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It's technically a remaster, not a remake.
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Diablo 2 Resurrected - Early Access Beta August 13th, Open Beta August 20th
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rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Nah. It's a remake.
Remaster is resolution, fps etc.
Remake is demon's souls
Reboot is reimagining
nightmare-slain
Member
it's a remaster.
it's pretty much the same game that came out 2 decades ago.
"The remaster's design philosophy required the game to be identical to what legacy players remembered. While the developers did not make even minor changes to core gameplay, they upgraded the game's visuals, modeling its remastered graphics on art from the original game. The remaster includes some small usability changes like the Shared Stash and automatic gold pickup. Some new conveniences, like the latter, can be toggled to the user's playstyle preference.[2]
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I collect VHS tapes
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BadBurger
Is 'That Pure Potato'
I was sure this was day 1 for me but after a few hours, However as a series X player Im not so sure. I hate the inventory system to death. There's no way I'm gonna be managing individual potions like that. The graphics are very detailed and really digging the style, BUT I find my eyes are getting strained playing it. I can't help but feel this was designed to be played on a monitor close up. The game play itself felt kind of clunky. I can tell this was not designed around a controller. The drops are a mess and that font
Adjusting the brightness might help with the eye strain?
And yea I agree, after having played Diablo 3 on a console (PS4) I am surprised they didn't put more work into the inventory system for console players. It's one thing to try to retain certain feels from the original, but IMO when remastering a dev should focus on fixing old QoL issues first, presentation second. *shrug*
A remaster of a twenty year old game (Edit: as others have pointed out, perhaps this rises to the case of a remake but I am not so sure...). I think it's fine to point out mechanical issues with a remaster. I mean, fixing old design issues is part of the entire point of remastering something.
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Dirk Benedict
Gold Member
Stopped playing after soloing as a Javazon. I'm going to have so much fun with this. It's pathetic. Because it's technically older than 1/3 of the games I've played. and, boy, have I played A LOT.
I collect VHS tapes
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You and me both. I just want the damn game to come out already.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
I still don't agree.
Remaster is when you re master your current assets. Like scan old movie tape in 8k.
This is clearly a remake (not a reboot) as it's using all new assets
I collect VHS tapes
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go to bed rofif
The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
Both single player and multiplayer works the same way.
Games like torchlight etc doesn't change map but d2r did.
I collect VHS tapes
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I don't think that's correct. I did a quick google search, you can find tons of old threads asking how to re-roll the map in single player.
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Map reset for SINGLE PLAYER
Could we please have an option to reset the single-player map? Let it works the same way as in online mode. The single-player needs to “save and quit” the current game and when restarting a new game it can either load the old map or create a new map.
us.forums.blizzard.com
those were the first 2 to pop up. this also matches my memory.
cliff notes: it resets if you change difficulty
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rofif
Can’t Git Gud
I just woke up. I am angry just after waking up. Fuck me
I collect VHS tapes
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just play some d2r broI just woke up. I am angry just after waking up. Fuck me
Warablo
Member
I don't think they changed the game enough to classify as a remake, but in my mind a remake is basically a reimagining. Like if it was a remake you wouldn't be able to change the graphic style on the fly like you can in this.
I agree, I just want the game to come out, its all I think about. I think I have a problem.
I agree, I just want the game to come out, its all I think about. I think I have a problem.
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I collect VHS tapes
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I keep catching myself farming in the goddamn beta. I ask myself wtf am I doing and I turn off the game.
couple hours later in back on farming...
I also think I have a problem.
Hellmaker
Member
I love melee and hate casters so no go
Inviusx
Member
Now that I'm tomb farming the lack of lobbies on console is immediately apparent and disastrous.
They really need to remedy this but sadly I feel like they are going to hit us with the "we looked into this option but due to technical limitations we won't be bringing lobbies to console".
They really need to remedy this but sadly I feel like they are going to hit us with the "we looked into this option but due to technical limitations we won't be bringing lobbies to console".
