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A Halogaf Community Thread: The Old Becomes New

splattered

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Halo HCS live on Twitch, like your account to Halo Waypoint and watch the stream for an hour and you get a nice weapon coating or a few weapons. It also says that if you watch one of the official co-streams for an hour you also get a matching armor coating but i'm not seeing any progress on the drops page for that so no idea if i'm gonna get that or not.
 
I finally calmed down after my games last night. Had A LOT of bad games but had some good game mixed in too. Got out of Gold and ranked up to Platinum without a team. Got my challenges done for what is probably the sorriest excuse of a weekly challenges reward ever.

I finally caved and purchased the battle pass. I wanted to see how far I could get in one night with the xp boosts. Should have done it one night sooner cuz I had already blown through a bunch of my challenges. Went from level 20 to 36. Was painful. And can't really be repeated since you run out of challenges. What's hilarious is that even at 36 there isn't a single unlocked armor cosmetic that I would use. Still rolling with the base kit and and a coating from the one of the campaign armor lockers. Will try out the new AI but that's about it. 343 really needs to make the armor coatings work across all the kits. It's pathetic that you have to unlock the same color for each....


Halo HCS live on Twitch, like your account to Halo Waypoint and watch the stream for an hour and you get a nice weapon coating or a few weapons. It also says that if you watch one of the official co-streams for an hour you also get a matching armor coating but i'm not seeing any progress on the drops page for that so no idea if i'm gonna get that or not.
I'll go check it out but I'm late to the party. Maybe tomorrow. Thanks for the heads up.

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Might as well post the official tweet for it too. I'm hoping i can catch some of it tomorrow. I saw several tweets this evening though about technical difficulties. Hoping it gets sorted out asap.
 
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splattered

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I finally calmed down after my games last night. Had A LOT of bad games but had some good game mixed in too. Got out of Gold and ranked up to Platinum without a team. Got my challenges done for what is probably the sorriest excuse of a weekly challenges reward ever.

I finally caved and purchased the battle pass. I wanted to see how far I could get in one night with the xp boosts. Should have done it one night sooner cuz I had already blown through a bunch of my challenges. Went from level 20 to 36. Was painful. And can't really be repeated since you run out of challenges. What's hilarious is that even at 36 there isn't a single unlocked armor cosmetic that I would use. Still rolling with the base kit and and a coating from the one of the campaign armor lockers. Will try out the new AI but that's about it. 343 really needs to make the armor coatings work across all the kits. It's pathetic that you have to unlock the same color for each....



I'll go check it out but I'm late to the party. Maybe tomorrow. Thanks for the heads up.

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Might as well post the official tweet for it too. I'm hoping i can catch some of it tomorrow. I saw several tweets this evening though about technical difficulties. Hoping it gets sorted out asap.

Watching the one hour on a co-streamer stream I got the weapon coating for all three weapons and the armor coating also finally started tracking and popped. Looks super slick on the samurai armor! Sunday specifically we can get a victory pose again so I'll be pulling a stream up again tomorrow.
 
Watching the one hour on a co-streamer stream I got the weapon coating for all three weapons and the armor coating also finally started tracking and popped. Looks super slick on the samurai armor! Sunday specifically we can get a victory pose again so I'll be pulling a stream up again tomorrow.
Ugh I missed the Stream in time. I was watching the end of today's BTB matchup but only got about 20-30 minutes before it ended. I'll see if I can remember tomorrow. Doesnt help when I'm on mids and asleep all day.
 
Jumped on MCC for some cleansing classic Halo fun and just went stupid with 30k 5d + killtac + running riot on Ivory Tower. The splitscreen teammate randies just did nothing so I got to have my way with the enemy team the whole game. You have to love getting mismatched and being the dominant player in a game. Halo 2 is still the best Halo multiplayer out of all of them.

