I've gamed for over 30 years, will be 40 this fall, and I'm gaming more than I ever have in my life. The only real issue with gaming today is there's too many great games and it's nearly impossible to keep up.


What people refuse to accept is that maybe it's they themselves that have changed, not gaming. They've grown cynical, their attention spans are fucked from all the mindless doomscrolling, their dopamine receptors are fucked from being entertained 24/7 on their phones, and their mental health is fucked from being pulled into all the fake culture war bullshit.


Half the damn posters here think they're waging some important battle against the woke boogeymen. Dude we're fucking consumers playing videogames lol. This is meant for enjoyment.
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I also have a stronger opinion that people will fry me for but too many gamers haven't realized gaming isn't a hobby and is entertainment and their brains are fried from spending so much time gaming and entertaining themselves vs picking up a guitar, working on a bike, crocheting, learning to sew or draw, gardening even working on their bodies. People gave so much shit to DaciaJC DaciaJC and Himuro Himuro (who even I can admit I was harsh on) without realizing what they were saying even if extreme; they dump way too many hours into gaming and felt like they got nothing out of it.


I first realized that when we had dinner at my friends Mom's house after his Dad died - her home had several projects decorated that were the results of his lifelong passions for woodwork, ships in a bottle that were detailed he physically added entire crews throughout the ship and we ate at a table and sat on chairs he created - like can anyone really say video games as a "hobby" produced the same skills as learning guitar? You can't lol

I wonder how many video game hours people have if they used half of them on a skill or hobby would actually feel this way when it's used for what it is: a bread and circus.

Sorry to rant but I have to be real when I say it's obvious how many people's only hobby is gaming here and that's no judgment on you as a person but c'mon...
 
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Lambhalf said:
After Sony's last State of Play, I didn't see one game I wanted to play. Not buy; play. There was nothing interesting, nothing new that stood out.
You could say the same about the Xbox and Nintendo side as well.
At that point, then we have others say, come to the indie side. The problem is that the indie side is really rough, asking low or high prices for products that aren't polished to a nice shine. Or gamers are asking developers who aren't in big groups and expecting too much from them.

I didn't bring up a lot of issues that people have had with gaming lately, but let me give you one more.

Price.
Do you want to spend 70+ dollars on a game or 1000+ on hardware (like a Steam handheld or box?) that you might hate now, from developers who actively hate you? Indie or AA or AAA.
Indie isn't going to save us. It's too flooded and not properly sifted to find the diamonds to make it properly fair for everyone.

I declare gaming (for now) to be over. We're just gasping for the last breath, and I've not been convinced by the posts I've seen before. So please, try to convince me otherwise.
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Man, you are just old for this and about to leave gaming, leave other people alone and don't speak in plural.

Want to quit gaming? Go ahead, sport twice a week and doomscrolling its what expects you probably.
 
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Sounds like a you problem.

I didn't even watch the State of Play and am having a blast with several games the past few weeks and none of them cost more than 50 bucks.

But of course tastes are different. Everyone's free to find new hobbies.
 
Lambhalf said:
After Sony's last State of Play, I didn't see one game I wanted to play. Not buy; play. There was nothing interesting, nothing new that stood out.
You could say the same about the Xbox and Nintendo side as well.
At that point, then we have others say, come to the indie side. The problem is that the indie side is really rough, asking low or high prices for products that aren't polished to a nice shine. Or gamers are asking developers who aren't in big groups and expecting too much from them.

I didn't bring up a lot of issues that people have had with gaming lately, but let me give you one more.

Price.
Do you want to spend 70+ dollars on a game or 1000+ on hardware (like a Steam handheld or box?) that you might hate now, from developers who actively hate you? Indie or AA or AAA.
Indie isn't going to save us. It's too flooded and not properly sifted to find the diamonds to make it properly fair for everyone.

I declare gaming (for now) to be over. We're just gasping for the last breath, and I've not been convinced by the posts I've seen before. So please, try to convince me otherwise.
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Not done with gaming but I'm done with Playstation going forward. The PS exclusives are dogshit to me now

Xbox has a small chance to gain traction going forward. All their big ips will be coming out within the next year or so
 
Lambhalf said:
After Sony's last State of Play, I didn't see one game I wanted to play. Not buy; play. There was nothing interesting, nothing new that stood out.
You could say the same about the Xbox and Nintendo side as well.
At that point, then we have others say, come to the indie side. The problem is that the indie side is really rough, asking low or high prices for products that aren't polished to a nice shine. Or gamers are asking developers who aren't in big groups and expecting too much from them.

