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[Tschumi]

CP2077 gets a lot of hate. I'm not going to comment on that. What i will say is that I've played buttloads of it. About 200 hours now and yet, until today, I had never completed Judy's arc.

I blew it. At least, I think i made her lesbian. Not really, but I think Panam (also yet to be completed) is more my jam.

I think Panam will prefer my decision making process. Because I fucking ICED Maiko and that Australian dude at the first opportunity and I think that fucked things up. This is also good because Panam's bod is more my style.

You see, when I play these games, I keep it real (I am absolutely imitating OG Loc from San Andreas now) this usually means I'm pathologically non-lethal (hence 200 hours played, I've basically choked out every criminal in Night City twice over what with my rerolls) non-lethal of street thugs? Yes. Arasaka torturers? Yes. Gun-toting patriots? Mostly (you gotta break a few necks when they're hiding thuggish criminality behind patriotism after all!) Maiko? Fuck no.

As soon as that bitch started trying to take over Clouds and I had an option to open up, I popped all sorts of caps in her ass. And when she was down from Pax, still twitching, i pulled out a fucking big sniper rifle and buried one in her skull point blank.

No regrets.

Except i regret that, now, because the dolls are basically dead and Clouds has been re-fucked by the Tigerclaws and Judy has given me the "goodbye, V" after our little diving session.

I'm not going to reroll and do everything right to get in her pants, like i said i keep it real, I'd fuck arrogant Maiko and the bogan right the hell up all over again.

But what about you? How'd you guys do it? And, to make my poll options more clear: did you bed her, or did you not?

Ty for reading, looking forward to your input.

 

[GymWolf]

This is why i want to do a second run, a lot of sidequests feel like they can be played in a completely different way.

 

[kurisu_1974]

Pretty sure you can only romance her when using a female protagonist.

 

[Tschumi]

Pretty sure you can only romance her when using a female protagonist.

 

[Vagswarm]

Pretty sure you can only romance her when using a female protagonist.

This is what I saw all around Reddit. When I tried as a male during her quest line (in the big water area), she denied my advances, saying I'm not her type or something like that.

The game does a good job of making it seem like you have choices when you kind of really don't, lol. In the case of playing as a male character, they literally push you to go for Panam.

 

[applesaucejaxon]

I pretty much abandoned Judy before anything of substance started with that side quest. Panam was more interesting to me and I stuck with her for my playthrough. Was thinking I'll check out more of the available quests lines on my second playthrough whenever the new gen version comes out.

 

[AV]

She's gay, you can't romance her as a male. I played as a female but doesn't Judy make it pretty clear she's not interested in you if you're a male character?

Either way there's a mod to enable her romance as a male if you're on PC.

 

[Magic Carpet]

The only thing I was glad to be resolved was getting rid of that Diving Suit. I had found it on the dock before meeting Judy and the glitch in the game forced me to wear it until I got to that diving underwater town part.
I had forgot about that till this thread. thank you so much for reminding me about glitching my way through cp2077.

 

[Flutta]

She didnt want me stick i was like wtf. Then the internet told me you need to play as female , because reasons.

Thats about it. Waiting for CDPR fix the game before making another playthrough.

 

[SJRB]

Yeah, Judy is gay so you can't romance her as male V no matter how you resolve her questline.

Male V and female V both have one gay and one straight romance option.

 

[Dick Jones]

 

[existensmaximum]

Oh yeah. I played as a female and my #1 objective from the second we met was to romance her and focus on her. Followed a guide

Amazing character btw.

 

[Tschumi]

This all makes my "I think i made her lesbian" line in my op pretty hilarious rofl

I.. i thought she was bi, thought the game went either way.. i realised she had been together with Maiko (might be getting that name sightly wrong) but yeah, heaps of people were saying she's the best relationship so i just assumed! Oopsie!

 

[The Cockatrice]

Yes, shes a lesbian. Panam also prefers only men. Tough choice when you consider a second playthrough. I personally prefer Panam BUT if it were possible I would've loved to romance Evelyn but alas CDPR lied to all of us and choices never really matter, just a linear experience. Can;t really decide the fate of any characters.

 

[Tschumi]

Yes, shes a lesbian. Panam also prefers only men. Tough choice when you consider a second playthrough. I personally prefer Panam BUT if it were possible I would've loved to romance Evelyn but alas CDPR lied to all of us and choices never really matter, just a linear experience. Can;t really decide the fate of any characters.