I collect VHS tapes
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They are getting tons of backlash for the lack of lobbies so hopefully they listen. If they don’t, people will have to choose certain quests as code for what they want to do. Like join act 1 Cain quest for Baal runs, etc.
I’ll also probably start relying on the discord to find groups if it isn’t added.
but yeah I’m hoping it changes.
Inviusx
Member
I'm doing Act 2 final quest for Tomb runs but not really finding any groups larger than 1 other person. Unsure if this is a technical issue with the beta or if people aren't sure how the match making works.
Warablo
Member
No idea why cross progression is a thing but cross play isn't. Certainly wouldn't be fair for loot in pub games, but a healthy population would be nice.
Usually happens in doorways or tight gaps in a wall.
Usually happens in doorways or tight gaps in a wall.
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I collect VHS tapes
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It has to be a technical issue. I decided to test it and attempted to match make at around 7pm today for the beginning of act 1. It took a while to actually JOIN an existing game and not CREATE a new game.
there is no way there weren’t available games to join Friday night of the open beta.
but who knows, maybe people don’t know how to use it correctly. I played the beta for like 40 hours before I found out you could join pvp matches.
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I collect VHS tapes
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Server issue. Should be fixed given the purpose of the beta.
I believe they said they aren’t ruling it out for the future? Overwatch took forever to get cross play but it finally did.
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Nozz-A-La
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I hate to think how many hours I have in the original Diablo 2, and have been cautiously excited for this game, but I absolutely won’t be buying it unless they add lobbies to consoles. End game would be far too frustrating without them and it boggles my mind why they thought it’d be okay to not have them.
winjer
Gold Member
I played it for a while and I'm impressed by what they achieved.
It really looks and feels like Diablo 2, but updated. This is probably the best remake, since the Spyro Trilogy.
The graphics look great, but still faithful to the original. The music is the same, but sounds much better.
And the gameplay is exactly what I expected. I even tried to play with a X360 controller and it works well.
But after a couple of hours, I was bored. Maybe because I'm older, maybe because my taste in games have changed a bit, maybe because I'm at the start and still using the basic abilities.
But the game feels so grinding.
I might try to play it again and push a bit further.....
It really looks and feels like Diablo 2, but updated. This is probably the best remake, since the Spyro Trilogy.
The graphics look great, but still faithful to the original. The music is the same, but sounds much better.
And the gameplay is exactly what I expected. I even tried to play with a X360 controller and it works well.
But after a couple of hours, I was bored. Maybe because I'm older, maybe because my taste in games have changed a bit, maybe because I'm at the start and still using the basic abilities.
But the game feels so grinding.
I might try to play it again and push a bit further.....
Calverz
Member
Remember Xbox had the looking for group feature on the dash.
Bernd Lauert
Banned
Game looks like how I falsely remember D2 as a kid. Turning on legacy mode really blew my mind, my eyes almost started bleeding, not only because of the two and half pixels per object, but also because the frame rate looked choppy as fuck.
cormack12
Gold Member
How do you switch on the xbox. Been looking for the toggle. Tried the share button like halo: ce
Bernd Lauert
Banned
LT + view button.
nightmare-slain
Member
disagree all you want but doesn't make you right.
it's a remaster whether you agree or not.
Panajev2001a
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Fair, but back then you were watching it on 21’’ or less CRT monitors with much lower native resolutions and much much better scaling.
One day we will get ML powered proper CRT filters/like upscaling and uprezzing (like having a 4K CRT and improved assets).
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
You are simply wrong.
If it was a remaster, they would've RE MASTERED old assets. They made all new assets, sounds and graphics.
Clear signs of remake.
It is ok to be wrong but it's plain stupid to argue with facts.
oh btw - I don't give a crap about diablo 2. I never much liked it and just looked at 10 seconds of resurrected gameplay.
