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[Moriarty1889]

I would really love to hear what Phil Spencer has to say about yet another pitiful first party gamepass release. Let me guess…….

 

[Lokaum D+]

Is animations in this game downright broken? WTF!

She is a vampire, she moves her legs so fast that u cant even see, its a feature

 

[March Climber]

Phils silence is deafening right now

 

[Danjin44]

She is a vampire, she moves her legs so fast that u cant even see, its a feature

 

[marquimvfs]

This is bad by 1997 normal standards

No sir, GoldenEye was better than what I've seen

 

[SmokedMeat]

People are mocking them but as the last notable developers who used to tackle a genre I love, it fucking pains me to see Arkane reduced to some crappy assembly line of generic GAAS trash.

They’re right here. Microsoft’s Arkane isn’t the Arkane of old.

 

[JRW]

Even basic AI pathfinding seems broken: twitch.tv clip

 

[Pedro Motta]

I've seen better mobile games.

 

[MikeM]

It blows my mind that MS looked at this and said “this is fine” and greenlit the release.

Are they really trying to commit brand suicide with these missteps?

 

[ARK1391]

Does everyone remember IGN's preview team dying repeatedly during their missing? If this is the quality of the A.I how did they struggle that badly.....

 

[sono]

Oh dear

 

[Alex11]

They’re right here. Microsoft’s Arkane isn’t the Arkane of old.

Did a quick search and, yeah, that explains a lot, at least it's a bit of a closure/ish thing for me, lol, I sensed that it wasn't that same Arkane feeling with Deathloop and now Redfall, and every now and then just wondering what the hell happened. This is a real shame.

 

[TGO]

1993 called, it wants it's A.I back

 

[Lokaum D+]

 

[balls of snow]

Yep deleting this and installing Dishonored. Its telling not even stealthgamer br is doing anything on Redfall.

 

[Silver Wattle]

Is this what first party games from Microsoft are like now? They only delayed halo due to community feedback.
The guys in charge at Xbox need to follow Sony and Nintendo in making sure their first party releases are of a high standard.

 

[lostinblue]

a disaster like this will shut down the studio.

I hope not, but they need to get on track.

Such a good studio

 

[Thief1987]

It's like you all were born just yesterday, just type ai_disable 0 in the console - problem solved.

 

[Mr Reasonable]

Phils silence is deafening right now

I had been wondering if he'd comment.

Whatever people think of him, I believe that he genuinely plays games and that he likely had played Redfall sometime in the last couple of months and knew that it was going to suck at release. I also think he wouldn't want to put the game out in it's current state, and knew the shitstorm that would follow if they did.

I wonder what it's like the next time the department heads meet up.

 

[YeulEmeralda]

Feel bad for the developers that spent years on this. Hope they can move on to something better.

 

[sendit]

This game was originally slated to release last year…this is the optimized product…

 

[K' Dash]

is this happening to everyone playing the game?

I haven't seen anything outside of here.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Seems people say the AI in Deathloop and Redfall are both bad.

I never played Dishonored games, except for about 5 minutes worth.

Was the AI in Dishonored games any good? Just trying to learn if AI was good but trending down. Or their games have always had bad AI.

 

[Alex11]

Seems people say the AI in Deathloop and Redfall are both bad.

I never played Dishonored games, except for about 5 minutes worth.

Was the AI in Dishonored games any good? Just trying to learn if AI was good but trending down. Or their games have always had bad AI.

From my experience, not really, I mean imo it wasn't as brain dead as it was in Deathloop, but also it wasn't something amazing, and it had its moments where the AI was almost as bad, where they would come after you like like sheep to the slaughter.
But I think that it was forgiven or didn't stand out because it wasn't about loot and imo you weren't meant to just mow down everything in your path and it was a bit more challenging to do so. Playing stealth and going for ghost was a very different experience gameplay and story wise.

 

[ryzen1]

It blows my mind that MS looked at this and said “this is fine” and greenlit the release.

Are they really trying to commit brand suicide with these missteps?

Stop talking about games...
TALK ABOUT GAMEPASS

 

[StereoVsn]

They’re right here. Microsoft’s Arkane isn’t the Arkane of old.

Wait, Weird West was by ex-Arcane folks? Going to pick it up. Been sitting in my wishlist for a while now.

 

[ahtlas7]

Give that man another award!

 

[Cryio]

I know right. But even that was third party. Can you imagine a new Playstation game coming out from Insomniac or someone and performing like this!?

From Insomniac? So like Fuse, which is a trainwreck that does exist?

 

[Withnail]

From Insomniac? So like Fuse, which is a trainwreck that does exist?

Er, that was for EA. Sony wasn’t involved at all.

 

[ZoukGalaxy]

Seems people say the AI in Deathloop and Redfall are both bad.

I never played Dishonored games, except for about 5 minutes worth.

Was the AI in Dishonored games any good? Just trying to learn if AI was good but trending down. Or their games have always had bad AI.

It was Okish, enough to make the game enjoyable but nothing marvelous and definitely not Redfail level, a game like F.E.A.R. as old it is have a much impressive and efficient AI than Dishonored.

 

[Jboemios]

Questions for my game developer budies. Do developers need to develop and implement a new AI in every game or they can reuse it from another game?

 

[Games of Today]

From Insomniac? So like Fuse, which is a trainwreck that does exist?

Hahahaha oh my LORD what did you just spark in me LOL. I looked it up and realized Brian Bloom voices Dalton Brookes the black character.

I'm cracking up. I love him as Nick Reyes in CoD Infinite Warfare (incredible campaign). I may have to play this game now.

 

[Quantum253]

Bribery Is a hell of a drug

 

[hyperbertha]

Questions for my game developer budies. Do developers need to develop and implement a new AI in every game or they can reuse it from another game?

They can reuse portions of the code and remove some. For instance in this game they removed the pathfinding code and replaced it with rollerskating.

 

[CuteFaceJay]

I don't think the devs played F.E.A.R when in research process.

 

[MALpractice311]

They somehow made the AI worse than deathloop.

I was coming here to say just this. Brain dead AI was a huge reason for Deathloop being completely unengaging and somehow Arkane made it worse. It's also sounding like the shooting is somehow worse than Deathloop (which I called months ago) as well, with a huge deadzone and crap sensitivity settings. The absolute lack of effort in all aspects of it just screams Arkane made Redfall because they had to, not because they wanted to.