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[the_master]

The arrogance...

 

[Twinblade]

What about Pax?

 

[tomato shrub]

To see people so happy that its gone is so confusing to me. E3 was one of the rare moments throughout the year that gamers from around the world had a chance to get together to celebrate gaming like Comic Con, or the Porn convention. Like why are people so happy one of the biggest exclusive entertainment events that allow for cosplay, game demo, E3 girls, dev interviews, live game reveals and suprise trailers might be gone forever? Im convinced social media has created a hive mind of contarianism.

One one hand it's snarky contrarianism. But don't forget that half the time it's also simple fanboyism. /Muh favorite company doesn't do conferences anymore, so this must be a good thing - e3 bad.

 

[SkylineRKR]

Yeah I wouldn't put this past Keighley.

He's a sly fox. Literally using the death of E3 now to promote his own event. And I don't think his event is even that good.

 

[GymWolf]

It was a shadow of itself but it is always sad to see it cancelled.

So cringe dorito dude is the only one left doing a show?

 

[Davevil]

I don't understand all this hate... E3 before the stupid directs era was fabulous... especially in conjunction with the launch of a new console

 

[Roufianos]

Geoff taking shots at E3? His content is absolute trash, is loading the presentation with ads and shovelware really an evolution of the E3 formula? What a dick.

 

[Ozzy Onya A2Z]

 

[GamesDontSuck]

Yeah I wouldn't put this past Keighley.

He's a sly fox. Literally using the death of E3 now to promote his own event. And I don't think his event is even that good.

Thats it. Well said.

He should have just said goodbye e3 thanks for the memories or how ever he could have worded it.

He could, maybe have even plugged his fest by phrasing it that don't worry gamers, we still have.... etc. Maybe.

But that line of "realising" lacked class.

 

[Dr. Wilkinson]

Shameless plug, Geoff.

???? …It’s his own Twitter

 

[YeulEmeralda]

Everyone talked mad shit about e3 being cringe, but now here we are. We lost a real one.

I liked the cringe of the old days. Pasty drunk nerd males mansplaining videogames to clearly uninterested boothbabes.

Edit god why did videogames have to go mainstream

 

[fuck_diggity_cunt_ingdon]

If someone wants to just put the E3 logo over the cow and Geoff keighly’s face over Jim that’d be great…

 

[PC Gamer]

WEED3!!!

 

[RoadHazard]

I think it's sad, E3 used to be Christmas for gamers. So much news and cool reveals concentrated over a few days. The way it works now, with this stuff spread out over tons of smaller streams over the year, just isn't nearly as much fun.

 

[darrylgorn]

 

[TLZ]

 

[Urban]

So who did kill the E3? Was it Nintendo?

 

[TheGodfather07]

Yeah I wouldn't put this past Keighley.

He's a sly fox. Literally using the death of E3 now to promote his own event. And I don't think his event is even that good.

If he has MGS this year, then he will be redeemed!

 

[RagnarokIV]

Dude using this situation to promote his show is just so fucking tasteless

Best Dorito's Pope Tweet of the year award FUELLED BY MOUNTAIN DEW.

 

[SF Kosmo]

Long time coming, but it's the end of an era.

I have so many good memories of E3, it was really every gamer nerd's dream. Meeting my heroes like Koji Igarashi and Yuji Naka and Will Wright, the year Prince played Sony's after party, or when The Who played Harmonix's event, or sitting in the corner and talking to crazy Dennis Dyack for like an hour, or playing Mario Galaxy before anyone...

E3 was such a cool thing, but as the focus was more and more on these big stage presentations, it was only a matter of time before they realized they didn't need the convention itself.

 

[SaintALia]

I don't understand all this hate... E3 before the stupid directs era was fabulous... especially in conjunction with the launch of a new console

People have been bitching about E3 for years. I think it got multiple times worse after like PS3/360 era.

I didn't care either way, I was never gonna fly to LA to be there, and I jut wanted to see the games, which is what most wanted, game previews, and people by that point could easily just stream content and not have to contend with getting that information and content sieved through game journos. Well I guess it still gets sieved through the Game devs and pubs marketing teams, game journos and influencers who get early access and previews, but at least you get the content instantly now.

