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A question for women and video gaming

Can the gaming industry do more to cater to women ?

  • Yes

    Votes: 49 35.8%
  • No

    Votes: 88 64.2%

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BbMajor7th

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You know, I've never come across any joke - no matter how well-structured or expertly delivered - that got funnier the more I heard it. You have to wonder why people tell certain old jokes over and over again. Maybe they hope they'll find people who haven't heard them, or maybe it's something else? One thing I do know is that these jokes that keep coming up time and again almost always involve belittling things and people. Odd that.
 

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Have you ever stopped to think that maybe they don’t care to be in this thread either and if you want their answers then you would have to come to them?

They are the ones being asked and if you think they have to go out of their way just to satisfy you, you need an entitlement check.

The fact is, you don’t NEED to come to their community just as they don’t NEED to engage here but if you WANT answers that aren’t just majority made by men then you would have to come to a place that have at least a substantial amount of women.

I don't want answers though. There are many reasons as have been discussed and most of them don't revolve around the misconcpetion that women are on the periphery of something like this, too meek or demure to participate:



The fact is you're not going to get a flood of these gamer girls on any of these forums pouring into the thread to share their life stories, they never do despite how many times this gets asked in various guises down the internet ages. How many women post on the sports team forums? How many women are on the neopets forums?

Have you stopped to think they don't want to be polled as their gender, so ignore threads like this? Or they don't want to post in a thread specifically setup to confirm they are women? There is as much merit in speculation about 'muh toxic gamers' as there in 'girls wanting to avoid dweeby white knights'. It can;t be the same reason why mumsnet is heavily weighted female can it?

What do you think happened when women started going to sports games regularly? Were we all told to sit on our hands, dust our brow with sweat cloths and keep the yelling at the ref to a hushed whisper with no expletives? Of course not, yet more women than ever go the game now. Women are perfectly capable of deciding where to post and what to do.
 

BabyYoda

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I don't know any gaming women personally.... So 40% is not something I imagine. Online gaming also confirms my observation.
But ok. I only see a small bubble
The female of the species are nowhere near as competitive, with some outliers of course.


I find girls tend to grow out of Videogames when they get older, much more so than guys anyway. I do know of one hardcore girl gamer though and she is rather competitive actually, she ain't very lady like though, bit of a tomboy!

But she never plays alone and I suspect it's more about the social aspect really (she only plays with her bf now), she never frequents gaming forums or gaming related sites or YT channels of any kind.

I think trying to appeal to girl gamers is a mistake, they tend to prefer mobile gaming anyway, let's not ruin our beloved hobby by trying to appeal to a demographic that mostly would rather spend their time elsewhere anyway.

As I write this, my 5&7 Yr old nephew and niece are playing Lego Batman 2 (they love the open world city) and already my niece shows less interest in gaming than she used to, my nephew is already showing signs of being a hardcore gamer, he'd play all day long if his dad let him...my nephew is highly competitive and mh niece isn't at all. The latter is more social, she doesn't like playing alone, the former is fine with that!

It's not at all conclusive, but I see this kind of trend all the time and no amount of social engineering or pandering to certain demographics will change this imho! The same reason there are more male engineers and more female vets, it's in their dna, nothing to do with inequality!
 
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The one woman I know who enjoys playing very specific genre games occasionally and watching me play cinematic/"thrilling" games (Like RE8 Village recently) IS put off by violence and gore and killing of innocent animals but she is in all media, not just games.

I think the main thing that puts her off playing games generally is A) The time they take to learn/complete and B) The accessibility of them. She'd be much more likely to give things a go if she could jump straight in and play for 15-20 mins, I mean 30 seconds to in-game and if she dies to not go back more than 2 minutes of play time.

All those things we seasoned players groan at in games like constant popups, tutorials and keeping it mega simple are the things she needs to even know what to do due to not having the knowledge of playing 1000 games before that one, like me.

Shes enjoyed problem solving and logic puzzles outside of games so its not about that side of it, its about knowing the expected rules of games and how that cuts down the range of things you think to do in a given situation.
 