 
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No idea what this will entail but I'll be participating at some point or another. Also, with the way exp is earned (more at first and less with successive games) one can gain a level with roughly one hour of game time if you do fast games like swat or fiesta. Takes 7 total games. I'm trying to play just enough each day for the level. Then I break. Saving exp boosts for the new challenges.

 
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Ugh one thing that struck me when looking at these skins that 343 is selling is that they're not even special designs. We are literally paying for a random combination of colors slapped together, something that we should be able to do on our own in a customization menu. If 343 wants to sell something it should actually be new armor or skins with a little bit of effort put into them. It's like playing Halo Reach forge maps versus a dev made map. It's night and day different. Infinite's armor customization is the worst since Halo CE. You know when there wasn't any customization? But I guess it does have that classic feel...

343 should be absolutely embarrassed and ashamed with their customization in Infinite. It's like they asked a bunch of 3rd graders to pick random colors for their skins.

The armor design in season 1 is equally atrocious. I'll have to wait until I'm at a computer but I'll post some images and verdicts later.

Players should have been able to come up with this scheme on their own. Gold and red. Shiny versus matte. Done.
 
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Ugh one thing that struck me when looking at these skins that 343 is selling is that they're not even special designs. We are literally paying for a random combination of colors slapped together, something that we should be able to do on our own in a customization menu. If 343 wants to sell something it should actually be new armor or skins with a little bit of effort put into them. It's like playing Halo Reach forge maps versus a dev made map. It's night and day different. Infinite's armor customization is the worst since Halo CE. You know when there wasn't any customization? But I guess it does have that classic feel...

343 should be absolutely embarrassed and ashamed with their customization in Infinite. It's like they asked a bunch of 3rd graders to pick random colors for their skins.

The armor design in season 1 is equally atrocious. I'll have to wait until I'm at a computer but I'll post some images and verdicts later.

Players should have been able to come up with this scheme on their own. Gold and red. Shiny versus matte. Done.

Agreed, there is very little customisation I want. The designs are repetitive and often childish looking. I'm not grinding endlessly to get things and I'm not paying $30 for one complete armour variant. I just play now and again but Apex has its hooks into me far more than Infinite.
 

Havoc2049

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Ugh one thing that struck me when looking at these skins that 343 is selling is that they're not even special designs. We are literally paying for a random combination of colors slapped together, something that we should be able to do on our own in a customization menu. If 343 wants to sell something it should actually be new armor or skins with a little bit of effort put into them. It's like playing Halo Reach forge maps versus a dev made map. It's night and day different. Infinite's armor customization is the worst since Halo CE. You know when there wasn't any customization? But I guess it does have that classic feel...

343 should be absolutely embarrassed and ashamed with their customization in Infinite. It's like they asked a bunch of 3rd graders to pick random colors for their skins.

The armor design in season 1 is equally atrocious. I'll have to wait until I'm at a computer but I'll post some images and verdicts later.

Players should have been able to come up with this scheme on their own. Gold and red. Shiny versus matte. Done.
Don't you want Iron Man with a kitty helmet for a reasonable $30 USD? 😻🙀😜
 
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Don't you want Iron Man with a kitty helmet for a reasonable $30 USD? 😻🙀😜
The scary part is they have so many existing skins to call on but don't e.g. Blue team, SIVs, Osiris/Buck. They could easily have introduced other modes with playable races such as Banished, Covies, Forerunner etc. A rounds based system starting as low level marines vs grunts vs prowlers then next round ODSTs vs Jackals with a final round of Spartans vs Elites vs Knights etc. They have such a rich tapestry to call upon but don't. Warzone gave them all AI etc why not extend that to playable characters or round based us vs them so each team as a defending/attacking round. Just fun things in Halo with creative freedom that isn't arena all the time.
 
All the helmets you can get pre level 55 are for spartan flunkies. The commando helmet does not match the Reach version. There is something vastly off. I call it the massive underbite/mega chin doofus helmet. The aviator helmet looks like a cross between gonzo's nose and a koala bear. I just don't understand how 343 fails to make something look so unappealing. Helmets don't have to look like hot garbage. And these are old designs too. Can you not reinvent the design so that it is at least aesthetically pleasing? I'm also (probably in the minority) someone who doesn't really like the samurai kit. It looks like an overweight person trying to look cool in cosplay to me. Is it just me? I dunno.