I also didn't get to Evelyn's resolution until quite recently and that one really caught me out

 

[BuddyLaDouche]

The game does a good job of making it seem like you have choices when you kind of really don't,

This is CP2077 in a nutshell for me.

 

[Tschumi]

Vagswarm B BuddyLaDouche i get where ur coming from guys but i didn't really mind that much, i also expected more choice when it came out but i quickly realised what kinda game i had on my hands and shifted my sights... I can't get enough of it, really, i think the gameplay loop is pretty damn solid - almost mgs5 levels, at a stretch, i've recently started getting later-level missions that open doors that were locked earlier on, which has been a real trip - and as i've said ad nauseum i'm basically living my best Deus Ex Human Revolution life at the moment lol... I have been trying to climb like every building, and when i got double job i literally could climb like 95% of buildings and is good. I mean, the linearity of the storylines... I don't mind it, when I want story I do story, when I want things to kick off around me, I cruise or explore

 

[Denton]

The game does a good job of making it seem like you have choices when you kind of really don't, lol. In the case of playing as a male character, they literally push you to go for Panam.

You absolutely have plenty of choices how to resolve Judy's quests.

As far as romances, each sex gets one heterosexual and one homosexual option, with four detailed and quite extensive questlines. Maybe if they developed it for another 5 years we could get even more options, but...eh

 

[The Cockatrice]

You absolutely have plenty of choices how to resolve Judy's quests.

As far as romances, each sex gets one heterosexual and one homosexual option, with four detailed and quite extensive questlines. Maybe if they developed it for another 5 years we could get even more options, but...eh

It was proven by modders that the game had romances for both genders for all characters but they just cut that shit for no reason.

 

[Tschumi]

It was proven by modders that the game had romances for both genders for all characters but they just cut that shit for no reason.

yeah... can totally see getting all up in rogue fa shaw

 

[Vagswarm]

Vagswarm B BuddyLaDouche i get where ur coming from guys but i didn't really mind that much, i also expected more choice when it came out but i quickly realised what kinda game i had on my hands and shifted my sights... I can't get enough of it, really, i think the gameplay loop is pretty damn solid - almost mgs5 levels, at a stretch, i've recently started getting later-level missions that open doors that were locked earlier on, which has been a real trip - and as i've said ad nauseum i'm basically living my best Deus Ex Human Revolution life at the moment lol... I have been trying to climb like every building, and when i got double job i literally could climb like 95% of buildings and is good. I mean, the linearity of the storylines... I don't mind it, when I want story I do story, when I want things to kick off around me, I cruise or explore

I don't mind it either. The game was a lot of fun and well worth the time. I prefer the more linear, story-driven games anyway. The glitches and bugs were completely unnecessary though... especially after all this time.

Was just saying, that's how it was for the most part.

 

[Jigsaah]

CP2077 gets a lot of hate. I'm not going to comment on that. What i will say is that I've played buttloads of it. About 200 hours now and yet, until today, I had never completed Judy's arc.

Spoiler: i will spoil the rest of this op

I blew it. At least, I think i made her lesbian. Not really, but I think Panam (also yet to be completed) is more my jam.

I think Panam will prefer my decision making process. Because I fucking ICED Maiko and that Australian dude at the first opportunity and I think that fucked things up. This is also good because Panam's bod is more my style.

You see, when I play these games, I keep it real (I am absolutely imitating OG Loc from San Andreas now) this usually means I'm pathologically non-lethal (hence 200 hours played, I've basically choked out every criminal in Night City twice over what with my rerolls) non-lethal of street thugs? Yes. Arasaka torturers? Yes. Gun-toting patriots? Mostly (you gotta break a few necks when they're hiding thuggish criminality behind patriotism after all!) Maiko? Fuck no.

As soon as that bitch started trying to take over Clouds and I had an option to open up, I popped all sorts of caps in her ass. And when she was down from Pax, still twitching, i pulled out a fucking big sniper rifle and buried one in her skull point blank.

No regrets.

Except i regret that, now, because the dolls are basically dead and Clouds has been re-fucked by the Tigerclaws and Judy has given me the "goodbye, V" after our little diving session.

I'm not going to reroll and do everything right to get in her pants, like i said i keep it real, I'd fuck arrogant Maiko and the bogan right the hell up all over again.

But what about you? How'd you guys do it? And, to make my poll options more clear: did you bed her, or did you not?

Ty for reading, looking forward to your input.

So if you're female V, you can bang her...if you're male V you got no chance bud. Simple as that.

Judy is overrated anyways. Panam is life.

