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[DF] Direct Special: Halo Infinite Technical Preview Tested on Xbox Series X|S, PC, Xbox One X|S
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Mister Wolf
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I'm glad the One X is 30fps. Bodes well for the single player.
Great Hair
Banned
Jebron
Member
The more I reflect on the weekend with the Infinite tech preview, the more I'm just kind of "meh" on the game. I understand it's a tech preview, but absolutely nothing stood out to me as "wow this is definitely a new experience". It ran like shit on my PC and acceptable on my Series X, but beyond the performance, I feel like the whole experience was pretty bland. All the mechanics, weapons, animations, movement, etc. seem so overwhelmingly average. This was my most anticipated game of this year, and after playing the tech preview I'm indifferent on the game. All my hype and anticipation has basically evaporated.
Concern
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*looks at post history*
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Why is it besides maybe 1 or 2 people, that everyone else so "disappointed" with the game have a shitty post history? Lol
supernova8
Banned
*looks at post history*
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Why is it besides maybe 1 or 2 people, that everyone else so "disappointed" with the game have a shitty post history? Lol
Hell of a lot people are disappointed with it visually because it's a visually disappointing game as a big-budget AAA game, and then 10x more so when you consider it's meant to be Xbox's flagship title. This seems to be a not uncommon opinion regardless of post history.
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Bernd Lauert
Banned
VRR doesn't seem to work at 120 hz mode?
Riky...
Riky...
Evilms
Banned
-Considerable upgrade on the visual and audio part of the game compared to last year's presentation.
-Use of dynamic scaling for resolution.
-1800p~2160p in 60fps mode on Series X.
-1080p~1440p in 120fps mode on X Series.
-900p~1080p in 60fps mode on S Series.
-540p~720p in 120fps mode on S Series.
-540p~720p at 30fps on One S.
-1800p~2160p at 30fps One X.
-Indirect lighting on the multiplayer maps.
-The materials look much better thanks to the ssr.
-New weapon models look great.
-Ground textures are blurrier on One S, no ssr, less detail.
-60fps mode on S|X Series is almost locked.
-120fps mode on Series S|X varies between 100~120fps (even if XSS > XSX in this mode), even better in VRR.
-Frame pacing issues on One S.
-Some performance concerns, the game struggles to maintain 60fps in 4K with an RTX 3090.
-The PC version doesn't seem to fully exploit the GPU.
-Use of dynamic scaling for resolution.
-1800p~2160p in 60fps mode on Series X.
-1080p~1440p in 120fps mode on X Series.
-900p~1080p in 60fps mode on S Series.
-540p~720p in 120fps mode on S Series.
-540p~720p at 30fps on One S.
-1800p~2160p at 30fps One X.
-Indirect lighting on the multiplayer maps.
-The materials look much better thanks to the ssr.
-New weapon models look great.
-Ground textures are blurrier on One S, no ssr, less detail.
-60fps mode on S|X Series is almost locked.
-120fps mode on Series S|X varies between 100~120fps (even if XSS > XSX in this mode), even better in VRR.
-Frame pacing issues on One S.
-Some performance concerns, the game struggles to maintain 60fps in 4K with an RTX 3090.
-The PC version doesn't seem to fully exploit the GPU.
CuteFaceJay
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Same I hope they give that option. But like they said possible CPU limitation. The thing is pretty much running FX CPU from 2012.
With your own post history you should be embarassed to look into someone's else.*looks at post history*
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Why is it besides maybe 1 or 2 people, that everyone else so "disappointed" with the game have a shitty post history? Lol
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
yup, like DF says…this is shaping up to being something special. If this launches this year it should be huge!
Lucky8BB
Banned
900p-1080p 60fps on XSS is really impressive considering how demanding this game is on PC. I would have to upgrade literally everything on my PC just to play this game at 60fps 1080p, and here XSS is delivering stunning results for just 300$. There's also 120fps mode available on XSS, and although some people say resolutions is too low (540p-720p) I think picture quality should still look good on small FULLHD TV's, and especially considering they are using temporal reconstruction. On my 32 inch Sony LCD even PS2 games at 480p looks awesome, not to mention 540-720p reconstructed to 1080p.
akaFullmetal
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Surprised XSX isn't a locked 4k res during 60fps? I mean it is a cross gen game, I would think it wouldn't need that much for dynamic rez. Glad to hear the fps is locked at least.
It is only the beta though, hopefully some more optimization clears things up when the game releases.
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The spartan chatter? You can disable it.
DenchDeckard
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Dynamic res is only there for if something happens that strains the engine so it needs a brief drop. It's the best solution possible to keep a locked 60fps. It's going to look so crisp. I can't wait.
Mr.ODST
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Its all the same sony bellends who voted E on the other thread but they actually never even played the game.*looks at post history*
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Why is it besides maybe 1 or 2 people, that everyone else so "disappointed" with the game have a shitty post history? Lol
Riky
$MSFT
"there are clear signs of substantial improvements in terms of material response and lighting - key reasons why the game's first showing in real-time looked rather flat. Just the improvement in lighting, shadowing and materials on the view weapon is significant, hinting that the time spent on the game since its delay has been well spent. Of course we should expect some technical issues with early code but ultimately, we can chalk this up as a highly promising, successful and well-received hands-on gameplay debut. Halo Infinite looks to be back on track and we can't wait to see more."
