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After being a console player for last 6 years, buying a gaming PC is probably the best decision i made in gaming

Interfectum

Gold Member
Have you ever tried this? I hear people say this stuff all the time, "just plug it into a TV", but I never come across anyone who actually plays this way.

You don't wanna sit on a couch and use the PC normally (internet and stuff) you only wanna play games, so you have to boot up the games on the computer, and go to the couch and play, and it becomes this back and forth process, especially if you don't have the PC right next to your TV. I have no idea if I did something wrong here, but when I tried it, it was a moronic way to play.
I have a gaming PC that is exclusively connected to my 4K TV. PS5 controller + Mini-Keyboard for basic Windows / UI navigation and you are set.
 

Bragr

Member
^ You’re responding to a guy who claims to play on a PC but doesn’t know you can operate Steam with a controller, including launching or switching PC game
What's going on with random butthurt guys on here?

If you think big picture has the intuitiveness of a console, you are simply lying. The main reason why you got a console, is because you wanna play all the best games, not just a part of it.
 
If you think big picture has the intuitiveness of a console, you are simply lying.
But it has. What are you missing in BP? I find it really easy to use.

The main reason why you got a console, is because you wanna play all the best games, not just a part of it.
"all the best games" is subjective man. Your best games might not be the same as my best games, or that dude's best games.
 

Stuart360

Member
. The main reason why you got a console, is because you wanna play all the best games, not just a part of it.
But as i already point out PC gets more games than any console, all the consoles put together actually in terms of Indie and AA games.
What you mean is Sony games dont you, those 3 or 4 games they release a year, most/all that will end up on PC in the not too distant future anyway. That was a very weird statement dude.
 

Bragr

Member
"all the best games" is subjective man. Your best games might not be the same as my best games, or that dude's best games.
Last of Us 2, Tsushima, Returnal, Breath of the Wild, Mario Odyssey, Ratchet & Clank, Bowser's Fury, Forbidden West, Spider-Man, Smash etc... etc....

These are just a few games off the top of my head. One thing is to miss a few of these, but if you miss all of them, you are out of touch with a significant part of the games market. And if you go past the last 2-3 years, or look at the previous gen, if you were a PC-only gamer, you practically lived in a cave.
 

Stuart360

Member
Last of Us 2, Tsushima, Returnal, Breath of the Wild, Mario Odyssey, Ratchet & Clank, Bowser's Fury, Forbidden West, Spider-Man, Smash etc... etc....


:messenger_tears_of_joy:
 

yamaci17

Member
returnal, it is literally the most high budget+average unreal engine game ever. i have zero care that im not able to play it. even if it is ported to PC, I would not even care
ratched clank, gimmick above average game. maybe you can make an argument for its ray tracing modes and for its graphics. then again, i don't give a care
forbidden west, a mediocre wannabe farcry that takes itself serious but lacks compelling story telling. at least far cry games do not take themselves serious anymore. setting is interesting but execution is pretty poor. aside from the interesting setting and concept, gameplay and game mechanics are nothing to be miss out on. when i played horizon zero dawn, it was one of the most disappointing "ps exclusive" experiences i've ever had especially after my friend recommended it so much. it was devastating, not going to lie, to find a bad far cry copy that tries to tell a story through bad dialogues
Tsushima, this game is nothing special either. if you really thing people will miss out on games with this calibre, then you're seriously wrong

nintendo games are available only on nintendo and if you're a pure PS gamer (since you assume xbox players are pure xbox players, i also assume you must be a pure PlayStation gamer, so you're also missing out on them). technically PC players can play these games, specifically BotW at a consistent 60 FPS at 4K with a GPU from 2016, gtx 1070. I would say most PS/Xbox/PC players are missing out on BoTW though.

if i were to my own list it would be: god of war ragnar+ tlou2, spiderman, bloodborne. i would be "hyped" if these 4 particular games are ported to PC, but that's about it. i'm not going to burn my PC just for the sake of 4 games that are released across 8 years

all other games you've listed have tons of alternatives, and there are lots of pc/xbox exclusive games that are in the same calibre of them.
 
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rodrigolfp

Member
What's going on with random butthurt guys on here?

If you think big picture has the intuitiveness of a console, you are simply lying. The main reason why you got a console, is because you wanna play all the best games, not just a part of it.
Like shooters with mediocre gunplay on dual stick controller with pathetic aim assist at 30fps, right?
 

Stuart360

Member
Dude, your argument is "some of these games might come out PC if I wait for 4 years." Maybe it's time you opt out of this conversation.
Yeah those 3 or 4 games a year that make up like 1% of all the games released a year, literally.
I think its about time YOU opted out of the conversation because you have been proven wrong time and time again by numerous people. But as i suspected from the start, you're a Sony fanboy, so i shouldnt of expected anything less to be honest.