Like WTF is this?


 
Personally I think 343 are greedy as shit. I hate what they've done with the customization and the paywall for things previously included with Halo games. Its pathetic.

But at a minimum when they charge for stuff it should be something unique and not a random color scheme.

This is probably the first thing that doesn't bother me as much. It's not 20-30 bucks and it's actually a new armor edition, not a cheap re-skin. Don't get me wrong though 343 is still pathetic moneyhatters now. They're making their bed and will sleep in it forever. They will never be able to absolve themselves of that image and reputation. Might as well partner up with Activision lol.

 
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Personally I think 343 are greedy as shit. I hate what they've done with the customization and the paywall for things previously included with Halo games. Its pathetic.

But at a minimum when they charge for stuff it should be something unique and not a random color scheme.

This is probably the first thing that doesn't bother me as much. It's not 20-30 bucks and it's actually a new armor edition, not a cheap re-skin. Don't get me wrong though 343 is still pathetic moneyhatters now. They're making their bed and will sleep in it forever. They will never be able to absolve themselves of that image and reputation. Might as well partner up with Activision lol.

In fairness 343 didn't exactly have the best reputation in the first place. :D

But yes, the progression/customization just sucks, and I have no idea why they thought it'd be acceptable to launch like this. Halo 5's was legitimately better and I truly never thought I'd be saying that. They need to get this shit fixed pronto, like by the end of January at the latest, cuz if Steamcharts is anything to go by the population is already starting to look a little worrisome.
 
Yeah i go back and forth. I enjoy the game. I have to be careful how much I criticize 343 because in that past I said things about Bungie to the point that I was completely toxic. I think if 343 uses the proceeds from their store sales to fund tournaments and more importantly put out additional free content for the campaign, it's probably worth it in the end. But I foresee new content being released at a certain price point in the future. Perhaps i'll be wrong. I fully supported the Halo 5 system. I thought that the req system only was truly pay to play in warzone, and then even that was not the same as other games. Because a good player could handle himself/herself against people with upgraded weapons regardless. And eventually everything was unlocked in the end anyway. What you get if you don't spend money in Infinite is so bare bones it's not even funny. And I'm highly agitated that pieces of armor are specific to their kits and not universal. Like who thought that would be fun or appreciated? There are aspects that really do need to be fixed pronto.

I will say that progression/leveling is far more enjoyable now. It resembles the TMCC system of doing challenges each week, plus you get a boost at the start of each day. With the way things are going I've managed to hit level 46 already and I only play for short periods each day (usually). I'm at work right now but when I get home in the morning I'll try to get in an hour and I should be able to hit 50 no problem with double exp.
 
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Havoc2049

Member
MCC Seasons, challenges and customization is leagues better than Halo Infinite.

I just finished my second playthrough of Infinite. This time on easy to get the Forza speed run achievement. Did it with plenty of time to spare. I also got the last skull, which I couldn't get on my Heroic run. Only three campaign achievements left to get. I still need to get the Legendary, LASO and Kill a Grunt Thrown by a Brute achievements.
 
Damn game isn't giving me credit for one of my challenges and it cost me my double exp boost. So annoying... If I paid for the battle pass and then I don't get the benefit of the double xp boost, that's 343 ripping me off. Don't charge money for shit if it doesn't work...

Edit: I'm better now. I found that the bot bootcamp is where it's at for quick games. And it's so much less stressful lol.
 
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Happy Christmas all! I could not get credit for a disruptor kill in pvp no matter what I did. I think I had well over 5 but finally swapped the challenge out. Only got normal exp when I should have gotten double 🙄 Replacement challenge was to to kill 15 with the sidekick and then that challenge wasnt working either lol. Finally jumped into FFA this morning and it worked. Now I have to kill someone with a fusion coil.
 
