FingerBang
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February 28th for Ryzen 9
7900X3D $599
7950X3D $699
April 6th for Ryzen 5
7800X3D $449
Can't wait!
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If I had to guess, AMD is hoping that gamers who can't wait will opt to splurge for the higher margin premium chips. If they were all available at the same time, most gamer focused consumers would buy the 7800X3D.Weird that 7800x3d debuts so late.
Its marketing - they're hoping people will give in and get the latest n greatest (no matter what price it is)Weird that 7800x3d debuts so late.
It's becoming a popular scumbag tactic to get you to buy the more expensive product.Weird that 7800x3d debuts so late.
It will really depend on the performance. If the 5800X3D wasn't a one off and these chips offer a similar jump, I don't see Intel being able to compete easily.Surprisingly conservative pricing....obviously will be discounted by October/November.
So $400 dollars maybe even less for the 7800X3D by the time RaptorLake-SR hits.
Hopefully it performs super admirably and forces the RaptorLake-SR to come out at an even lower price point.
350 or less dollars for a 14700 sounds like an absolute treat.
Shame no 7600X3D....cuz that really would be a beast of a card.
Weird that 7800x3d debuts so late.
Do any PC games even take advantage of that many cores now though?
Not really. If you only want the CPU for games, get the 7800X3D.
Its almost certainly 6 + 6.Does anyone know how the CCDs are split in the 7900x?
If it's 6+6 than only 6 cores will have 3d cache, if it's 8+4 than the 8 core CCD will have 3d cache.
If it's the latter than 7900x3d is good alternative to 7800x3d, if it's the former the 7800x3d might be better in some games?
I don’t upgrade my CPU often though. I have hung onto my x58 platform since 2008. I did upgrade around 2010 to a Xeon X5655 I got off Ebay for like $30 but that was an easy swap as it was not an entire platform upgrade.
With a history of hanging onto CPU’s for over a decade, would you say more cores now will be useful down the road so I don’t have to bother upgrading everything?
Weird that 7800x3d debuts so late.
Seems to be another cash grab from AMD to get higher margins out of their consumers.Weird that 7800x3d debuts so late.
It's impossible to predict what a game will use in a decade time.
But probably it won't use more than 8 cores.
Besides, on the 7900X3D and 7950X3D, only one of the CCDs has the 3DV cache.
Oh shit, so in the case of the 7900X3D only 6 cores get exposure to the 3DV cache?
Ill give you a hint.....there wont be.Honestly not sure if there will be a big difference in gaming at 4k between all of these CPUs.
It's impossible to predict what a game will use in a decade time.
But probably it won't use more than 8 cores.
Besides, on the 7900X3D and 7950X3D, only one of the CCDs has the 3DV cache.
Unlikely, just difference probably wont be bigger than 15% in worst case scenarios, where price difference is pretty nasty still, altho all of them are pricey af.Ah, so for gaming, the 7800X3d may actually be better than the 79 and 7950?
Ah, so for gaming, the 7800X3d may actually be better than the 79 and 7950?
First I have to preface that I don't have all the information on Zen43D. So there is a bit of speculation.
But from what we know, the 7800X3D will have one CCD with 64MB of cache on top of it. Meaning all cores will have access to that extra cache (96MB L3)
Games rarely require more than 6C12T. So the 7800X3D will be the sweet spot for people who want a PC ONLY for gaming.
The 7900X3D and 7950X3D, will have one CCD with cache on top, and another CCD without cache on top.
That means one CCD with only 32MB of L3. And another CCD with 96MB of L3. This can be good and bad, although we will have to wait and see.
One of the issues of having cache sitting on top of the CPU, is that it reduces the CPU's ability to dissipate heat. This means the CPU will clock lower and it will reach MAxTJ faster and then start to throttle.
The good thing with having one CCD with cache and another without cache, is that the CCD without the cache can clock higher, and this is good for non-gaming applications.
So the 7900X3D and 7950X3D will have one CCD that has cache and is great for gaming, and another CCD without cache that is great for work applications.
These CPUs, will probably be the best of both worlds, for people that want a fast CPU for gaming and also for work.
The problem is how can the CPU know when to use each CCD, and in which situation. Because if the CPU puts a game in the CCD without cache, then it will lose performance, and the same if it places an application on the CCD with cache and lower clock.
This is why AMD and MS were talking about a new scheduler for Zen43D and Windows11. But we will have to wait and see, how well this new scheduler works.
interesting. Any talk on that scheduler coming to windows 10 or will it be necessary to upgrade to windows 11?
I expect it to behave like the 7950x3D when only the 3D cache cores are used, so pretty well. But I doubt it will be a massive upgrade if you're already on AM5. I was looking for a good reason to make the jump but don't see any reason to move from the 5800x3D. I might do it later if the 7950x3D gets a price cut.Less than a week until the 7800x3d comes out and reviews as well... how do you guys think the 7800x3d will compare to the 7700x?