Lanrutcon
Member
Ok. Pretty sure that means no-one gives a crap about your opinion.
makaveli60
Member
Yesterday I played this game for the first time ever. It was cool, felt nostalgic despite never having played it. Completed the first quest then took the route to the right after you come out of the starting place and some 10 amazons or something butchered me. I guess I shouldn’t have gone there yet. But I stopped playing as progress won’t carry over to the full game unfortunately and I don’t want to waste time when I will have to start again anyway.
Lanrutcon
Member
Ah, it's a special encounter that only spawns if the game detects a chad at the keyboard. By being extremely manly and awesome, the game felt it had no choice but to send a harem of attack women at you. Men like us have to play hard mode, I'm afraid. See you in the release version.
cormack12
Gold Member
I'm finding swarms a pain in the ass. And the environment itself like gravestones and puddles also a bastard to navigate
Lanrutcon
Member
So...you been to act 2 yet it?
omegasc
Member
D3 was not easy on release day. Champions and Elites were a big deal before - some affixes were hell. It got easy because people complained.
cormack12
Gold Member
Nah, I don't wanna burn out so I'm just trying out the classes in act I at the moment. Unlocking a few skills etc. I've been told necromancer struggles with act ii though for a specific reason lol
eh, it was a joke compared to d2 still.
though, to be fair, the version of d2 that this is based off is quite a bit harder than it was on original release/basically up until 1.10. especially once you get to Hell where resists legit become a pain in the ass.
depends on your build and some luck with items though, a zealot for example can pretty mindlessly go through this beta with ease.
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Rean no Kiseki
Banned
Playing on PS5 and the lag is very annoying! It's making everything unbearable especially the item management which they should've revamped for controllers since it's still favors mouse users.
On the plus side i was enjoying a helluva lot better than when i tried playing it on my laptop 4 years ago and getting the full Diablo 3 collection is a bouns was fantastic as i'm in love with playing the Necromancer right now.
On the plus side i was enjoying a helluva lot better than when i tried playing it on my laptop 4 years ago and getting the full Diablo 3 collection is a bouns was fantastic as i'm in love with playing the Necromancer right now.
MrFunSocks
Banned
Played this on Xbox series x today.
The controls in the menus, and the inventory system just does not work with a controller. Not being able to have your inventory open while being able to run around will make the challenging sections and difficulty levels of this game much much harder. Looting is hard, comparing loot is hard, targeting enemies is hard. The graphics and feel are really nice, still feels like the original. But after playing Diablo 3 this is a hard pill to swallow unfortunately.
Will probably pick it up on pc though.
The controls in the menus, and the inventory system just does not work with a controller. Not being able to have your inventory open while being able to run around will make the challenging sections and difficulty levels of this game much much harder. Looting is hard, comparing loot is hard, targeting enemies is hard. The graphics and feel are really nice, still feels like the original. But after playing Diablo 3 this is a hard pill to swallow unfortunately.
Will probably pick it up on pc though.
nightmare-slain
Member
your logic is fucked up. in order to remaster old assets they'd need to make all new assets...right?
you said a remaster is improved resolution/fps. it also includes new models/textures. a remake is remaking the game. if you actually bothered to play the beta you'd see that the original game is still there and you can toggle between it and new visuals with the press of a button. so it's basically the same game but with a new visual layer over it. so it's a remaster.
anyway, we can argue all the live long day but if you take a look at the official diablo 2 site you can see that Blizzard (y'know the studio that made it) call it a remaster.
"Diablo® II: Resurrected™ is a remastered version of the quintessential action RPG Diablo® II."
"Remastered graphics—monsters, heroes, items, spells, all resurrected."
"Classic gameplay—the same Diablo II you know and love, preserved."
Diablo II: Resurrected
Evil is resurrected in the timeless action RPG classic Diablo II, and its acclaimed expansion Diablo II: Lord of Destruction, now remastered and upgraded.
diablo2.blizzard.com
so...case closed. you're wrong. enjoy your day.
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