llien
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Neogaf is too loose
Neogaf is too loose
Go check out the AT&T-girl thread in off-topic and Easy Allies thread here. I can name more threads but those are just samples.
When is diversity not forced? Does it have to be an indie game?I honestly hate these types of discussions. People like what they like, whether male or female, and forced diversity is dumb. It doesn't create better environments for those who are in their respective communities. In fact, it usually fractures and degrades them.
As for the thread, is there not enough pandering to women today in games? Women, just like men, gravitate to quality products. Make good games, and they'll come. But you won't attract a 50/50 split. It's just not how it works. Trying to pander to women in fps games is a strategy, but one that won't be successful. Not many women gravitate to competitive shooting games. There could be many reasons why. No point in trying to force a change when they've shown their interest lies elsewhere.
It's exactly that toxic shit (which curiously resembles girl on girl bullying) which I do not want to creep in here.Go check out the AT&T-girl thread in off-topic and Easy Allies thread here. I can name more threads but those are just samples.
Welp, Scarlet in SC2. Although, transgender woman.I'm more wondering when we'll see the first woman e-sports gamer to win a championship or occupy a position in a winning team.
Because a long time ago, in a galaxy far far away, those people you criticize used to be here, having good back and forth debates and conversations with those here. There used to be a better balance, with users and moderation. Now both sides are glorified echo chambers. Theirs is just slightly louder than ours, but similar opinions are similar opinions. And both sides are stupidly throwing mud across the field at each other not knowing they're a reflection of the other in different clothing. It's dumb.It's exactly that toxic shit (which curiously resembles girl on girl bullying) which I do not want to creep in here.
Have an argument? State it.
Want to ban people who disagree with you? Uh, don't be a nazi.
There is overwhelming evidence that men and women, on average, quite differ in their tastes.
And then there are unfalsifiable theories explaining cherry picked gender gaps by there being male conspiracies or generic "men are bad".
My wife has played a lot of WoW (raiding guild) as a kick ass mage.
It is not even remotely imaginable that she'd ever bother checking out a gaming forum.
As for that other site, I've seen one of the "women... gaming" threads in there.
A bunch of grievance studies types spouting nonsense left and right, with mods banning users who show slightest sign of #wrongthink.
Why would anyone want to see people of that kind here?
I'm more wondering when we'll see the first woman e-sports gamer to win a championship or occupy a position in a winning team. That'll be the biggest sign for me personally that more women than ever are invested in video games. I don't think there are any notable female e-sports gamers than maybe... Geguri?
What?Jesus fucking Christ.
My wife loved the Battlefield 2042 gameplay, and halo. She hates talky games (basically RPGS). Give her a gun and let her kill shit is all she wants lol. Women are just as diverse in taste as men.My wife is too busy playing Ryza2 on switch to care about your question.. or to care about answering my question I should say. 'uh.. I don't know. I never really thought about it.'
She hated the microsoft conference full of angry characters, violence, and guns. Microsoft needs help when it comes to audiences beyond 16-26 yr old men.
Shin Megami Tensei is the game she's most likely looking forward to. Nintendo does it right when it comes to catering to women (in my useless man opinion).
My wife would never admit she is "into games" because she is a former sorority girl (Tri-delta) and has a stupid image she feels the need to uphold....but this woman has played Escape From Fucking Tarkov. That's pretty hardcore when put up against the soy boys who wet themselves over zelda games. I'd call her a real gamer.I think the actual percentage of females playing games is very, very low. Internet thots play or pretend to play only for exposure and fame. And I don't count mobile and trashy facebook games as real games.
I've yet to see a female who's into gaming in real life.
Bitches be into taking selfies rather then gaemz.
Anything created pre ~2008.When is diversity not forced? Does it have to be an indie game?
And what if dev teams also diversified since then? It's okay if someone creates characters that represent something not usually seen in the medium.Anything created pre ~2008.
Because a long time ago, in a galaxy far far away, those people you criticize used to be here, having good back and forth debates and conversations with those here. There used to be a better balance, with users and moderation. Now both sides are glorified echo chambers. Theirs is just slightly louder than ours, but similar opinions are similar opinions. And both sides are stupidly throwing mud across the field at each other not knowing they're a reflection of the other in different clothing. It's dumb.
What?
Did I rattle your progressive little brain?
Sometimes I think people expect all women to be caked in makeup at all points in time. This doesn't fit Alloy. Alloy is a fucking rock climber and the last thing she needs is dirt getting stuck in make up.Didn’t Sony said 40% of their gamers are women?
Found it
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I’m not sure the percentage of the rest of the industry. What can the gaming industry do? No idea, but after that thread of “ugly Alloy” maybe the problem is not in the industry but in some gamers perception of women.
people will burn me alive for saying this aren’t they?