 

[Fredrik]

Judy pulls the friend card on you if you go with male V, unless you use mods. I’ve done Panam’s romance quest though, and it’s like playing Myst, I applaude anyone who did it perfectly without a guide

 

[Jigsaah]

Judy pulls the friend card on you if you go with male Z, unless you use mods. I’ve done Panam’s romance quest though, and it’s like playing Myst, I applaude anyone who did it perfectly without a guide

I'll take those claps. Thank you very much.

 

[Magic Carpet]

I’ve done Panam’s romance quest though, and it’s like playing Myst

Me too, I like them Myst games.
The Panam 'romance' was all about driving between the middle of nowhere and the city, back and forth over and over.

 

[Hugare]

Yeah, she is not into guys

Panam is way better, anyway

But I understand why you felt confused. Theg game gives you a looot of flirty dialog with every romanceable character even tho they may not be into your thing.

Like, there were some conversations with River that felt weird

 

[Tschumi]

I'll take those claps. Thank you very much.

I've heard it happens in a tank and i just stole that tank, and she's saying all the right things, we're cuddling and looking at stars and she's telling me to expect to be needed, but she's also been saying she's "afraid to mess it up" which worries me lol

 

[Tschumi]

Yeah, she is not into guys

Panam is way better, anyway

But I understand why you felt confused. Theg game gives you a looot of flirty dialog with every romanceable character even tho they may not be into your thing.

Like, there were some conversations with River that felt weird

I'm always kind of worried about being too nice to takemura lolll

 

[Fredrik]

I'll take those claps. Thank you very much.

If you did it without messing up anything you’re a true hero of romancing!
I’m still not sure I got the perfect ending, they seemed happy but if you check a guide there were traps everywhere lol

 

[ne1butu]

Judy pulls the friend card on you if you go with male Z, unless you use mods. I’ve done Panam’s romance quest though, and it’s like playing Myst, I applaude anyone who did it perfectly without a guide

Panam romance is a hard one? In my play through that just felt like the default choice, went along for the ride. Best ending IMO

 

[Vagswarm]

I pretty much abandoned Judy before anything of substance started with that side quest.

It's actually not that bad. The big water area is pretty cool and unique from what I remember. Those major character sub-quests are all worth doing IMO.

 

[DeaconOfTheDank]

Judy pulls the friend card on you if you go with male Z, unless you use mods. I’ve done Panam’s romance quest though, and it’s like playing Myst, I applaude anyone who did it perfectly without a guide

Not gonna lie, I simped pretty hard for Panam in my playthrough... Pretty sure she slept with my V out of pity

 

[Jigsaah]

I've heard it happens in a tank and i just stole that tank, and she's saying all the right things, we're cuddling and looking at stars and she's telling me to expect to be needed, but she's also been saying she's "afraid to mess it up" which worries me lol

I didn't wanna spoil it, but yea it goes down in the tank.

 

[Jigsaah]

If you did it without messing up anything you’re a true hero of romancing!
I’m still not sure I got the perfect ending, they seemed happy but if you check a guide there were traps everywhere lol

Really, traps? I just did what came natural...kept on letting her know I was interested, did her missions with her...had a few drinks. At that abandoned house I thought for sure it was gonna go down, but she declined and I had to just kinda be okay with that, because she's a fuckin tease and a half. I had a sense if I said the wrong thing it would mess it up forever, but no clue what all the traps were.

 

[MetalRain]

Yup, handled it very similar way. I do think V is more of a lone wolf anyway, too fucked up for relationships.

 

[Fredrik]

Really, traps? I just did what came natural...kept on letting her know I was interested, did her missions with her...had a few drinks. At that abandoned house I thought for sure it was gonna go down, but she declined and I had to just kinda be okay with that, because she's a fuckin tease and a half. I had a sense if I said the wrong thing it would mess it up forever, but no clue what all the traps were.

Maybe I’m just too used to Mass Effect and AC.
- Wanna shag?
- Sure let’s go!

 

[nowhat]

Maybe I’m just too used to Mass Effect and AC.
- Wanna shag?
- Sure let’s go!

I think when it comes to romances nothing beats Saint's Row 4:



(skip to 3:15 for the best one)

 

[Vagswarm]

Maybe I’m just too used to Mass Effect and AC.
- Wanna shag?
- Sure let’s go!

Totally the same. I was kind of disappointed when I couldn't just go around banging everyone, lol. When Judy denied, I was taken back.

 

[Fredrik]

Totally the same. I was kind of disappointed when I couldn't just go around banging everyone, lol. When Judy denied, I was taken back.

