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Still waiting for the reveal of Modern Warfare 4 and hopefully, remasters of MW 2 and MW 3 come along with it.
Still waiting for the reveal of Modern Warfare 4 and hopefully, remasters of MW 2 and MW 3 come along with it.
I still don't understand'. Their business model are clearly different from the start, a new Pokemon will always be accompanied by a tons of related Pokemon merchandises, and that is just the tip of iceberg.
Literally took GTA over 10 years to create ONE game that outsold the average sales of a COD title. With a outlier that is GTA V which won't happen again. COD also doesn't have that many titles, you're basically insulting Mario and Pokemon indirectly by going after COD"s "quantity"
Grand Theft Auto has never been a slouch when it's come to making money, and I would like to see some figures on your behalf in regards to the average sales between the two franchises. As for the financially stability of the series on a whole, GTA VI will surpass the nearest COD title in terms of revenue, hype and critical scores.
This is nothing but pointless damage control. COD sells more per average and GTA V gave GTA an artificial boost adding 100 million that likely won't happen again. The average GTA game sales are lower and GTA has been around longer.
You're whole thing with scores, and GTA online revenue has nothing to do with the thread and is an attempt to shift the subject away from the fact COD currently is about to be second place. It has the highest sales per entry of any franchise and in only around 15 years.
This is about the "quality" of COD games. All this thread is about is that COD is about to be the second biggest game franchise. That's it. I don't get all this extra whining like "review scores" is going to suddenly change the fact of the thread.
COD sales are on the decline, with the latest installment selling around 15 million copies,
But the point I was trying to make about the quality of GTA games is that they'll be remembered and played many years from now.
One is a multiplatform series that releases on an average of 3+ consoles at a time. The other is a series that rarely releases on more than 1 console per release.
One has less than 30 games, one has over nearly 100 games and is also 5 or so years older. While releasing multiple versions of the same game. Also at COD's has sold more on one console than Pokemon has in the past.
What people are doing is trying to find an excuse to downplay the achievement that even similar types of games with similar budgets can't meet. Which I don't get.
Pokemon is older, has tons more games, multiple versions, has a console maker backing. COD is an impressive feat and no other gaming franchise has its sates average per game.
If you don't like COD say you don't like COD< but you don't need to try and make up excuses to defend Pokemon from COD, and then ignore all those other games that are set up like COD that can't even tough it, if it was as simple as releasing on 3+ consoles then why aren't there other IPS behind COD that do that?
This is literally false and you made up those numbers. RDR sold 17 million copies in 2018, COD was the best selling game in 2018 meaning it sold over 17_ million in the latest installment and that was BEFORE COD reached over 300 million, so it's likely over 20 for Black ops 4 and heading toward 30.
There are several older COD games people are still playing. Also a reason why MW got a remaster.
This is literally nothing but damage control, if you like GTA more fine, but as of RIGHT NOW COD is number 3 and closing in on number 2 and that's what the thread is about, the rest is pointless.
You're making up those figures too without providing a source. Here's the latest one I could find for CODIV sales figures:
Stop.
RDR sold 17 million in 2018.
COD is the best selling game of 2018.
This means COD was over 17 million Period.
That was BEFORE they crossed 300 million, which means it's likely BO4 is over 20 million.
The amount of DC is unneeded. COD is going to be 2nd soon, that's it. You are trying to make it seem like some kind of attack on GTA, calm down.
RDR has sold 23 million copies as of Feb 2019 and there's no doubt been a small increase since then. The article you've provided shows how COD did good business in the first couple of weeks of November, but RDR did even more business.
Gee, what makes you say that, S1L3NT SH0T 419?To me, the original Modern Warfare ushered in the era of FPS multiplayer gaming.
For sure everyone knows how big Pokemon is as a franchise. I will disagree if your narratives is that COD will be the 'bigger' game franchise, when all it points to is that their games sales being potentially higher at a later time. Again, I'm not trying to diminish COD as the peak of FPS, but you're gasping the wrong straw here. What is your definition of a 'game franchise' then? Am I wrong here?I don't know why you guys think COD doesn't have anything outside of games. They have merch and other stuff as well.
That's the only point I was trying to make.
And it was a goal post move because that whole statement of saying "But Pokemon has this" was a defense to try and diminish the very strong chance COD will pass Pokemon as a game franchise.
I don't know why that's needed though, it's still going to be top 3.
For sure everyone knows how big Pokemon is as a franchise. I will disagree if your narratives is that COD will be the 'bigger' game franchise, when all it points to is that their games sales being potentially higher at a later time. Again, I'm not trying to diminish COD as the peak of FPS, but you're gasping the wrong straw here. What is your definition of a 'game franchise' then? Am I wrong here?
Okay then. I'm just saying your title is wrong if that's your notion for this topic in my opinion.You're making up an argument that doesn't exist and was never made. This, not Pokemon Damage control. I never said anything about how much COD made in revenue compared to Pokemon outside of games, I only compared the only thing we objectively know and that is over 300 million sales for Call of Duty.
All these other arguments are popping out of thin air.
This is not relevant and you keept doing this, COD sold more than RDR in last time and was the biggest title in 2018. Thus we know that COD sold over 17 million in 2018, and by now that number is likely near 20.
You're original claim was there was a sales decline with the "latest COD" which isn't the case just based on what we know with the 2018 data.
You're speculating about the sales figures, but it would be surprising to see it reach the 30 million you're confident it will.
You said there was decline, I said there, wasn't and the 2018 info we have shows that it is not currently in decline with as you said the "lastest COD" and I never said it was going to sell 30 million. That's all stuff you made up for no real reason.
This is literally false and you made up those numbers. RDR sold 17 million copies in 2018, COD was the best selling game in 2018 meaning it sold over 17_ million in the latest installment and that was BEFORE COD reached over 300 million, so it's likely over 20 for Black ops 4 and heading toward 30
You're absolutely right. I should stop as I'm nothing more than a delusional fanboy with warped views and ideals.
Later
Wow. Look at IW shit the bed.Based on the Statista numbers which actually do start counting to 300mill+ if you add in the estimated MWR, reported cod 1, 2, 3 sales figures they have misrepresented in their graph. and the estimated 20m for bo4 which of course is still rising till november.
this is just estimation and by no means accurate data just math around numbers release by activision and what could be found across the net. I just thought it would be interesting to see.
I've actually had this gamertag since 2006 back when Gears of War came out. No need to make fun of it.Gee, what makes you say that, S1L3NT SH0T 419?
The best selling RPGs released in 1996 or before were:Well, I'm not sure RPGs were sold to the masses with nearly the same level of success. Red/Blue/Green sold 31M
Did any RPG up to that point (1996) sell even half that prior to Pokemon? Genuinely curious.
That's indeed a key difference between how Nintendo and Sony/Microsoft act as a platform holder.Nintendo builds their hardware around Mario and Pokemon.
Microsoft and Sony build theirs around Call of Duty.