Framerate is much better on Series X, I think the PS5 version actually got worse with the patches with the stuttering.
If that's the 2.0 patch that NXGAMER did, there is actually a lot of discussion/details that are being left out of the 1FPS AVG difference as indicated by the bottom screenshot, like a lot more. Such as:
Or:
Dirt5 is a game that for sure favors the PS5 based on all the data that is available via DF and NX.
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That's because there's nothing like the spec differential you see between PS5-XSX in XSS-XSX, PS4-PS4 Pro, or in PC GPU space. What we have ended up getting with XSX and PS5 in terms of their GPU and their memory setup is unique to these two machines.
I understand all that and still maintain that PS consoles generally haven't been the strongest. I recognized the examples you are giving by saying: "there were brief moments during each console generation" where you can say it was more powerful (e.g. Saturn, Dreamcast) but PS1 < N64 and PS2 was < Xbox. PS3 & X360 I guess was pretty close or the advantages the PS3 had didn't show early enough. Yes, PS4 was stronger. I acknowledged as much.
Crash ran indeed better on PS5. In Assasin Creed it had a pretty significant advantage in min resolution with DRS over XSX:
When's that going to be?Bookmarked for when Sampler Feedback Streaming and Mesh Shaders are actually in games
Maybe its just me but I kinda find it surreal that i am reading a conversation between
Hmm that's not a fish I know. Forever in the dark with you hahaHow is Derry doing these days?
You would be the worst date on the planet, always late
Like I said earlier... Shin'en seems to prefer a consistent frame rate on all the platforms. If they'd found 8K rendering at inconsistent 60-50fps, the next logical step below that res would be to just render at 6K. I'd also said this in the Touryst thread last month:
PS5's GPU is indeed more powerful in certain areas than XSX GPU. Look deeper than just CU, teraflops, and bandwidth count alone.
Good post. Add Immortals Fenyx Rising to the PS5 column as well. Even after the update that improved Xbox performance, the PS5 doesnt drop resolution as much as XSX.
I mean, you have to at least appreciate that, for many people, it does quite often sound like XBOX's grand moment of success is always just around the next corner.
One second of gameplay is not representative of a whole gameplay experience, nor is one result representative of a whole chart.
When?
Surprised someone here didn't make a neogaf list yet, similarly to the OP picture.
They updated it:Just an FYI, something I just noticed while going through my albums. DF is prone to making mistakes as well.
In this scene, the xbox was actually dipping to 46 FPS at its worst point which would give the PS5 a 30% advantage.
Yep, I have posted this table several times.
The XSX numbers are from Xbox's Hot chips presentation. While the PS5 numbers were extrapolated from the same calculations used by MS to arrive at their numbers.
The question is why the performance in ray tracing games like Watch Dogs is so similar but so much better in Metro and Doom. In Control, the performance advantage averaged out at 16% which lines up with the 18% advantage mentioned above. And yet we saw FPS counts of 32 vs 33 in the infamous corridor of doom where ray traced reflections are at its most straining. So clearly, the xbox is being held back by something or the PS5's GPU advantages are making it perform better than it should. Otherwise, the advantage would be consistently at 18%.
Tier 2 VRS has already arrived.
Game was patched, the framerate is shown after the patch by VGTech and is better on Xbox.
Maybe there is a reason why this percentage is based on the theoretical max throughput, don't you think? The real world game performance differencial can be dictated by a lot of other factors, including the respective efficiency of the machines which is not/can not be exactly the same.Just an FYI, something I just noticed while going through my albums. DF is prone to making mistakes as well.
In this scene, the xbox was actually dipping to 46 FPS at its worst point which would give the PS5 a 30% advantage.
Yep, I have posted this table several times.
The XSX numbers are from Xbox's Hot chips presentation. While the PS5 numbers were extrapolated from the same calculations used by MS to arrive at their numbers.
The question is why the performance in ray tracing games like Watch Dogs is so similar but so much better in Metro and Doom. In Control, the performance advantage averaged out at 16% which lines up with the 18% advantage mentioned above. And yet we saw FPS counts of 32 vs 33 in the infamous corridor of doom where ray traced reflections are at its most straining. So clearly, the xbox is being held back by something or the PS5's GPU advantages are making it perform better than it should. Otherwise, the advantage would be consistently at 18%.
Why keep saying this misinformation about ps5 having more rops.
I debunked it last time we talked about it.
GhostRunner PS5/XSX/XSS DF Performance Analysis
runs surprisingly well :messenger_tears_of_joy: sadly I can't find a PS3 video, so no comparison possible at this time.. a shame now we may never know which console is truly more powerful!www.neogaf.com
PS1 release date: Dec 4 1994
Indeed. Especially when those RDNA2 based 'custom' APUs have other differentiating features like the Cache Scrubbers on PS5, which are really underdiscussed in matter of game performance i think.
Yeah, they made the PS5 version run worse after the patch and improved the Series X version.
Games can be bound by L1, L2 throughput too. I found this while profiling DOOM Eternal and Death Stranding (I even posted these screenshots in another thread). As you can see Eternal is predominantly CU/SM bound then memory bandwidth and then L1 and L2, which means the more SM/CU you throw at it the better it will perform, put simply it's compute-bound and explains why XSX is doing so much better in this title. Now look at Death Stranding frame, it's not behaving the same way as DOOM Eternal. It's almost always L1 throughput bound across many frames and less so by the SMs/CUs or other parts of the GPU.Just an FYI, something I just noticed while going through my albums. DF is prone to making mistakes as well.
In this scene, the xbox was actually dipping to 46 FPS at its worst point which would give the PS5 a 30% advantage.
Yep, I have posted this table several times.
The XSX numbers are from Xbox's Hot chips presentation. While the PS5 numbers were extrapolated from the same calculations used by MS to arrive at their numbers.
The question is why the performance in ray tracing games like Watch Dogs is so similar but so much better in Metro and Doom. In Control, the performance advantage averaged out at 16% which lines up with the 18% advantage mentioned above. And yet we saw FPS counts of 32 vs 33 in the infamous corridor of doom where ray traced reflections are at its most straining. So clearly, the xbox is being held back by something or the PS5's GPU advantages are making it perform better than it should. Otherwise, the advantage would be consistently at 18%.
What part is misinformation? The new Xbox RB+ doubled the color ROPs, but not the depth ROPs.Why keep saying this misinformation about ps5 having more rops.
I debunked it last time we talked about it.
GhostRunner PS5/XSX/XSS DF Performance Analysis
runs surprisingly well :messenger_tears_of_joy: sadly I can't find a PS3 video, so no comparison possible at this time.. a shame now we may never know which console is truly more powerful!
I never understood why the X1X was so impressive. It came out a year later and was still a $100 more expensive.
In stock at Bestbuy right now. I can place an order for pickup 11/21
Nope, the XSX-PS5 GPU situation isn't exactly comparable to 5700-5700 XT as I said here:
Look beyond teraflops and CU count.
