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[Black_Stride]

He goes from being a selfish, murderous jerk to being a selfish, murderous jerk

Exactly what I was thinking.

 

[HumanoidSharks]

Whenever you get to play as a villain in a shmup. I'll go with that.

 

[Ulysses 31]

He goes from being a selfish, murderous jerk to being a selfish, murderous jerk

Putting your life on the line in defence of another is not something selfish IMO.

 

[Neff]

Putting your life on the line in defence of another is not something selfish IMO.

He did it for himself because he had no-one else.

 

[Ulysses 31]

He did it for himself because he had no-one else.

And Ellie pushed him to see her as his new daughter for most of the journey despite Joel resisting it at first. But even if we ignore all that, despite of the "wrong" reason, he ended up doing something good.

 

[kyliethicc]

Ellie and Joel

 

[Labolas]

Ciam - Drakenguard

Siegfried - Soul Calibur

 

[DynamiteToadie]

Whats his character arc?

Just because Joel still ends up being a selfish man, he does go through a pretty big arc, going from being a person completely detached from his emotions that pushes everyone away to finally accepting a bond with another person, to the point that he would doom the chance of a cure just to keep her alive and remain close to her.

I know people sometimes think character arcs are this thing where characters do a complete 180, but that's never reality. Joel's arc is actually one of the better, more realistic arcs I've seen in games. He's still Joel, but he definitely changes.

 

[AJUMP23]

Mordin Solus form Mass Effect.