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Merry Christmas! Unfortunately do not really have much motivation to play Infinite anymore but I'm keeping an eye on what's going on with it. Honestly I feel more of an urge to play MCC right now.

In terms of other games I'm just waiting for Elden Ring, Horizon 2 and Witch Queen, hopefully those will keep me preoccupied until Infinite gets unfucked.
 
Merry Christmas! Unfortunately do not really have much motivation to play Infinite anymore but I'm keeping an eye on what's going on with it. Honestly I feel more of an urge to play MCC right now.

In terms of other games I'm just waiting for Elden Ring, Horizon 2 and Witch Queen, hopefully those will keep me preoccupied until Infinite gets unfucked.
Yes there are some good games on the horizon! And you can't really play something if it doesn't interest you. That would feel like a chore and probably make you dislike the game even more. I'd wait it out for a bit.

I did go and get some mcc challenges done the other day and picked up the grunt plush in TMCC. It's funny though because I don't really play Halo 3 that much in the master chief collection but most of the rewards I work toward are all Halo 3 cosmetics lol.

Bot bootcamp has been great in infinite. The bots are just bad enough that I can fly in and pull off hero multikills when outnumbered and alone. Doesn't always work but is certainly fun when it does. Sometimes I'll just go on a roll taking down bots with the pistol and br. Fun to see my name pop up repeatedly showing the bots I'm killing. I have gotten a few perfections too, which may not sound impressive but is a fun goal/challenge to spice up the playlist. For quick xp the ctf games in the bot playlist are the best. Can speed capture the 3 flags (in most cases) and have a sub 5 minute game.
 
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I've said it before but there is no reason 343 shouldn't be able to improve the terrible H5 helmet designs. Look what this one person did on their own. Like how many people do 343 need to put out decent looking helmets lol?



In other news I unlocked Kat's armor and there isn't a single customizable part. Zero.
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So just 100 percented my Heroic run and beat my Legendary run (I never get a chance to play like this anymore but I have been on annual leave after an enormous work year).

I would love some more campaign content, it’s such a solid base if they were to add some more variety and a firefight mode id have zero complaints.
 

Naked Lunch

Member
So they dropped Mister Chief as a purchasable AI in the store - yes Mister Chief. The funniest thing ive seen in a Halo game to date. The price is insanity but thats the F2P model for you.


I can see them adding AIs from Halo Wars or even something like a Sgt Johnson AI down the line. Lots of possibilities.
 
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So they dropped Mister Chief as a purchasable AI in the store - yes Mister Chief. The funniest thing ive seen in a Halo game to date. The price is insanity but thats the F2P model for you.


I can see them adding AIs from Halo Wars or even something like a Sgt Johnson AI down the line. Lots of possibilities.
I want a grunt AI that insults you when you die, as well as your enemies when they die.
 
So just 100 percented my Heroic run and beat my Legendary run (I never get a chance to play like this anymore but I have been on annual leave after an enormous work year).

I would love some more campaign content, it’s such a solid base if they were to add some more variety and a firefight mode id have zero complaints.
Nice work. I still need to get all the audio logs and skulls I missed on my first playthrough. Though I'm feeling a bit lazy atm. There will be more campaign dlc. Just dont know when. I watched one of hiddenxperia's recent uploads and he has some interesting speculation about what might be included in future content.

So they dropped Mister Chief as a purchasable AI in the store - yes Mister Chief. The funniest thing ive seen in a Halo game to date. The price is insanity but thats the F2P model for you.


I can see them adding AIs from Halo Wars or even something like a Sgt Johnson AI down the line. Lots of possibilities.
I don't mind the addition but the pricing on this stuff is woof. Clearly though people are spending money on all of it. Ugh...
 
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Naked Lunch

Member
In multiplayer ive been experimenting and unlocked some new layers to the gameplay.