Oh and yes those games will be coming to PC at some point, unless you have been living ina cave for the last couple of years. And like i said earlier, unlike console gamers living game to game, PC gamers have more than enough to keep them going between games, hense why Epic Shitstore exclusives sell so well on Steam when the year of exclusivity is gone.
 
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Entry level mini PC's and laptops with iGPU's starting in late 2022-early 2023 with 5G/Wifi6e make PC gaming available to a broader non-gaming consumer

iphone/android phones can game and its available to anyone who wants to game without worrying about needing certain CPU's/GPU's for their hardware requirements because its powerful enough. But now with intel/amd iGPU's comming later this year and next year, consumers can finally play AAA games like forza, gears, god of war running fairly smoothly and online play out of the box. I think this has been the greatest barrier to PC gaming.
 
Last of Us 2, Tsushima, Returnal, Breath of the Wild, Mario Odyssey, Ratchet & Clank, Bowser's Fury, Forbidden West, Spider-Man, Smash etc... etc....
Doesn't seem like that much of a loss tbh.

Tlou2, it bore me a lot, very bad pacing and the story felt like a cheap TV drama to me. Same with Tsushima, although I had more fun with that one before dropping it in Act 2. Horizon is boring too. Never tried the Spider-man game, since I'm not too much into super heroes.

I've played all the Zeldas and Marios, they are cool yeah. That why I've always said that a Nintendo console + PC is the perfect combo, although with how much the Switch emulation scene is improving, one could argue a PC is enough.

But as I said, this is all subjective. As you can see your "best games" are kinda lame to me. If I'd like to speak about my best games as of late, I guess most of them will be multiplatform, but there are also some PC exclusives like HL Alyx, RimWorld or Factorio, those two I've put a lot of hours into, and I kinda guess you'll see them as lame games.

Anyway, still waiting on your reasons as to why Big Picture isn't a solution to the problem of "oh shit I have to walk around a bit to play a PC game on TV" problem you were talking earlier.
 

Durask

Member
I don't care much for Western games in general and most Japanese games these days seem to come out on Steam as well (Tales games, Falcom games, etc).

Xenoblade Chronicles is the only series that I had to get the Switch for.
 

ArtHands

Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
What's going on with random butthurt guys on here?

If you think big picture has the intuitiveness of a console, you are simply lying. The main reason why you got a console, is because you wanna play all the best games, not just a part of it.

Warning him that he might be wasting his time isn't being butthurt.

Big Picture does has the intuitiveness of a console, and I am not lying (nope, not letting you gaslight me). Feels like this is another sign you might not have a PC



The new Steam Deck UI (you can already use it unofficially on PC now) is basically the same as Switch's UI.



And PC do have lots of the best games as they pointed out. You can't play Factorio, DOTA 2, Phasmophobia, Valheim on consoles.

And if you’re only on Playstation 4/5, you are also missing out games like Monster Hunter Rise, Bravely Default 2, Halo MCC, Forza, Monster Hunter Stories 2, Microsoft Flight Simulator, Sunset Overdrive etc

What's with ignorant but manipulative console fanboys with those misinformation?
 
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PhaseJump

Member
What's going on with random butthurt guys on here?

If you think big picture has the intuitiveness of a console, you are simply lying. The main reason why you got a console, is because you wanna play all the best games, not just a part of it.
Last of Us 2, Tsushima, Returnal, Breath of the Wild, Mario Odyssey, Ratchet & Clank, Bowser's Fury, Forbidden West, Spider-Man, Smash etc... etc....

These are just a few games off the top of my head. One thing is to miss a few of these, but if you miss all of them, you are out of touch with a significant part of the games market. And if you go past the last 2-3 years, or look at the previous gen, if you were a PC-only gamer, you practically lived in a cave.

Steam OS 3 is more console-like than ever. Steam Deck is a subsidized handheld game console using PC standards. It also runs at least 4 of those games, with another 2 maybe getting ported in the future.

May Gaben bless you and keep you, console warrior.
 
Buying a new piece of hardware (for example, a graphics card) automatically remasters every single game on my PC collection.

That means that *I* determine when I want to play a remaster. I'm not at the mercy of a publisher's release schedule for a "remaster"... And also, I don't need to pay for a new version of the game. The same exact version of the game that I already bought will work even with hardware updates.

PC is fucking awesome.
 
