baphomet
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Strange, that isn't how it was advertised.
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Digital Foundry: Bright Memory Infinite - DF Tech Review - PS5 vs Xbox Series X/S vs Nintendo Switch!
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Strange, that isn't how it was advertised.
LordOfChaos
Member
The Switch really badly needs a chip upgrade. They'll milk it as long as you buy it though.
oldergamer
Member
It was never exclusive to Xbox. Just because they announced it there first, doesn't mean its exclusive. In fact MS would have said it was exclusive.A once exclusive indie game runs better on the Series X.
The water is distracting without RT on.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Yes.
Bright Memory Infinite is basically a remake of Bright Memory with a lot more content.
Bright Memory was an Xbox Series launch title.
Bernd Lauert
Banned
You complain about console wars, yet a handful of you are the frontrunners.
"Shit, PS5 got trashed in this one, let's quickly pivot to talking about the Series S."
baphomet
Member
"Shit, PS5 got trashed in this one, let's quickly pivot to talking about the Series S."
This game isnt good on PC, which shits on all these consoles.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
You complain about console wars, yet a handful of you are the frontrunners.
You know how it goes."Shit, PS5 got trashed in this one, let's quickly pivot to talking about the Series S."
Bernd Lauert
Banned
Idk whether it's good, but Steam boys seem to love it (see page 1).
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
anyone know if the Xbox version also gets a free upgrade if you own the original Bright Memory or is that just for PC ?
ANIMAL1975
Member
Yes mate, the one man studio indy dev next gen is finally here
Leyasu
Banned
So why bring up the series S?
baphomet
Member
Most people on Steam got the game for free by buying the previous "game" for $5. If you actually looked at the reviews you'd see it's a lot of "for an indie", "graphical showcase", "amazing graphics", etc.
I'd probably even recommend it on Steam if you just want something to show off graphics for cheap.
Doesn't mean I'd recommend it as a game.
twilo99
Member
Sounds like the perfect game for gamepass
I brought it up because this dev did a good job with the series S overall
I brought it up because this dev did a good job with the series S overall
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Bernd Lauert
Banned
Huh, so basically if you have a VRR TV, just turn v-sync off and enjoy mostly triple digit fps at 4K? Big if true.
DaGwaphics
Member
Looks like you get a 20% discount on Series.
clampzyn
Member
Unfortunately it runs 60hz only but the fps is up to 4k native @ 120fps for lower input lag, this is true I tested it myself but camera panning feels 60hz but the input lag is much lower. You won't see screen tearing if you have VRR or a Freesync display which is great.
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Sosokrates
Report me if I continue to console war
The switch is next gen yall
Oh, and
Oh, and
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Bernd Lauert
Banned
UE4
The switch version is quite a tour de force, but while decent enough to be playable, mobile tech has evolved a lot since 2016-17 and I'm starting to feel that a new console is needed. Who knows, maybe in 2023...
Hopefully 2024.
The longer they wait, the better the chance that it’s pretty powerful.
If we can get a Switch 2 that’s somewhat more powerful than the Deck, you’d be assured of next gen ports for the entire generation.
baphomet
Member
That isn't how that works.
Mr Moose
Member
I'm not the only one who thought so.
https://www.gameinformer.com/2021/0...ooks-as-sharp-as-ever-in-new-gameplay-trailer
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baphomet
Member
You think turning vsync off still has the game display 60fps, but run at 120fps for reduced input lag?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Everyone thought it was an exclusive at the reveal. People are just backpedaling now. We can always hop into the reveal thread, live show thread, and even the bumped "new platforms added" well after the show thread.
That "next gen" engine.
baphomet
Member
He literally asked if you had a VRR TV and turned off vsync if you'd be playing 4k/100+ fps, which yes, you absolutely will be.
You replied with, no unfortunately it runs at 60hz only etc.