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I don't want answers though. There are many reasons as have been discussed and most of them don't revolve around the misconcpetion that women are on the periphery of something like this, too meek or demure to participate:
This is ridiculous. Why even reply to my post then. It was aimed at the posters who want women to answer the thread‘s question.
Have you stopped to think they don't want to be polled as their gender, so ignore threads like this? Or they don't want to post in a thread specifically setup to confirm they are women? There is as much merit in speculation about 'muh toxic gamers' as there in 'girls wanting to avoid dweeby white knights'. It can;t be the same reason why mumsnet is heavily weighted female can it?
They don’t need to be polled as even in the post I mentioned facebook where it can be easily discerned if you really want. Also, who says they even need to be polled? The problem is that it seems so easy to dismiss ones opinion here if you haven’t explicitly stated that you are a woman. You said it yourself that you don’t need to be a certain gender and just have gaming knowledge if you want a discussion.
The fact is you're not going to get a flood of these gamer girls on any of these forums pouring into the thread to share their life stories, they never do despite how many times this gets asked in various guises down the internet ages. How many women post on the sports team forums? How many women are on the neopets forums?
Get out of your bubble. This kind of discussion where women actually gave their opinion has happened in many places and even recently in my SMT/Persona group especially with sexualization. I don’t like Resetera but even they have these kinds of discussions and women actually participate.
 
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I don't want answers though. There are many reasons as have been discussed and most of them don't revolve around the misconcpetion that women are on the periphery of something like this, too meek or demure to participate:



The fact is you're not going to get a flood of these gamer girls on any of these forums pouring into the thread to share their life stories, they never do despite how many times this gets asked in various guises down the internet ages. How many women post on the sports team forums? How many women are on the neopets forums?

Have you stopped to think they don't want to be polled as their gender, so ignore threads like this? Or they don't want to post in a thread specifically setup to confirm they are women? There is as much merit in speculation about 'muh toxic gamers' as there in 'girls wanting to avoid dweeby white knights'. It can;t be the same reason why mumsnet is heavily weighted female can it?

What do you think happened when women started going to sports games regularly? Were we all told to sit on our hands, dust our brow with sweat cloths and keep the yelling at the ref to a hushed whisper with no expletives? Of course not, yet more women than ever go the game now. Women are perfectly capable of deciding where to post and what to do.

While I don't disagree in principle, I think it's worth wondering about a lot of posts in this thread and seriously asking yourself whether or not a woman would feel encouraged to offer their opinions when there appears to be a general tone that diminishes, belittles or undermines them. That's not to say that I think every space should be shoulder-rubbing circle of positive reinforcement and confirmation bias - but it's worth putting yourself in the other person's shoes sometimes.

If you were posting on a separate forum about something totally unrelated to video games - a place where you were generally respected, let's say - and someone opened a thread asking 'gamers' about their thoughts on something and the first page was full of posts talking about 'men-children', 'neckbeards' and 'basement-dwelling virgins' who needed to 'grow the fuck up', 'join the real world' and 'move out of their parents' place' you might understandably wonder whether your contribution as an actual gamer would be worth the hassle or whether or not you wouldn't get a bunch of ass-hats saying 'sure thing virgin boy - why do you go jack off to Laura Croft or whoever'.

I know I wouldn't waste my time trying to talk it out with people who just ignore what I'm saying and rip the piss because it suits their world view to treat all people who play video games as underdeveloped and immature.
 
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about the responses about why women haven’t given out their opinion in this thread need to to evaluate first how many women are active in neogaf first.

I mean just go to specific game pages on facebook and servers on discord and you would find many women are actually engaging in the gaming community. I mean just on the Resident Evil page I frequent to, there’s like tons of them. Discussion ranging from serious lore and mechanics to husbando polls about Dante and Leon.

Just like how people try to say that women are free to come to neogaf and participate, how about you step out of your bubble and try engaging in their community where they are.

Also, it’s kinda hard to post on this thread when half of it already dismisses the notion of women giving their opinion. How about try to be welcoming first so we can actually have a discussion where women won’t feel like they’ll be immediately be criticized if they ruffled your feathers.

It’s a serious discussion that needs serious answers.

Do you go to women dominated hobbyist forums and ask what the industry needs to do to cater to men, and then claim it's a serious discussion that needs serious answers?
 

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Do you go to women dominated hobbyist forums and ask what the industry needs to do to cater to men, and then claim it's a serious discussion that needs serious answers?
I haven’t done yet but why not? Is this some kind of gotcha or something?

I myself have been asked this question by my sister who wanted me to join her and be a fan of BTS.
 
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Why does there have to be an equal percentage of men and women involved in doing things?