From the Eurogamer write up.
From the Eurogamer write up.
Bernd Lauert
Banned
It's not a locked 4K60 on an RTX 3090. So yeah, it needs quite a bit of optimization until release.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
I had no idea this was only 30 fps on last gen consoles. I thought it was 60 fps like Halo 5. This makes the underwhelming visuals all the more puzzling.
Silent Viper
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Visually its significant upgrade over Halo 5 visually. MP in tech preview looks much better than Halo 5 sp. There are screenshots to prove it or if you have played both recently which i have then you can easily tell lighting, textures n all much better.
Last gen consoles are after thought now, they are releasing on last gen consoles just to maximize profit and to have larger install base but everyone knows real experience is on nextgen consoles and PC.
Also if you go and see Halo 5 DF analysis then you will notice significant compromises were made to achieve 60fps on Xbox one with Halo 5.
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GHG
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Yep it looks better than I thought it would. Hats off to them, they've made some good improvements and the game has come a long way in comparison to what was shown last year.
Bernd Lauert
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It's no Splitgate, that's for sure.
Deputy Moonman
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What you have to understand is that the bland experience you describe, mainly because it's nothing new per say, is what a lot of Halo fans have been wanting for a long time. The last widely accepted Halo game for its gameplay was Halo 3. Reach introduced bloom and a change in game physics that made players feel less floaty/more weighty and its reception was very divided. In Halo 4, I'd argue the physics and gun mechanics were superb, but marred by other game design choices. Halo 5 was fun but a completely different experience when it comes to Halo.
If Halo 3 released in 2007, that means players have been wanting something more akin to what we saw in the beta for just under 15 years. You call it bland, but I imagine a lot of halo fans would call it a welcome return to Halo gameplay. And it's not what I would call classic Halo, but it's hopefully/possibly a big step in the right direction.
DenchDeckard
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Just ignore it mate. Don't risk a potential ban over saying stuff like this. There's great games coming out this year and halo looks like it could end up being one of the strongest!
With a name like yours just enjoy that. ODST is still one of my absolute favourite halo experiences.
I still want a battle royal mode with odst drop pods!
MrS
Banned
same g. ascent look good too.
Armorian
Banned
SSR? Holy shit, 2010 feature (Crysis 2)
One S version... LOL
Current PC performance is trash, I wonder how much it will improve
Exanthus
Banned
I'm pretty sure before last year's demo, they were targeting 60fps on last gen too... That probably changed after the knock back
JackMcGunns
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Sounds about right, the experience was supposed to be the same, but with their own fanbase saying F*** Xbox One, I guess they said, Ok then lol
twilo99
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That right there is the sweet spot for this game.. and for any FPS game running on the x for that matter
Stuart360
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Are you on about the 120fps mode?, John said in the video that its basically locked at 60fps, barring very rare single digit drops.
Leyasu
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VRR doesn't seem to work at 120 hz mode?
Riky...
My tvs hz when displayed was up and down when playing this. But with nothing visible on the screen.
Although, I was getting some ghosting on the straight lines in the architecture so that could have been becaude of it?!
Did you watch the video? It very rarely hits 540p. The image is usually 900p-720p upscaled and still looks very clean in motion. Watch the Series S footage.. it looks fine. It's running at 120 fps and it's a technical preview. It'll probably run better closer to launch.
There's always the 60 fps mode for higher resolution.
John even said he played on Series S at 120hz the most because it was the most stable at the highest framerate and it looks good. It drops during heated moments but you're so engrossed it's not like you're ever going to notice.
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Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Like Destiny MP with actual servers.
It's just a technical preview. Ask again at release.
VRR would negate a lot of the smaller dips anyway so if you really wanted to be "competitive" on console you'd still want the XSX and a compatible TV/monitor I think
grfunkulus
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Edit: that's not what the video showed about the PC settings...it's perfectly capable of playing at 4k 60 ultra with an external frame rate cap or vsync. It has the Mario kart Wii u problem. That's all. And ultra settings in general are stupid. Don't use them and 4k120 should be possible on the 3090 (with some further optimization maybe--see below for 3080 so I can only assume it's possible)
What settings were used for 4k60fps? You can get a perfectly acceptable image quality (medium ish settings) at 4k on a 3080 averaging around 100fps at 4k.
I think there are optimization issues, and for sure with different builds moreso than others. But there were some tweaks, like setting min and max frame rate to 120fps, that drastically improved my fps at times.
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LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
With the kind of PC I have, I went ahead and got a Series S to play split screen with the kids.
I'm subbing to Game pass for now unless someone tells me where I can get it super cheap.
Also, the surround sound doesn't work and my receiver won't accept the signal.
But I'm good lol
I'm subbing to Game pass for now unless someone tells me where I can get it super cheap.
Also, the surround sound doesn't work and my receiver won't accept the signal.
But I'm good lol
Multiplayer will be f2p, no gold sub needed. Halo infinite retail won't be found for cheap anywhere really until release where you can probably get "10%" off by using Microsoft Rewards with a punch card. Or black Friday idk. It'll just be $60 but game pass will also give you a discount
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
That's good to know but at least it will be a Game pass game so I'll play the campaign as well.