Putonahappyface
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Could a particular graphic mode affect the loading scenes?
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DF: Hogwarts Legacy - DF Tech Review - PS5 vs Xbox Series X/S - 21 Mode Variations Tested
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DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
The magics back!
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
well that's no good, we didn't need another CDPR in the world lol
Lysandros
Member
Not really. It's clocked ~3% higher but it has to do more heavy lifting on I/O processing and API front. Also those CPUs are not 100% identical in architecture (not only the FPUs). PS5's CPU has lower interconnect latencies according to the machine's lead software engineer Matt Hargett.Isn’t the CPU in XSX faster?
Either way I’m sotired of badly optimized games at this point. And while patching stuff is great it usually means I’ve already finished the game once it’s in a good state. Maybe I should just stop playing games day 1 and wait for late Steam sales or Gamepass/PS+ releases instead.
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Urban
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i play on performance mode and its installed on the original ps5 ssd
M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
Way bigger overhead due to Direct X. I've talked about it here in lengths during last 2-3 years.Isn’t the CPU in XSX faster?
Either way I’m so
rickybooby87
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ShadyAcshuns
Member
A pure load of shit you're spouting. I'm almost finished with the campaign on series X and it's been almost flawless.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Which larger title has missing RT features ?
Dr. Samuel Hayden
Member
Had to click on the vid to do that, thereby boosting their numbers and further amplifying the game itself.
Good job, dumbfucks.
Fredrik
Member
Ah yeah that could be it then I guess. Plus PS5 have specific audio hardware that XSX lacks, could mean advanced audio steal some resources sometimes needed elsewhere.
I had a long stretch in Hogwarts where it looked like it ran in the 40s for no apparent reason on Xbox, nothing special going on at all. Awhile later some ghosts flew about argueing. Maybe some memory leak or assets loading issue?
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Lysandros
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Not sure if sarcasm but just to remind, he ended by being also wrong on that one even on frequency front, XSS CPU is clocked at 200 Mhz lower compared to XSX, so it's 3.4 Ghz.
Well yeah the Series S has a good CPU, that's why it's an emulation beast, but Microsoft took the shortsighted route and gimped HEAVILY on the RAM with it being both slower AND nearly halved. They should've stuck with something like 12GB and upped the speed to offset the calculations need for ray tracing and such.
solidus12
Member
I was obviously joking. I still remember the constant fud the ps5 was getting prior to its release. Glad things turned out well for the system.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
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Fredrik
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I wish I had your Xbox, I’ve only been inside Hogwarts and I’ve seen dips all over the place, at one point for like a minute, looked really bad.
I have no VRR TV though so any stutter masked by that won’t help me.
diffusionx
Gold Member
Speaking for myself, I criticized DF for being dead silent and acting like possibly the biggest selling game of 2023 did not exist at all. It was totally out of ordinary from how they usually cover games, especially big AAA ones. This really seems like Leadbetter stepped up and just did what they had to do, possibly getting into it with EG cucks and his own staff over it.
also another one etc
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Grildon Tundy
Gold Member
"Oh no, we don't have time to optimize both versions. Which one should we focus on: the one that helped pay us to get this game made or the other one?!?!"
MasterCornholio
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ShadyAcshuns
Member
My tv does have VRR, and I'm playing fidelity mode with no rt. Only issues I've noticed so far in my 30ish hours of playtime: I had one crash, and I was so pissed because I hadn't manually saved in like two hours, but luckily the autosave picked up right where I was cut off, and the other instance is with Fig in his office. He has some weird clipping stuff going on in there.
Not saying the PS5 version can't be better or anything, just that I've had a very smooth experience in my playthrough.
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solidus12
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So this explains why the PS5 has been outperforming or matching the Series X…I mean, you're not far off.
Below image via DF.
Spyxos
Gold Member
I swear i feel more input delay with fidelity + Rt, but he didn't mention it so i could just imagine things.
rickybooby87
Member
- Hogwarts Legacy
- No RT reflections in the Medium
- Fortnite (gimped/software implementation)
- DMC5 SE
- COD: Cold War
- F122
- Ghostrunner
- Chernobylite
A couple of them I remembered, others I had to look up. But, it seems to be a compromise at best if/when enabled. It's not surprising when looking at specs, especially when some games like Metro Exodus bottom out on the resolution scale with RT enabled on the Series S.
Art The Clown
Banned
balanced is just awesome IMO. I tried all of them and balanced is just so smooth on my CX. About 3/4 done and may try hrr performance.
skneogaf
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Big props to Richard for doing this, I was one that tweeted them to highlight the fact that it's a very popular video game that needs coverage and just because the author has an opinion that isn't there's doesn't mean it should not be covered.
