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Halo: Campaign Evolved Peaks at 25,376 Players as the Series’ Weakest Steam Launch Yet

JohnnyFootball said:
This does not bode well for Gears E-Day...man.
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I didn't expect big numbers considering Halo MCC is already on PC, which makes it harder to sell another remake.
 
I literally just played through the Master Chief Collection. I am burned out on Halo. Others seem to be as well.

I am however, in the mood for some more Gears.
 
DeepEnigma said:
No. You need to have a MSFT account and sign-in for a mandatory download to play it for the first time.

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I knew they were going to do the account linking requirement for all their games eventually, multiplayer or not. And I'm glad I made my peace with not buying their games long ago.
 
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It's not just gamepass, look at the Steam user reviews.

A mixed rating is not gonna help a remake sell, people will just wait for a discount. It's just like every other 343 thing, worse than old Bungie.

Even the Halo Master Collection was busted at launch, and needed time before it became a useful product.
 
Thebonehead said:
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LMAO at the user tags - You're playing a LGBTQ+ game papi Gonzito Gonzito

Played a few hours and it doesn't hold a candle to the Assassins Creed Black Flag remake - Gameplay just doesn't hold up for me
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I don't think this is the gotcha you think it is.

I've played the Mass Effect franchise, which is openly LGBTQ+ inclusive, and it's one of my favorite game series. I loved Baldur's Gate 3 too.

The difference is that I don't have a problem with LGBTQ+ content existing. I have a problem when it feels forced or starts lecturing the player instead of serving the story. As long as it's written naturally and fits the world, I couldn't care less.

I haven't seen anything in Halo: Campaign Evolved that crosses that line, so there's no reason for me to skip it and I say this having played the campaign fron the beginning till the end
 
Bojji said:
This is the third version of the same game.

I think people are tired.
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Pretty much. Even as a massive Halo fan, I can't justify paying another $50 for the same game that is remastered/remade for the second time. I've beaten Halo CE hundreds of times, so it's not exactly moving the excitement meter for me. I will still play on Game Pass later, but I won't pay full price.
 
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I needed local multiplayer and online. Come on it was what everyone loved. The ol' we wanted to focus on this or that line is a crock. No one asked for this game and they could have moved the date back to get multiplayer in there.

Could you image all the copies on PS5 they would have sold? They chose to leave money on the table and GamePass is cancer if you want first party profits.
 
Bojji said:
This is the third version of the same game.

I think people are tired.
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Never been a Halo gamer.

But when MCC came out I tried out Halo 1. I quit after maybe a couple hours. Thought it was archaic. Maybe great for an early 2000s game, but running around shooting and driving a warthog was painful.

So even if the remake looks better and tweaks some gameplay to make it modernized, it's probably still a very old school SP shooter. Like buying an oldie off GOG and installing 4k mods. Might look better and modders patched it up a bit but still an old school game. It doesnt even have MP either like Halo 1 on MCC.
 
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Just did the first two missions on legendary with my two buddies i played the og campaign with, we were having fun. We felt like canon spartans by how easy it was so far. The assault rifle is actually good this time around and sprint trivialized some encounters but them jackal snipers still wreck you if you just sprint all over the place. Not liking the prismacolor veneer, need to get rid of that CA asap.
 
Not shocked, this IP is fucking dead.

Halo is a bigger "name" then it actually is a presence in the actual market. I've told people this that i teach about marketing all the time, JUST cause you KNOW Pac Man and its recognizable, doesn't mean that translates in to actual hard sales.

This IP has been beat into the ground and just forced fed to consumers. With how much Halo has failed, it makes me respect that Naughty Dog didn't make that Jak 4 game, if you have no real great idea for it, leave it behind.

Its ok to let it go folks. Look at all the IP during that 2002 time frame, how many of them TODAY are you fond of that legit would purchase as a new entry? Not every title is evergreen and MS the most seem to think they got a stable of them and seem to ignore like flop after flop. Even Forza had to be "Horizon" for it to find continued success, to the point of no more Forza Motorsport titles.
 
A Halo game with no multiplayer is fucking brain dead as fuck. Hardly anyone knew what the hell was going on anyway with the story. Imagine a cod game with no multiplayer makes no sense.
 
The game launched officially on a Tuesday. A game that is 25 years old- a new remake with the core audience being 27+ years of age.

You know age group of people who work a job, have a family with kids, etc. People who game on the weekend if time permits lol.

You guys can do your song and dance about halo being dead, but a single player only title being launched on a Tuesday only having 25K players on 1 / 3 platforms is somehow bad?
 
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Not_A-Cop_Maybe said:
The game launched officially on a Tuesday. A game that is 25 years old- a new remake with the core audience being 27+ years of age.

You know age group of people who work a job, have a family with kids, etc. People who game on the weekend if time permits lol.

You guys can do your song and dance about halo being dead, but a single player only title being launched on a Tuesday only having 25K players on 1 / 3 platforms is somehow bad?
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Plus there a new moon as well. Oh, and it's mid-summer. Plus GTA6s trailer 3 is out next week.

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//DEVIL// said:
Who gives a fuck about all of this ??

This is about the idea of should i spend a 70$ to play the single-player game once or twice. or 15$ an option for a month and be done with it ?

Why the fuck do you mention Steam vs Xbox app? None of the shit you mentioned above matters if the objective is to play a single-player game in the cheapest possible way, assuming the gamer is honest and doesn't crack it before the game is even released.

My whole post was about big single-player games like this shouldn't be on Game Pass day one. no where it say it shouldn't be on Xbox day one or Steam day one. Both stores will get shit sales when Game Pass is available to play the game.