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PhaseJump

Member
I have built gaming PCs for years and never really used them enough as I should have. I have Steam Machines and am not a big fan of old SteamOS BPM. I have thousands of games. I have Steam controllers, PS & Xbox controllers. All kinds of all the retro crap. I have Xbox Ones, a One X, multiple PS1-4's kicking around. I put Sega Genesis model 1, model 2 and a Analogue Mega SG in my setups because I am a mutant that needs to double tap and run through Shinobi 3's first stage twice a day to keep my dick from falling off and running away to find a better home. I have a Super NT hooked up with the pro flash cart so I can punish myself with baby mario crying or close my eyes and swing my sword in Soul Blazer to hear Maggie Simpson. My Sega Saturn is ready to go with satiator and all the stuff I could ever want. I built a MiSTer dedicated to Neo Geo & PC Engine.

I got a Steam Deck... I can't put it down.

Both a PC, and a console. I would easily recommend it, or throw a hot take at the whole thing and claim it to be the greatest game console ever made.

Eat my shorts.

 

ArtHands

Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
Steam OS 3 is more console-like than ever. Steam Deck is a subsidized handheld game console using PC standards. It also runs at least 4 of those games, with another 2 maybe getting ported in the future.

May Gaben bless you and keep you, console warrior.
I do not have any idea why some console warriors want to pretend to have a PC while spreading misinformation to defend console gaming. Is it because they want to artificially add more weight to their argument by pretending to have both PC and a console?
 

PhaseJump

Member
I do not have any idea why some console warriors want to pretend to have a PC while spreading misinformation to defend console gaming. Is it because they want to artificially add more weight to their argument by pretending to have both PC and a console?

Yes.

They are attached to their ecosystems, and view alternative platforms getting any sort of value as an existential threat; many viewing the corporate platform gatekeeper of their fond childhood memories as friends or something sacred. They will always downplay the open and free PC, as it always encroaches upon them in the generational price/performance arms race. They will always shit up the world with their deflective stupidity, telling themselves that they are preserving or passing down their feel-good brand love to a future generation. Lying to themselves, that they are special and extraordinary for having bought Brand X over Brand N or Brand P, mitigating all logic or reason that draws rational people to conclude that the companies that hawk these toys to people in the first place are the ones who should live or die by kissing asses, and not the other way around.



But what the fuck do I know? I'm just some fucking guy from the internet who buys all the platforms and shit posts in all directions for the comedy.
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
Last of Us 2, Tsushima, Returnal, Breath of the Wild, Mario Odyssey, Ratchet & Clank, Bowser's Fury, Forbidden West, Spider-Man, Smash etc... etc....

These are just a few games off the top of my head. One thing is to miss a few of these, but if you miss all of them, you are out of touch with a significant part of the games market. And if you go past the last 2-3 years, or look at the previous gen, if you were a PC-only gamer, you practically lived in a cave.
What if a gamer likes playing games with M/KB. Which platform would he choose to play on?
 

h0mebas3

Member
Sounds like a nice setup. Best of both worlds (PC/console). Like the idea of controlling the PC with the controller. Very cool.

I game in my office at home. Like you, gaming on the 55" TV. I have a monitor for work stuff. My PC sits between my desk and the TV. Have a nice comfy Serta office chair so almost as comfortable as a couch.



I use a laptop stand when I want to play with keyboard and mouse.



Works pretty damn well. When I'm using a controller for PC or console, just wheel the stand out of the way.

Can you tell me please what chair you have? Also what's the connectivity between the PC and the TV? HDMI?
 

Topher

Gold Member
Can you tell me please what chair you have? Also what's the connectivity between the PC and the TV? HDMI?

Sure. The chair is a Serta office chair. One of their executive big chairs. Got it at Office Depot. And yes, the PC connects to the TV via HDMI.
 
The new Steam Deck UI (you can already use it unofficially on PC now) is basically the same as Switch's UI.

10/10 GIF, seriously. Showing Steam Deck's UI. The very first game in the sequence?

God of War :messenger_tears_of_joy:

Look, I like both consoles and PC. As far as:
  • feature set
  • capability
  • flexibility
  • games catalog
PC is objectively superior.

Now, there are a lot of subjective factors (cost, personal judgement of "ease of use," preference for certain developers/publishers) that may sway your preference one way or the other, sure. But the fact remains that PC is unmatched in those categories I mentioned.
 

ArtHands

Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
Yes.

They are attached to their ecosystems, and view alternative platforms getting any sort of value as an existential threat; many viewing the corporate platform gatekeeper of their fond childhood memories as friends or something sacred. They will always downplay the open and free PC, as it always encroaches upon them in the generational price/performance arms race. They will always shit up the world with their deflective stupidity, telling themselves that they are preserving or passing down their feel-good brand love to a future generation. Lying to themselves, that they are special and extraordinary for having bought Brand X over Brand N or Brand P, mitigating all logic or reason that draws rational people to conclude that the companies that hawk these toys to people in the first place are the ones who should live or die by kissing asses, and not the other way around.