I didn't bring up a lot of issues that people have had with gaming lately, but let me give you one more.

Price.
Do you want to spend 70+ dollars on a game or 1000+ on hardware (like a Steam handheld or box?) that you might hate now, from developers who actively hate you? Indie or AA or AAA.
Indie isn't going to save us. It's too flooded and not properly sifted to find the diamonds to make it properly fair for everyone.

I declare gaming (for now) to be over. We're just gasping for the last breath, and I've not been convinced by the posts I've seen before. So please, try to convince me otherwise.
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I have a pc, a steamdeck, a ps5, and xbox and a switch 2. What the hell are you talking about?
 
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I couldn't even get into the extraction-shooter/friendslop thing of the past four or so years. It's been over for me.

At least there's a backlog. I couldn't possibly play all the games that're out there. It's a consolation. But it's still sad.
 
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Lambhalf said:
I just really think developers are making games for them and not for players.
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Oh geez this cancerous idea is still out there huh? So was every game made before your time also made just for you???

C'mon buddy, you're not the only one who frequents the restaurant of video games. The menu is ever growing and peoples taste are always in flux.

Anybody can get into video games but not every video game is for Everybody.
 
Lambhalf said:
After Sony's last State of Play, I didn't see one game I wanted to play. Not buy; play. There was nothing interesting, nothing new that stood out.
You could say the same about the Xbox and Nintendo side as well.
At that point, then we have others say, come to the indie side. The problem is that the indie side is really rough, asking low or high prices for products that aren't polished to a nice shine. Or gamers are asking developers who aren't in big groups and expecting too much from them.

I didn't bring up a lot of issues that people have had with gaming lately, but let me give you one more.

Price.
Do you want to spend 70+ dollars on a game or 1000+ on hardware (like a Steam handheld or box?) that you might hate now, from developers who actively hate you? Indie or AA or AAA.
Indie isn't going to save us. It's too flooded and not properly sifted to find the diamonds to make it properly fair for everyone.

I declare gaming (for now) to be over. We're just gasping for the last breath, and I've not been convinced by the posts I've seen before. So please, try to convince me otherwise.
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Sometimes the level of bullshit you encounter reaches a critical mass at which it might be time to let it all go.



Modern gaming has reached this point. Maximum profit and maximum homogeneity is dictating everything. Creative expression has taken a backseat a long time ago, because companies have become exceedingly efficient at reading the market and producing soulless slop, because they realised that it somehow sells.

There is a way, though. If you've reached a dead end, just turn around, go back and... become a retro gamer. There are thousands of classic games to be discovered by you. They will heal your tortured modern gamer soul.
 
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Puscifer said:
I also have a stronger opinion that people will fry me for but too many gamers haven't realized gaming isn't a hobby and not entertainment and their brains are fried from spending so much gaming vs picking up a guitar, working on a bike, crocheting, learning to sew or draw, gardening even working on their bodies. People gave so much shit to DaciaJC DaciaJC and Himuro Himuro (who even I can admit I was harsh on) without realizing what they were saying even if extreme; they dump way too many hours into gaming and felt like they got nothing out of it


I first realized that when we had dinner at my friends Mom's house after his Dad died - her home had several projects decorated that were the results of his lifelong passions for woodwork, ships in a bottle that were detailed he physically added entire crews throughout the ship and we ate at a table and sat on chairs he created - like can anyone really say video games as a "hobby" produced the same skills as learning guitar? You can't lol

I wonder how many video game hours people have if they used half of them on a skill or hobby would actually feel this way when it's used for what it is: a bread and circus.

Sorry to rant but I have to be real when I say it's obvious how many people's only hobby is gaming here and that's no judgment on you as a person but c'mon...
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I think gaming is a hobby, it just varies based on the type of experience you go for. You do have quite a few games that are consumptive entertainment, where you go through scripted challenges, and consume story. Then you have games that are more like sports where you are in social spaces with teamwork and emergent moments. Finally you got sandbox games that let you use tools provided to be creative (Kerbel Space Program, Minecraft, Besiege), and some that let you create user-generated content which I think is most akin to learning guitar...because you could decide to go professional with those skills like Fortnite's UEFN tools that are basically truncated down UE5.

Variety is spice of life though, especially as you get older.
 
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