I hope more more game pubs take a page from Nintendo though, not just the 'Direct' style of content, but the Treehouse as well. Direct gameplay of games being played and interviews with the devs, NOT those bullshit staged 'gameplay demos' and stilted, cringe af talking bits, with game dev journals where we see devs 90% of the time, which is then inter cut with 10% game art and game footage.

But E3 will probably come back. Though publishers will likely see the benefit in having complete control of over who they can invite to preview, not having to pay large sums to event organisers and no fuckups live on stage overshadowing their games.

 

[tomato shrub]

Thanks for evolving E3, Geoff, by copying the same conference format, except with less exciting content, because you don't actually belong to the companies who provide the commercials - also by putting yourself in the focus, despite not having good stage presence and being overwhelmed any time someone doesn't follow your "hype this hype that world premiere" script. E3 had some fun cringe from time to time, but tbh Geoff is just irritating, sorry.

I guess the thing that's new is putting his brand logo on some mid digital showcase two months later, which would have happened anyway.

 

[Arsic]

Here is the thing if publishers or developers have nothing to show then we still get nothing regardless if was in E3 or summer games fes or any other other showcase

To developers and publishers it less stressful to decided their own time and show off their games when they are ready to show instead of wasting time scrambling something to show for E3 or other showcases.

Not how it worked in the past. Publishers and devs would save their announcements for E3 because of how the marketing machine worked then.

If everyone was doing E3, then folks would be holding their cards for there.

 

[Ownage]

If the industry wants to return to the glory days, they need to quit pushing DEI and get back to the Duke Nukem mentality.

 

[AV]

So who did kill the E3? Was it Nintendo?

The ESA.

 

[Nigel]

Why’s he cancelled? Did he say something problematic?

 

[OmegaSupreme]

Oh well. No booth babes anyway. Fuck em lol.

 

[Magusx]

really shame. Watching old E3 was always so much fun.

 

[Pagusas]

I hope all of you that followed that stupid trend on hating the E3 are happy.

Such a loss

Cool victim blaming bro, none of us made E3 suck, the show runners did. People wanted E3 to adapt and find ways to stay awesome and relevant, it was on them to achieve that. They put the wrong people in charge who made bad choices and ran the thing into the ground.

 

[Hitchyhero]

E3 got ripped on a lot on these forums over the last few. I don't really know why as I always enjoyed them myself .... Even on the boring years.

I'm actually quite said this will disappear.

 

[hemo memo]

Or unlike you, Sony stopped living in the past and realized they didn’t have to travel hundreds of people from all their teams, hire expensive stuff for their shows, only to give us videos that would be on YouTube the next minute, which is where 99% of everyone sees them anyway, and not inside that conference room like back in the 90s. Add to that the fact they stopped giving CGI trailers for games coming out in 5 years, and only what’s coming over the next year, so it made no sense to do these bloated 1 hour and half shows.

We get the videos anyway instead of pressuring every damn team out there to have something for that specific week as a made up rule every year, in a time each game has huge development cycles. That’s lost time, lost personnel and resources for no reason for demos and trailers for games years away. Imagine thinking that in 2023 we need to have the same games showing up on E3 for years until they actually come out.

And until they actually come out? We have toxic topics in places like GAF complaining how pre-alpha stuff doesn’t look too good, and people on Twitter examining every damn detail on unfinished products.

It was an outdated format and no one gains anything from it from a marketing perspective. Speaking of marketing cycles, you don’t need years to promote one game. We don’t get news in magazines anymore. Sony saw it first, the others caught up with it.

They didn’t have to do all that. They could share a video and be done with it. Sony is doing this so they can be at their own timeline. Good for them but awful for people who want consistency in news timing and source instead of this stupid backward everyone is doing their own thing at their own time stuff. Consumers get lost. Most of the lesser known games get lost because E3 used to highlight the big and small. It is the period people expect and look for news.