Only the corporations should care, as they get more customers.
 
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I never said it was funny. It was very obvious. If it wasn't obvious how did you get onto the fact it was a joke? It's the obviousness of the jokes that triggered you, that you had to pick up on them. It prompted your first reply. You knew it was a blatant stupid one liner and you got into your battle armour right away. That's up to you. I looked at it, smirked then moved on with my life.

It's clear that you just don't have those social relationships where you take the piss out of each other based on stupid stereotypes and develop closeness. Like the 'old' jokes you use for your manager or coworkers etc. where you rip each other.

This is basically you to all women, waving round Call of Duty, Overwatch etc. imagining there's something wrong that they just want to play games they like and join communities that interest them.



To be honest this obsession about getting identified girls into the forums sounds way more neckbeard to me. It's like 'we wantz the hot gamergurlz, lulz'.

This is just a post of stuff you've entirely made up in your own head, after accusing me of imagining things. Someone said
It would be helpful if we had those species sometimes here on the forum to discuss with, instead of bunch of guys arguing what’s best for them.

And I responded simply saying maybe more would if the thread didn't start off with people making sexist jokes. Everything that came after that is stuff you just made up. Me only knowing women who are miserable, me being a woman, me putting on "battle armour", me being a neckbeard who is campaiging for more women to post on the forum, me not having friends that I can joke around with, me imagining that "here's something wrong that they just want to play games they like and join communities that interest them", me being triggered over a lazy, worn out joke. Literally none of that has come from anything I've said, it's all stuff you have entirely fabricated based on one post I made directly answering a question someone else posed.

Good lord man, try and make it through one post without just completely making stuff up and accusing me of stuff I haven't even come close to doing. It became clear several posts ago that you weren't trying to have a good faith conversation but this latest post just takes it to the extreme.
 
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I'm saying why would you expect them to bother engaging with people who still thinks "tee hee girls are for cleaning and cooking" is a funny thing to say in 2021. I'm not even a girl and even I don't think those people are worth engaging with when the topic of conversation is related to sexism.

Good job trying to twist my words though I guess?
I don’t see those kind of posts very often these days, at least not here. Maybe some odd one here and there. There’s a humor and gifs, yes, but people are generally mature. That’s my sentiment, at least.
 

BbMajor7th

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Do you go to women dominated hobbyist forums and ask what the industry needs to do to cater to men, and then claim it's a serious discussion that needs serious answers?

If you were a man trying to carve out a career in a traditionally female dominated industry, you might do just that: say you wanted to be a beautician, a nurse or a child care specialist, it might be worth asking why it's hard as a man to make a break into that industry.
 

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I don’t see those kind of posts very often these days, at least not here. Maybe some odd one here and there. There’s a humor and gifs, yes, but people are generally mature. That’s my sentiment, at least.

You should read the rest of the thread before making a post like that. "Mature" isn't exactly the word I would use to discuss the discourse that's been going on.
 

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I'm a woman gamer. I don't want the industry to "do more for me." I want the industry to make good games and hardware that appeal to a broad audience. Throw in the ass and boobies. Let's offend some people. Gaming is art. Not everyone has to like the same art.

Let's go!
 

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I love violent games and I love games like the Sims and Animal Crossing. I absolutely love horror movies, Junji Ito, and many other comics, but I also love Jane Austen (although I bloody hate chick flicks with a passion). My point is that women are (shockingly) just like you and have varied tastes. I also have several friends that play games and are just as passionate about them as you all are.

Personally I have never felt that gaming is a male pastime that I can’t be a part of, to me it is just like the movie industry in that I feel there is something out there for everyone.
 

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Lots of men such as myself buy the new systems coming out to play the new games, a lot of the time they are of the very violent category. Of course a lot of women are turned off by it and won't buy it.
Aren't you essentially saying that there are types of games that women are not interesting in?
Which would mean they are not playing MK 11:Taliban Design Edition because they are women and not because patriarchy (male conspiracy against women).

That's pretty sexist, is it not?
 

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You should read the rest of the thread before making a post like that. "Mature" isn't exactly the word I would use to discuss the discourse that's been going on.
There was that member who didn’t shy away from saying she’s a girl/woman and afaik no one teased her or made jokes. Always had interesting things to say and you could feel that it was coming from someone who’s not as rough as your typical guy. Can’t remember the name, darn it, but think she’s banned now.