-Ive been testing dropping your weapon in firefights. AR, shield pop, drop AR, pistol. When you are for sure 1 v 1, try it. Youll win everytime. Basically you can fire your secondary instantly in comparison to the stock weapon switch. "Hold This".

-I thought pulse rifle forever sucked until I ran into this dude using it a certain way. Basically shoot and hit with 2 bursts - then pistol. The pulse rifle rarely kills, so dont even try - in this game, in this state - its a shield killer only. Drops insanely quick. No one uses this thing but thats how you do it. Even try it with the aforementioned weapon drop.

-Turn off auto clamber in the options. Theres many ledges in multiplayer where it makes you clamber even though you dont have to. Clambering makes you shoot slower - and traverse just a bit slower.

I don't mind the addition but the pricing on this stuff is woof. Clearly though people are spending money on all of it. Ugh...
Yep - definitely following the typical overpriced cosmetic template. Games like Smite and League of Legends sell skins at $30-100 a pop. Insanity. I still will buy Halo stuff I really want though.

I guess thats the tradeoff of F2P - the game does seems quite popular - so ill live with it. They just have to get a steady flow of new content, as in maps and modes.
 
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In multiplayer ive been experimenting and unlocked some new layers to the gameplay.

-Ive been testing dropping your weapon in firefights. AR, shield pop, drop AR, pistol. When you are for sure 1 v 1, try it. Youll win everytime. Basically you can fire your secondary instantly in comparison to the stock weapon switch. "Hold This".

-I thought pulse rifle forever sucked until I ran into this dude using it a certain way. Basically shoot and hit with 2 bursts - then pistol. The pulse rifle rarely kills, so dont even try - in this game, in this state - its a shield killer only. Drops insanely quick. No one uses this thing but thats how you do it. Even try it with the aforementioned weapon drop.

-Turn off auto clamber in the options. Theres many ledges in multiplayer where it makes you clamber even though you dont have to. Clambering makes you shoot slower - and traverse just a bit slower.


Yep - definitely following the typical overpriced cosmetic template. Games like Smite and League of Legends sell skins at $30-100 a pop. Insanity. I still will buy Halo stuff I really want though.

I guess thats the tradeoff of F2P - the game does seems quite popular - so ill live with it. They just have to get a steady flow of new content, as in maps and modes.
I'll mess around with the weapon drop strategy when I get another chance to play. I've only paid for the battle pass thus far. Im so close to getting out of the garbage tier helmets. Should be able to hit 75 tomorrow with new challenges and double exp boosts. The grenadier helmet has been one of my all-time favorites since Reach. I'm using the air assault helmet right now and I actually dig it quite a bit. There is something off though with so many of the other reach helmets if you'll allow me to continue beating a dead horse.

Let me list the ones the ones I believe to look off: ODST, recon, commando, eva, and scout.

Ones that look alright: air assault, grenadier, trailblazer, mark 6 and Mark 7.
 

Naked Lunch

Member
I'll mess around with the weapon drop strategy when I get another chance to play. I've only paid for the battle pass thus far. Im so close to getting out of the garbage tier helmets. Should be able to hit 75 tomorrow with new challenges and double exp boosts. The grenadier helmet has been one of my all-time favorites since Reach. I'm using the air assault helmet right now and I actually dig it quite a bit. There is something off though with so many of the other reach helmets if you'll allow me to continue beating a dead horse.

Let me list the ones the ones I believe to look off: ODST, recon, commando, eva, and scout.

Ones that look alright: air assault, grenadier, trailblazer, mark 6 and Mark 7.
I feel you. There is something off about the whole Mark V set. Something about the posture - looks out of proportion - or the chest pieces look wrong. I took off the Mark V shoulders to try to fix it - looks a bit better. I just run the classic Mark 6 helmet with the Jun cape thing - looks very Halo 2/3.

Emile + Jun stock are pretty rad. Carter + Cat sets im not liking, somethings off. Jorge set looks way wrong because its too tall and narrow. Also the Jorge set is missing textures/color for the left shoulder, heh. Im wondering if they could add really different body types in the future. Like Reach's wider and stout Jorge.