Just wanted to drop a note to say that, yes, YOU ARE AWESOME!My best friend loves cute Nintendo games and certain mobile games, and plays all the time. She likes anything cute and abhors violence in games or on TV or in movies.
One of my good friends has a wife who is a hard-core Call of Duty player, loves scary games and shows and movies, and really only likes cute things for their daughter. She could also easily be a supermodel and has a very active social life.
My sisters and I growing up loved Nintendo and cute things, while also loving fighting games and scary more violent games and shows. We HATE real-world violence, but are okay mostly seeing it in media.
People, whether male or female, are ALL DIFFERENT. Men and women aren't a different species, and a lot of the time we enjoy the same things. Often, it's all who you enjoy those things with that make a difference in how long those varying interests will last as we go through life.
Wow, you do realize women can be attractive without makeup don’t you? What a dick thing to imply lol my gosh.Sometimes I think people expect all women to be caked in makeup at all points in time. This doesn't fit Alloy. Alloy is a fucking rock climber and the last thing she needs is dirt getting stuck in make up.
Sometimes I feel like people on gaf have never spent time with outdoorsy women because of comments like in that thread.
Backpacking? Why would you carry the extra weight of make up?
Biking? Why would you want runny make up?
Swimming? Shit is coming off anyways.
Is this a stealth thread for the op to figure out who the women are so he can stalk them?
This is the main issue so many are tired of having to endure.Talking about "women ruining our hobby" is a caveman level of logic. Our hobbie isn't ruined by women who play games, it's getting ruined by people of all genders and colors who DON'T ACTUALLY PLAY games and spineless devs/publishers who cater to them and listen to their constant and baseless whining.
there is no women in Neogaf.
GAF visitors were 11% female pre-split, 21% female now. Maybe you're too far gone.There are a few, few women here but otherwise this forum is too far gone
How many active?GAF visitors were 11% female pre-split, 21% female now. Maybe you're too far gone.
40% ?
38% are posers on twitch.
2% are real gamers.
You already told us the answer, didn't you? Since you produced all the NeoGAF statistics out of your ass?How many active?
You already told us the answer, didn't you? Since you produced all the NeoGAF statistics out of your ass?
Weirdly enough this response reveals more than my own. I won't go further into it though.You already told us the answer, didn't you? Since you produced all the NeoGAF statistics out of your ass?
U will be shocked at how many people i find in mmo's that are woman. Practically half of them are probably at this point.
The content is that the data is telling us more than 50% of the players are woman and still every major production is dudebro, I’m going to shoot you slice you. Is either the industry executives are leaving money on the counter or the woman are massively buying dudebro.I'm not trying to pick on you but those two statements are so colossally lacking in any kind of content, so heavily reliant on a wink and a nudge that i can't even.
My best friend loves cute Nintendo games and certain mobile games, and plays all the time. She likes anything cute and abhors violence in games or on TV or in movies.
One of my good friends has a wife who is a hard-core Call of Duty player, loves scary games and shows and movies, and really only likes cute things for their daughter. She could also easily be a supermodel and has a very active social life.
My sisters and I growing up loved Nintendo and cute things, while also loving fighting games and scary more violent games and shows. We HATE real-world violence, but are okay mostly seeing it in media.
People, whether male or female, are ALL DIFFERENT. Men and women aren't a different species, and a lot of the time we enjoy the same things. Often, it's all who you enjoy those things with that make a difference in how long those varying interests will last as we go through life.
Interesting. Maybe the forum seems 99% male because of how cringe everyone is every time a topic like this comes up. The women just end up hiding. Can't blame them tbh.GAF visitors were 11% female pre-split, 21% female now. Maybe you're too far gone.
Is there something wrong with women doing this for themselves? They too can take an interest, they too can learn the same indie tools or work for a studio, create art, animate, code, project lead etc. Why does it have to be a focused effort?
I think the actual percentage of females playing games is very, very low. Internet thots play or pretend to play only for exposure and fame. And I don't count mobile and trashy facebook games as real games.
I've yet to see a female who's into gaming in real life.
Bitches be into taking selfies rather then gaemz.
Are we seriously assuming, that there is that market waiting to be harvested, as in money to be made, but male conspiracy is preventing game studios from doing it?
Really?
What about erotic books for men?
Well over 90% of consumers are women.
What kind of conspiracy is causing that?
As in "candy crush" right? Ok.It's been proven a pretty balance market in terms of mobile gaming
And, say, students studying veterinary have become female dominated (90%+), although, they all want to work with cute little thingies, which has become a problem for farmers who happen to need people who can come and cure, you know, cows.but PC and consoles firmly remain male dominated