Of course when you create such a tendentious title like in this topic you’re gonna get snarky answers. It always happens.
 
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llien

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40% of people playing on PS are women if we are to believe the statistics posted by Sony.
41% of PS5 owners, said the link.
To make it "playing on PS", you need either to define it as "playing at all" or assume that hours spent on console are the same for both sexes.
 

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My wife is a big fan of games like Oxygen Not Included, Evil Genius, and even League of Legends. Where she struggles are dynamic camera control games, so in other words TPS and FPS. It's not the violence she doesn't like, it's the fast paced and frantic gameplay (by comparison), even something like Valheim, Raft, and Minecraft she found less appealing for the same reason.

Typically the you can categorize "female gamers" in two major groups, those who grew up with "real games" being a major part of their childhood and continued since, and those who started gaming later on in life. The first group typically likes more or less the same games male gamers do (with perhaps less focus on sports), while the second group mostly likes mobile and browser based games, with a few exceptions like Just Dance and Sims ect. Because of this I don't know that there is much game companies need to do, it's going to slowly normalize over time as more young girls grow up with gamer dads who want to share their hobby. There are biological differences between men and women of course and the people on the extremes of this will be less likely to like the same things as the ones on the other end, but that will always be the case and there are already extremely "girl targeted" games like dating sims and well The Sims, and "guy targeted" games of course a plenty...the market will decide what publishers focus on, they don't owe any particular demographic anything.
 

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40% is misleading (if true at all).

There`s not a sigle human endevour that represents perfectly the gender/race distribution observed on the whole population. Religion, political affiliation, sports preference, movies genres, etc all have very different gender/race representation.

Games is no diferrent, different plattaforms, genres, etc will have a very different gender composition. Some will have a much bigger female audience, while others almost none, and the same goes on for male audience.

Problems arrive when companies try to appeal to an audience that doesnt give a shit about those type of games.... you don`t see game developers of games with majority female audience making changes to try to apeal to male audiences, thats just bad business.

Why companies on the oposite side do this, is a mistery.
 

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I think trying to appeal to girl gamers is a mistake

Sims anyone?


There are games one gender largely prefers, and the other way around.

Girl Why Dont We Have Both GIF


I think it gets problematic when certain type weaponize stats and come with whole ideologies to control other people, such developers. (e.g. shitstorm around Kingdom Come)

Curiously, actually solving the issue (if one perceives gender gap at such things as an issue to begin with) is not in the interest of the said folks as it renders them irrelevant.
 

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You should read the rest of the thread before making a post like that. "Mature" isn't exactly the word I would use to discuss the discourse that's been going on.

At least we both agree you're acting immature then. And again we're back to you being unable to sense or discern tone of forum posts in direct opposition to someone else who spends a decent amount of time posting here. The only issue here is your poor reading of social interactions in an established community. Only one of us has attempted to show actual data - some self identifying spread across various gaming reddits and some from polygons article on the quantic dream survey. I'd say it's pretty clear who wants to discuss this topic properly and who doesn't. Until then you'll get the responses you warrant. As for imagining, I believe your first post actually contained the word. Might have been second post.

Get out of your bubble. This kind of discussion where women actually gave their opinion has happened in many places and even recently in my SMT/Persona group especially with sexualization. I don’t like Resetera but even they have these kinds of discussions and women actually participate.

Ah.....era. 'Women'. 'Sexualisation'. 'Bubble'. Enough said. Moving on.

While I don't disagree in principle, I think it's worth wondering about a lot of posts in this thread and seriously asking yourself whether or not a woman would feel encouraged to offer their opinions when there appears to be a general tone that diminishes, belittles or undermines them. That's not to say that I think every space should be shoulder-rubbing circle of positive reinforcement and confirmation bias - but it's worth putting yourself in the other person's shoes sometimes.

All of that is pointless to me though, because you're taking things that don't apply to you and then putting them on yourself. Literally I don't give a shit who calls who what on the internet. One of my favourite hobbies is controlling little digital men and women and wasting an enormous amount of time fighting shit and doing nothing worthwhile. I'm ok with that. I think that speaks to a deeper problem of self worth in all honesty if you are internalising all that. And that's an issue across the internet, not games specifically.