We might not get a chance for another Halo game because of low sales BECAUSE of gamepass. nothing to do with steam or xbox app. way to miss the point my man.
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What I'm saying here is that games people actually rush to play will not get shit sales on Steam because of Gamepass.

Because Gamepass is miniscule on PC.

We're talking about a single digit percentage of the PC market. It's like thinking a game free on Stadia would've killed sales on Steam.
There is only a tiny percentage of enthusiast gamers who bother using Gamepass on PC.

Games people actually rush out to play will sell on Steam no matter if it's on Gamepass or whatever other insignificant place you can access the game.

But yes, as someone who's within that insignificant bubble. I obviously don't buy a game like Halo. It was sitting there in the New tab on Playnite, so I clicked install, then play.
 
EDMIX said:
Not shocked, this IP is fucking dead.

Halo is a bigger "name" then it actually is a presence in the actual market. I've told people this that i teach about marketing all the time, JUST cause you KNOW Pac Man and its recognizable, doesn't mean that translates in to actual hard sales.

This IP has been beat into the ground and just forced fed to consumers. With how much Halo has failed, it makes me respect that Naughty Dog didn't make that Jak 4 game, if you have no real great idea for it, leave it behind.

Its ok to let it go folks. Look at all the IP during that 2002 time frame, how many of them TODAY are you fond of that legit would purchase as a new entry? Not every title is evergreen and MS the most seem to think they got a stable of them and seem to ignore like flop after flop. Even Forza had to be "Horizon" for it to find continued success, to the point of no more Forza Motorsport titles.
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I will always die on the hill that Halo could have and should have ended with 3. Even Reach was pushing it, but at least you can tell there was still passion left from Bungie, even if they wanted to move on.

Halo 4 had a good campaign (and of course peak Cortana) but it wasn't worth what came afterwards as far as forever tarnishing its legacy nad 343's continued incompetence, lack of genuine interest in what made Halo special, and Microsoft in general not knowing what to do with it.

Halo as a franchise should have just ended on this image:
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Gonzito said:
I don't think this is the gotcha you think it is.

I've played the Mass Effect franchise, which is openly LGBTQ+ inclusive, and it's one of my favorite game series. I loved Baldur's Gate 3 too.

The difference is that I don't have a problem with LGBTQ+ content existing. I have a problem when it feels forced or starts lecturing the player instead of serving the story. As long as it's written naturally and fits the world, I couldn't care less.

I haven't seen anything in Halo: Campaign Evolved that crosses that line, so there's no reason for me to skip it and I say this having played the campaign fron the beginning till the end
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I was just joking with you. Just made me laugh that people had tagged it that way.
 
Thebonehead said:
I was just joking with you. Just made me laugh that people had tagged it that way.
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Gotcha. No problem man

But I just wanted to point out that I dont mind LGBTQ stuff in a game if its well done. I dont hate these groups, I just dislike lecturing or pushing these ideologies in videogames, that's all.
 
Halo might have been revolutionary for console players back in the day, but I don't think the franchise has anything relevant to offer to PC players.
 
Ziglax said:
Halo might have been revolutionary for console players back in the day, but I don't think the franchise has anything relevant to offer to PC players.
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Halo was always more marketing and hot air than anything else. There were several shooter as good or better around on consoles back in 2001/2. Medal of Honor Frontline and Timesplitters 2 just to name two.
 
An observation that fascinated me:

On launch day and afterwards, when looking at Current Most Played on Steam during the time of day when Asia is online, Halo was nowhere to be found.

But when looking at the same chart during USA/EU hours, it was in the top 10 and sometimes top 3.

Of course no surprise, but still interesting to see it in action.
 
This thread reminded me that the first time I played through Halo Combat Evolved it was on my PC via a boxed disc version of the game. I had only seen an XBOX in person twice, once being a retail kiosk and the other a coworker actually bought one and brought it over after work one night. We got to monkey around with Halo a little that night and I remember hating the controller, the Duke at the time. But the game was superb! Even if I couldn't figure out the sticks and buttons, just watching a few buddies laugh their asses off over driving the Warthog sold me on the game.

Downloaded it on my Series X and PC via GamePass. I'll try to run through the game this weekend.
 
It's a remaster (basically) and 3rd release of a 25 year old game without an online pvp component that costs $50 on pc or $22 on gamepass.

Its great, but lets not pretend the steam numbers mean a whole lot here.
 
Radical_3d said:
From Mat Pescadera himself:
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It's always the same with this guy. Posting completely useless metrics without context.

Being first place on PSN in a random week doesn't mean jack shit. It doesn't tell us anything about the sales or the revenue and certainly nothing about the budget of the game or Microsoft's sales expectations.
 
Sohurmk833 said:
It's always the same with this guy. Posting completely useless metrics without context.

Being first place on PSN in a random week doesn't mean jack shit. It doesn't tell us anything about the sales or the revenue and certainly nothing about the budget of the game or Microsoft's sales expectations.
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He's a certified woke retard with an agenda. Anyone minding whatever he says is even dumber than him.
 
It's one of those releases which MS somehow sent out to die for some reason.
Amongst the people I know literally no one knew that it's coming out, and half of these people like Halo.
But otherwise yeah, I'd expect most of those interested to play it on Gamepass.
 
Witchilich said:
But the players didn't have to look at that shitty underwater filter.
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Nevertheless, the re-remake of CE looks soulless and empty, typical UE5 showcase material that, at first glance seems impressive for a minute, but on closer inspection, in my opinion, is superficial and leaves no lasting impression. Shallow stuff I'll gladly pass.
 
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