But what the fuck do I know? I'm just some fucking guy from the internet who buys all the platforms and shit posts in all directions for the comedy.

Man that's creepy. I do play consoles too, but the thought that PC-only players is living in a cave is hilarious especially when you consider the size of the esports and MMO scenes.
 
PC's adopting the form factor of consoles along with mini PC's will drastically increase the amount of PC gamers. 2023 will be the year of iGPU's (RDNA 3/Arc-Alchemist) finally gaining significant performance increase along with newer CPUs (Raptor Lake\Meteor lake\Zen4). Hopefully with PCIE5, newer NvME SSD's with DirectStorageAPI will have near console like instant loading.

 

PhaseJump

Member
PC's adopting the form factor of consoles along with mini PC's will drastically increase the amount of PC gamers. 2023 will be the year of iGPU's (RDNA 3/Arc-Alchemist) finally gaining significant performance increase along with newer CPUs (Raptor Lake\Meteor lake\Zen4). Hopefully with PCIE5, newer NvME SSD's with DirectStorageAPI will have near console like instant loading.


The SFF cases have been around forever, like Steam Machines. The problem is price/performance. We will get all the bells and whistles we want, but they will cost more than a grand and make it a non-starter.

Valve's the one who can turn the key on this. SteamOS 3 has the console UI it needs to put into Big Picture Mode. Valve's the one who could, and should jump into their own Steam Machine market and release a Linux PC console, perhaps with pushing the paradigm to be a new headless rig that serves multiple secondary sessions and wireless displays across your home.
 
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PC's adopting the form factor of consoles along with mini PC's will drastically increase the amount of PC gamers. 2023 will be the year of iGPU's (RDNA 3/Arc-Alchemist) finally gaining significant performance increase along with newer CPUs (Raptor Lake\Meteor lake\Zen4). Hopefully with PCIE5, newer NvME SSD's with DirectStorageAPI will have near console like instant loading.


I went in the other direction... two of my case fans are bigger than the PCs in those videos.
 
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BlackTron

Member
I'm conflicted.

My main PC is in a full-ATX case. It's an amazing case, and I love it; it's just.... big.

Still using the same bigass ATX case from my first custom PC early 2000's. It's getting kinda beat up but I love the thing. I really like how tech is getting smaller now though, I love the idea of a Steam Deck or really small high perf PC that you can throw in a backpack...though I guess I really should still just get a gaming laptop if I really want that lol.
 
Still using the same bigass ATX case from my first custom PC early 2000's. It's getting kinda beat up but I love the thing. I really like how tech is getting smaller now though, I love the idea of a Steam Deck or really small high perf PC that you can throw in a backpack...though I guess I really should still just get a gaming laptop if I really want that lol.
You've had the same case since the early 2000's? Holy shit!

What is the make/model of the case? I'm very curious...
 
My gaming PC is getting old. I'm Thinking of upgrading my build or just getting a gaming laptop
Depending on what you need a gaming laptop is pretty sweet! I have a beefy gaming PC but end up on my Legion half the time because it's easy to plug into my TV or play on the couch while the wife is watching TV.
 
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Boss Man

Member
PC's adopting the form factor of consoles along with mini PC's will drastically increase the amount of PC gamers. 2023 will be the year of iGPU's (RDNA 3/Arc-Alchemist) finally gaining significant performance increase along with newer CPUs (Raptor Lake\Meteor lake\Zen4). Hopefully with PCIE5, newer NvME SSD's with DirectStorageAPI will have near console like instant loading.

Between this and talk of SteamOS updates, I might consider building a gaming PC again. That wouldn’t work (seamlessly) with Gamepass though right?

I just always end up wanting to play on the couch with a controller, and when you pair that with a desire to go “bang for buck”…I always gravitate back to consoles.
 

DareDaniel

Neo Member
I've been playing videogames since the PS1 and had all other Sony consoles with the exception of PS5. I also had some Nintendo consoles, my last one was the Wii U (lol).
As an adult with the opportunity to work remotely from anywhere in the world, I've finally bought my first true gaming laptop because of portability and:
-Most games from PS5 and Xbox are available on PC which gives me the oportunity to play more games from different consoles
-I didn't try the switch emulator yet, but I want to play Bayonetta 3 using it (don't want to buy the console just for 1 or 2 games).
-As an ex-PS fanboy, I'm finally playing some Xbox exclusives (currently playing the Halo games, waiting for that Gears collection as well).
-Piracy.

I'll probably buy a PS5 in a few years for some of the exclusives that might never come to PC.
 

emajor

Member
Unless money is not a factor, fast frame rates for action games and highly detailed worlds for adventures is the right answer.
 
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