Aside from the above though the general tone in the thread is how can games attract a wider female audience? The topic started by slicing this down to genre and appealability to gender groups - which is a fair enough talking point. Then it went on to label these as exclusionary groups (macho, testosterone etc.) - I don't agree with this but it's still a core follow on. Then we come onto the toxic masculine, dudebro chat. First one was about Aloy, and the second was about sexist jokes but basically they both alluded to men making the hobby unapproachable for women.

See the thing is when you go to an expo it's 90% of drippy dudes, dudes with mcdonalds tits, young/shy awkward teens, maladjusted adults with little social skills. It's probably the least threatening or intimidating place you could go if you loved the hobby. How many girls do you see there? Generally a few cosplayers, some girlfriends and maybe a couple of groups of art grads......at a push. The narrative that tries to get pushed is not a true reflection of the world.

The best selling games of 2020? Ghost of Tsushima, The Last of Us II, Animal Crossing - two of those probably the high point of single player narrative gaming ever. Yet only animal crossing was able to really get a core interest share from women. Why? None of those games require any interaction with anyone. Same as god of war. They are pure single player experiences.

Anyway, I;ve spent too much time in here and there are other topics to discuss so like Rascall Flatts, I'm movin' on
 
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There are a few, few women here but otherwise this forum is too far gone, and I don't blame women for either not knowing about this site and/or not joining it. It would take a cleanup crew of mods to make this place more inviting for more women(which would in-turn piss off the more controversial members here), especially with some posters here who tend to deflect a ton and throw blame back onto others instead of taking a minute to look in the mirror. There's already one of those types in here, on page one.


I see those obstacles as nothing but opportunities. NeoGAF needs to reinvent itself after the notorious "purge/exodus" of several years back, and adding a large number of women gamers would be the perfect solution. You're adding new perspectives and points of view, keeping current with modern videogames and removing the last vestiges of the old order.

As for all the negativity, we really don't need that. We need fewer Comic Book Guys and more positivity, as well as more voices from within the industry.
 
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It's time the average westerner understands that human males and females differ in lots of ways, and for biological reasons, not for reasons of the "nurture" kind. Because the sexes are not equal, they behave differently and make different choices. Such as: "How do I spend my free time?". Quotas can't cancel biology.
 

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As of February 2019—before the release of Animal Crossing!—the Switch userbase was split 50/50 between male and female gamers. At the same time, the Xbox One and PS4 were only slightly male-skewing. And this isn't accounting for mobile gaming.

So, I don't think there's a huge gap between the number of men and the number of women who game. I just think it seems that way because the AAA multi-million dollar games that consume most of the discourse in enthusiast circles are designed to cater to a male audience, and because the way this topic is handled in the cllickbait engagement-driven gaming media is often about how women are portrayed in games that are marketed mostly to men, rather than providing more focus on games that attract a largely female audience (aside from your occasional breakout hit like Animal Crossing) or that appeal pretty evenly to both men and women.

This is another case where the desire to stoke controversy and our deep-seated need to scream at each other has papered over a positive reality (both men and women love video games!) with vitriolic nonsense.
 

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I don't think women want to see ugly women to "feel more positively about themselves"... Like seeing weak men in action movies doesn't make me feel better.

Maybe go out and ask some chicks to see what they prefer, but I assume most like to see a beautiful/inspired idea of what a women is.
But it was men who said Allow was ugly and fat… we are still talking about what women think and what or what we think they want?


I don’t need to ask, I have tiktok and YouTube, I saw lots of women rolling their eyes at that topic, others making fun of the guy who said “women who play games are bad at it and ugly”
 
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I think the industry is fine for the most part, but often times it's the actual community who's the problem. Maybe like a 35-65 split with the major onus being on us. Too many nasty folks hiding behind anonymity and hurling abuse. I don't think discourse should be censored or controlled by corpos but we should probably self police more.
 
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Sims anyone?


There are games one gender largely prefers, and the other way around.

Girl Why Dont We Have Both GIF


I think it gets problematic when certain type weaponize stats and come with whole ideologies to control other people, such developers. (e.g. shitstorm around Kingdom Come)

Curiously, actually solving the issue (if one perceives gender gap at such things as an issue to begin with) is not in the interest of the said folks as it renders them irrelevant.
I'd personally like to see more games aimed for all the family, not one particular demographic, that is if they are really wanting to reach more people.