The Mark VII set looks best and when you get the Mark VII helmet, in my eyes, its the signature Infinite look.
 
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So this was removed from the final game for unknown reasons.

What does it say? It sounded like, "UNSC tag detected. Designation: friend."

Okay I did a quick scouring of the internet and found some recent articles on the deleted scene. Some theories are that it is a reference to campaign coop, a new single player experience, or possibly the return of the Arbiter.

Interesting.
 
Interesting thoughts on the current state of pro gamers and Tashi in the thread answering some questions.



Also so true lol. I genuinely dislike the hammer in infinite. Easily my most hated weapon. And I despise fiesta matches because everyone is just running around with either a hammer or a sword. The radar is terrible and doesn't give anyone enough time to react to sprinters and outside of a few power weapons nothing is quick enough to counter the sword or the hammer. Like wow great sandbox fun...

 
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What does it say? It sounded like, "UNSC tag detected. Designation: friend."

Okay I did a quick scouring of the internet and found some recent articles on the deleted scene. Some theories are that it is a reference to campaign coop, a new single player experience, or possibly the return of the Arbiter.

Interesting.
A while back (and I do mean a while, like years ago now, so could've changed since then) I saw a rumor from one of the big names in the Halo community that Blue Team would appear in the campaign DLC, so it could be that.

And I think it'd make sense cuz from what we've seen in ancillary material, toys etc. Blue Team's armor got redesigned like Chief's did, dunno why you'd do that if you didn't have plans for them.
 
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A while back (and I do mean a while, like years ago now, so could've changed since then) I saw a rumor from one of the big names in the Halo community that Blue Team would appear in the campaign DLC, so it could be that.

And I think it'd make sense cuz from what we've seen in ancillary material, toys etc. Blue Team's armor got redesigned like Chief's did, dunno why you'd do that if you didn't have plans for them.
Could be. Still, wouldnt it detect more than one tag? Id be okay with seeing blue team return. I've watched more of hiddenxperia and I like most of his ideas on what he'd like to see in the next campaign dlc.
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In other news I hit 80 tonight in season 1. Doesn't really feel like much of an accomplishment and armor customization is still slim pickens.
 
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The final weekly challenge is to hit people with vehicles.... Seriously 343? And the best place to get the kills would be in btb but that's nearly impossible to get to work. Gg...
 

Havoc2049

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The final weekly challenge is to hit people with vehicles.... Seriously 343? And the best place to get the kills would be in btb but that's nearly impossible to get to work. Gg...
Can you switch out the weekly? Also, is there a way to tell your progress each week? These menus and lack of useful info in them just sucks. It's lame I have to go to a 3rd party site or app the check simple stuff like my lifetime KDA.
 
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Can you switch out the weekly? Also, is there a way to tell your progress each week? These menus and lack of useful info in them just sucks. It's lame I have to go to a 3rd party site or app the check simple stuff like my lifetime KDA.
Can't switch out the final challenge or I would have. I ended up getting the challenge done in fiesta of all places in one game. Whatever that outdoor map is with a structure in the center. I got 4 splatters with the banshee and 2 more with a ghost.

The menus are unintuitive. And I use Halotracker.com for stats. It's a pity that the info in the post game lobby is so limited. I liked seeing who I killed most and who killed me most, what weapon I got the most kills with, and accuracy even when it's not a slayer match, in previous Halo games. Master chief collection even does it better. It's so weird that Infinite is so gimped.

Also, when I get shot in game I never have a clue from what direction I'm getting hit. Might as well be blind.

I said hate the hammer the most in a previous post but I'm strongly considering putting the ar above it. It's just so stupid at range. I've been killed cross map by an AR when my shields were down. That should never happen. And I've been killed hundreds of times when it looks like I should be around a corner and protected but nope the magic ar not only has the OPness to get the killing shot it also can see through walls...
 
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