DarkMage619
$MSFT
MS stated numerous times the XSS was a lower end console focused more on 1440p. They said it would have the same hardware feature set as the XSX and it would play the same games. They never promised all games would have raytracing or would run with the same graphical features as XSX. Hell the XSX doesn't always have raytracing when PC versions of the same games do. Customers seem to like the system just fine.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Not this game. It looks good, but not that good.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Infinite added its own, completely separate short campaign, that added a new move, new enemies, etc. On PC it was given away for free for everyone who bought Bright Memory.
I don’t think anything we redone in the original release, but now you have me thinking I should go back and check.
baphomet
Member
Dude, it's literally what they sold the console on.
From Microsoft's now privated, but still available elsewhere Series S Deep Dive.
“This means that Xbox Series S delivers the same incredible next-generation experience and features as Series X — just at a reduced rendering resolution.”
Neo_game
Member
This game got lot of attention when it was first shown, I think 1 Chinese dev made that early access on steam. Not sure how many are working on it since they have ported this game even on switch. Hopefully this means that iron monkey game made by some other Chinese indie dev also get released sooner or later.
Lucifers Beard
Member
Not really, the Dragon Quest XI demo is 10 hours lol.
Bernd Lauert
Banned
Tell us the features (aside from "reduced rendering resolution") the XSX has and the XSS doesn't. Pro tip: you can't.
baphomet
Member
You just ignoring the part the matters?
Because I can list plenty of games that don't offer the same next generation experience as the Series X, even with a reduced resolution.
Snake29
RSI Employee of the Year
He did the port later during development so it was exclusive and not in development for the PS5. Like the tweet already said, XSX had prio and we are seeing it back in the performance.
Riky
$MSFT
Microsoft's view of next generation features is the likes of Quick Resume and the VA. There is no mandate to third parties to fulfill what the Series S was designed to do, they can reduce any graphical features they see fit as long as the gameplay is intact.
Since your save works across consoles that's the case.
Played on both Series consoles and the Series S version runs really well, Series X is the best easily but that's what 12tflops gets you.
Since your save works across consoles that's the case.
Played on both Series consoles and the Series S version runs really well, Series X is the best easily but that's what 12tflops gets you.
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Tarnpanzer
Member
Reminds me of "every Xbox 360 game has to have 4xMSAA to get certification from Microsoft" -> same unrealistic expectations.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Runs on Switch and HDD'S so no.
playsaves3
Member
Sorry if this message is a bother but I’m curious about the v sync statement he mentioned when turning it off it introduced screen tearing and uncaps the framerate so question 1 does vrr fix the screen tearing and 2 can you uncap the rt mode to 120 with the v sync removed?
DaGwaphics
Member
VRR should always eliminate tearing within the range supported by the display if it is working correctly.
AetherZX
Member
Yep, RT is ultimately just a visual effect. The objective of the Series S is to run the same games, not run the same games at the same settings and somehow only have to worry about dialing back resolution. Not happening.
DarkMage619
$MSFT
What about that isn't true? Next gen experience is all about Quick Resume, SSD load times, 60 FPS and it having the same library as the $200 more expensive sibling. The main difference is the resolution because you can't name one game the XSX has the XSS can't play. It's just a certain segment of people that intentionally misrepresent what the MS clearly stated.
And this is a person who was clearly paying attention. Thank you. People claiming that MS stated the XSS would run games exactly like the XSX are lying plain and simple.
No company has EVER promised all graphical effects will be present on every game on their platform. Really odd people want to hold that standard to a budget console of all things.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Neither of those preclude it from being a quote unquote next gen experience.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Yes they do.
It's automatically eliminated from the current gen if it has to be made to also run on older gen hardware.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Again, that is not true. You're confusing something else with scalability.
Godfall was a launch PS5 game that the developers swore was only possible on next gen, and at the time of its launch it *was* one of the few games that showed off the new consoles well, but that game later got a PS4 port and further still got a port to the even weaker Xbox One.
Not to mention other examples like Horizon, God of War, GT7 which have bespoke next gen versions but also have last gen versions, which don't prevent them from being actual next-gen experiences.
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