The game has the most graphic options I've seen on consoles so is a great way to compare them all, it does seem ps5 was lead development as xbox versions need some work.
The game has the most graphic options I've seen on consoles so is a great way to compare them all, it does seem ps5 was lead development as xbox versions need some work.
ByWatterson
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Stunningly transphobic. Unsubscribed, locked, banned, reported to police for suspected accessory to genocide.
The Inventor
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Do you mind telling why it would be something to expect ?
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Pedro Motta
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Maybe a dedicated hardware IO controller that frees a lot of the cpu during the decompressing/streaming data?
SLB1904
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Watch cerny presentation. He literally go in depth why he chose snartshift ting
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3liteDragon
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I’m playing on fidelity RT on PS5 & it’s very stable, but there’s still a lot of graphical pop-in issues with the game. Hope that’s fixed soon.
Jaybe
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I’ve been satisfied with performance w/o VRR mode but haven’t gone to Hogsmeade yet. If it drops a lot I may do performance with VRR. Fidelity w/o ray tracing seemed very stable on Xbox Series X at 30 fps as well based on DF’s analysis.
Rockondevil
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I've been playing Fidelity + RT on my Series X with uncapped framerate and it's been generally great. There's the odd time I notice some frame drops but not that common to be annoying.
GHG
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Mr Ali Salehi was right:
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/ali-...-interview-up-tweets-article-removed.1535138/
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Directx has a Cpu overhead? That could explain this mess because the game is definitely cpu bound on PC.
Why does it only affect some dx games? Rt caused all kinds of issues in this game and in Gotham knights on my PC. My cpu usage in this game is a pathetic 15-20%. I also have an 8 core 16 thread cpu albeit with clocks that can hit 5 ghz. There is no way the cpu is being maxed out here. Even on consoles.
I just hope they go back to the drawing board and multi thread some of these processes.
dirtyarcade
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Ended up picking this up on SX over PS5 simply for quick resume. I’m about 27 hours in all on fidelity mode. There’s definitely some occasional stuttering that’ll last about a second here and there when I’m sprinting through the school. To be honest I feel like it’s actually become more frequent since the last patch as I’ve been playing since the 7th and don’t recall it doing that as much before a couple days ago. All that said, the stuttering issue is still infrequent enough that it’s yet to tarnish my enjoyment of the game. I don’t regret going Xbox on this one because as expected, Quick resume has been awesome and really shines for single player games like this. Overall this game looks incredible to me and runs well enough to be an non-issue for me. I say that as someone that got a refund for CP2077.
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M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
For certain operation it has, think about it like a Garbage collected language with JIT compiler vs something like C, RUST, etc. It basically has it's own runtime, which controls the whole flow. Thus stuff takes longer because there is added logic.
Direct X enabled PC gaming, prior to that, you had to have specific HW to play the game, so it was revolutionary.
With DX 12, you can do your own routines, which gets pre-compiled on first run of the game (not shaders, these are functions, for something like loading stuff to memory, physics, low-level stuff), problem with that is that, nobody is doing that. Pretty much only game which supports dx 12 "right way" often has Vulkan back-end as well, because non-graphical stuff is the same and code, with some minor alteration could be used for both APIs. There are sadly, sort of DX11 > DX12 wrapper, if you will. You can take game on DX11, run it through the tool and then you can on top of it, enabled things like RT. *cough witcher next-gen*
However the with GPU operation, they are still highly abstracted and not many people actually know what is happening there. But it has cool features, like async shader compilation and a lot of compute stuff, which was insanely hard to do prior to DX12 ultimate, it was selling point of consoles (that supercharged x86 we've been told), in practice, running code which has GPU and CPU portion of it inside is a nightmare, even if it works well a lot of the times your are wasting cycles and lastly AMD is behind it, thus the software sucked. Given what CPUs we have now in consoles, it was clearly a dead end.
Connxtion
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Xbox series X:
Only issues I have had in over 20h of playing in Balanced mode is the odd stutter when running about in Hogwarts. I just put it down to loading assets
but FPS has been solid and never felt like it dipped.
The other issue, is mission not restarting it lets me run about with enemies just standing about need to quit and reload to fix it. I suspect it due to sleep mode of the XBSX
Only issues I have had in over 20h of playing in Balanced mode is the odd stutter when running about in Hogwarts. I just put it down to loading assets
but FPS has been solid and never felt like it dipped. The other issue, is mission not restarting it lets me run about with enemies just standing about
need to quit and reload to fix it. I suspect it due to sleep mode of the XBSX