I still appreciate the complexity, just wasn’t prepared for it.
A coworker created a mix character ”for the lulz” and then both Panam and Judy went:
”Nuh-uh, it’s not happening.”.
He was not happy

 

[Trimesh]

I have to admit I didn't realize you had no chance with her as a guy and assumed (like the OP) that I had just screwed something up. I liked Panam's character more anyway, so I guess it didn't matter much in the end.

 

[raduque]

I played a male V and I didn't read a guide, but I did know that a male V couldn't romance Judy. I did try anyway during the underwater mission (I think the line you can use is something about how good she looks in the wetsuit, and Judy just shuts you down saying something like "Don't go there, V.")

Spoiler: I think I got the best ending for Judy,

where she gives you her safehouse and then texts you from all over the country as she travels.

I put 117hr into the game, but last played it in Feb - I put it down to wait for patches and performance fixes, and more content.

 

[balls of snow]

Oh yeah. I played as a female and my #1 objective from the second we met was to romance her and focus on her. Followed a guide

Amazing character btw.

Didnt need a guide to get into her pants. FemV is all about Judy. Her apartment was my second home too.

 

[SJRB]

I have to admit I didn't realize you had no chance with her as a guy and assumed (like the OP) that I had just screwed something up. I liked Panam's character more anyway, so I guess it didn't matter much in the end.

This is because Judy acts exactly the same to male and female V, so she gives off massive vibes but only blocks you when you engage as male V.

She is very flirty which leads to a romance as female V but a cockblock as male V.

The character is written pretty poorly in that regard.

 

[nowhat]

This is because Judy acts exactly the same to male and female V, so she gives off massive vibes but only blocks you when you engage as male V.

She is very flirty which leads to a romance as female V but a cockblock as male V.

The character is written pretty poorly in that regard.

Well, Panam is very flirty with a female V as well, with similar results.

Maybe, just maybe, the writing in general is not that great WRT different outcomes/player choices?

 

[existensmaximum]

Didnt need a guide to get into her pants. FemV is all about Judy. Her apartment was my second home too.

Yeah, it was obvious what kind of choices you have to make, but I didn't want to risk anything, soooo...

But in hindsight, yeah you don't really need a guide to do it.

 

[Braag]

Fem V can romance River or Judy.
Male V can romance Panam or Kerry.

I learned this after my playthrough cause I just went with Panam cause she's the best girl.

 

[SJRB]

Well, Panam is very flirty with a female V as well, with similar results.

Maybe, just maybe, the writing in general is not that great WRT different outcomes/player choices?

Well yeah, I'm not saying Panam is better, I'm just explaining why it feels weird to get stonewalled by Judy as Male V.

The romances being locked behind whatever gender you pick is dumb as fuck if the writing doesn't adapt to that. How can you make a character give off all the "romance" vibes only when push come to shove the game does an arbitrary gender value check and decides COMPUTER SAYS NO.

Worst part is Judy gets offended when you try to romance her as male V which is the exact opposite of the vibes up until that point. There's nothing organic about these relationships, they're as videogame-y as can be.

 

[nowhat]

The romances being locked behind whatever gender you pick is dumb as fuck if the writing doesn't adapt to that. How can you make a character give off all the "romance" vibes only when push come to shove the game does an arbitrary gender value check and decides COMPUTER SAYS NO.

I mean, from a human perspective it makes sense - you can't assume everyone is bi (unless it's Dragon Age 2 or Saint's Row 4 - and yes, the latter is just making fun of romances in video games). But true, the writing could definitely use more variation when it comes to the player character's gender/romance options. Is it the largest issue with the game regarding writing and player choices, not by far in my opinion.

 

[Tschumi]

Fem V can romance River or Judy.
Male V can romance Panam or Kerry.

I learned this after my playthrough cause I just went with Panam cause she's the best girl.

is river that australian u meet in the dump? i can't remember her name she just reminded me of some really annoying people i knew in melbourne rofl so i gave her 100 eurodollars (sooo cheap) and scrammed

 

[Trimesh]

It was proven by modders that the game had romances for both genders for all characters but they just cut that shit for no reason.

I think the reason is pretty obvious - they realized they way more stuff that needed doing to have any chance of getting it completed in time and went into feature triage mode. My guess is that the quests we ended up with were the ones that required the least amount of work to get into a state where you could reasonably ship. Narrowing the preconditions for something also makes it a lot easier to test.

If that was the original intent it would certainly explain why the dialog is the way it is, though.