Saying that, I'm OK with games being built from the ground up for the fairer sex though, but trying to make COD etc more attractive to them is where they are going wrong imo, if a human female (I say that like a Ferengi) wants to play COD, then it's because they want to enjoy some macho action, surely...if you feminise said franchise, I think you're more so in danger of alienating current fans, it's counterproductive.

I like to think most women aren't so impressed with token gestures made to attract them to a particular game or franchise anyway, the same goes for other groups they try to attract, it's so contrived. Just make a badass game bulging with testosterone and manly moutaches, or a super cute game that sparkles with estrogen and unicorns, but keep that away from our established series (too late)!
 
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I see those obstacles as nothing but opportunities. NeoGAF needs to reinvent itself after the notorious "purge/exodus" of several years back, and adding a large number of women gamers would be the perfect solution. You're adding new perspectives and points of view, keeping current with modern videogames and removing the last vestiges of the old order.

As for all the negativity, we really don't need that. We need fewer Comic Book Guys and more positivity, as well as more voices from within the industry.

I see current Neogaf as that reinvention. Both sites are completely fractured without the other(Resetera is too strict and Neogaf is too loose) and when taking a step back you can really tell that deep down both communities need each other to keep the other party in check.

As we currently are, there's no way we can entice more women gamers to come here. We have coomer threads on the forefront of our off topic section and people are too redpilled and borderline incel with opinions towards women and they won't back down on that opinion when called out or corrected on it(it's happening in this very thread). To add on top of that, the gaming community here is mostly jaded twenty-somethings or jaded older dudes who still want gaming to be like it was in the 90s and early 2000s(including the sexualization of women and men in games and media). I can try to bring positivity here and there from time to time but me and the few others like yourself here can only do so much without the help of stricter moderation(which again, they will hate).
 

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I see current Neogaf as that reinvention. Both sites are completely fractured without the other(Resetera is too strict and Neogaf is too loose) and when taking a step back you can really tell that deep down both communities need each other to keep the other party in check.

As we currently are, there's no way we can entice more women gamers to come here. We have coomer threads on the forefront of our off topic section and people are too redpilled and borderline incel with opinions towards women and they won't back down on that opinion when called out or corrected on it(it's happening in this very thread). To add on top of that, the gaming community here is mostly jaded twenty-somethings or jaded older dudes who still want gaming to be like it was in the 90s and early 2000s(including the sexualization of women and men in games and media). I can try to bring positivity here and there from time to time but me and the few others like yourself here can only do so much without the help of stricter moderation(which again, they will hate).
I agree. Let's kick out all the men so that Neogaf will be a safe space for women.
 

Jigsaah

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I think the industry is doing plenty right now. Personally I think if you're a gamer, regardless of sex you're playing for similar reasons. So a like Apex Legends I think appeals to both equally. the difference is in the societal stigma that still looms over gaming in general. It is slowly changing, but there's a way to go before women innately think gaming is for them as well. There's just a cultural shift that needs to happen.
 
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Elektro Demon

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I think the actual percentage of females playing games is very, very low. Internet thots play or pretend to play only for exposure and fame. And I don't count mobile and trashy facebook games as real games.
I've yet to see a female who's into gaming in real life.
Bitches be into taking selfies rather then gaemz.
 
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I think the actual percentage of females playing games is very, very low. Internet thots play or pretend to play only for exposure and fame. And I don't count mobile and trashy facebook games as real games.
I've yet to see a female who's into gaming in real life.
Bitches be into taking selfies rather then gaemz.
Jesus fucking Christ.
 
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Fredrik

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It’s already taken care of. PC gaming is where it’s at, I know lots of women who’re into PC games. And my wife was a PC gamer like 2 decades before me, playing Myst, Civilization, Sims, The Elder Scrolls, Diablo, Wizardry, RuneScape, Spore etc etc. Cousin is the same, even create mods. Daughter is a gamer too.
No shooters though, and blood/gore gets deactivated. Maybe that’s a guy thing?

Anyway I honestly think people just assume that women aren’t already gaming because they might not be seen at places like this as often, or people think that stuff needs to change because all that’s heard are some overly angry women who scream at everything in sight that ticks them off for the day.
 
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JeremyEtcetera

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I agree. Let's kick out all the men so that Neogaf will be a safe space for women.
You joke, but there are people here that unironically think I'm trying to state what you just said when I'm not. I just hope you're not one of them.
 
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