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

They didn’t have to do all that. They could share a video and be done with it. Sony is doing this so they can be at their own timeline. Good for them but awful for people who want consistency in news timing and source instead of this stupid backward everyone is doing their own thing at their own time stuff. Consumers get lost. Most of the lesser known games get lost because E3 used to highlight the big and small. It is the period people expect and look for news.

Consumers watch the videos on youtube. Most people don't watch these shows live. No one gets lost...clearly. Judging by the millions of views many games get from State of Plays and Directs, clearly E3 wasn't needed. Just saying.

Look i also enjoyed that week. The conference days felt like Christmas. I get that. I also miss that craziness. But it's not weird to see how outdated that concept was in 2023.

 

[SJRB]

Bosman is slowly transforming into a dude that looks like he could get arrested at any moment for killing hobos with blunt objects and throwing their remains into a woodchipper.

 

[Azurro]

They didn’t have to do all that. They could share a video and be done with it. Sony is doing this so they can be at their own timeline. Good for them but awful for people who want consistency in news timing and source instead of this stupid backward everyone is doing their own thing at their own time stuff. Consumers get lost. Most of the lesser known games get lost because E3 used to highlight the big and small. It is the period people expect and look for news.

That's actually backwards, the big games got all the attention at E3 while anything smaller got lost in the sea of news. It is obvious, you had all the major platform holders and third parties gathered in one place to do their announcements over a single weekend, anything smaller was forgotten, so obviously things were going to change as soon as YouTube got as big as it did.

 

[Ansphn]

The day PlayStation left was the day E3 was done for...Xbox wasn't bringing in the audience.

 

[Batiman]

Can't speak for him or anyone else, but I sure as shit hated the sweaty CEO's strutting around stage, trying to be all cool with "hey kids check this out" and the boring numbers and the bullshit fluff.

That was like 10 min out of a whole show worth of games. Worth it

 

[Thaedolus]

Mods could probably delete “2023” from the title tbh…

 

[Kvally]

Sony, Nintendo, Ubisoft, Microsoft, EA, etc all do their shows now. All on their schedule, and I am totally fine with that. State of Play, Xbox Developer_Direct, Nintendo Direct all work for me. Times a changin'

 

[hemo memo]

That's actually backwards, the big games got all the attention at E3 while anything smaller got lost in the sea of news. It is obvious, you had all the major platform holders and third parties gathered in one place to do their announcements over a single weekend, anything smaller was forgotten, so obviously things were going to change as soon as YouTube got as big as it did.

Not everyone is following game news everyday. People watch E3 because they know E3 is their station for the news of all gaming in that year. Now news is scattered throughout the year. The majority will surely miss most of it and more and more of “I didn’t know this game released” is not surprising to me.

It is backward.

 

[Filthy Casual]

RIP E3

One of the main reasons I joined GAF initially was to be a part of all the buzz and hype during E3. Back when everyone just wanted to get excited and talk shit, when everything wasn't about politics and bla bla.

Ah well, getting too old for this shit now anyway

 

[Azurro]

Not everyone is following game news everyday. People watch E3 because they know E3 is their station for the news of all gaming in that year. Now news is scattered throughout the year. The majority will surely miss most of it and more and more of “I didn’t know this game released” is not surprising to me.

It is backward.

Most everyone follows gaming news online, on YouTube, not live at a specific weekend of the year. Aside from the fact that all smaller publishers and games got buried under the MS, Nintendo, Sony, EA, Ubi Soft and such coverage. It served a purpose before, but it's useless now.

 

[BootsLoader]

That’s bad news for the gaming industry (I’m talking from gamers perspective). It was like the World Cup of video games.
I know that companies are saving money and resources now with the YouTube videos but…they are not as entertaining and are soulless.

I hope one day E3 comes back. Otherwise, it’s been a good ride. Thanks for all the great moments.

 

[Davevil]

People have been bitching about E3 for years. I think it got multiple times worse after like PS3/360 era.

I didn't care either way, I was never gonna fly to LA to be there, and I jut wanted to see the games, which is what most wanted, game previews, and people by that point could easily just stream content and not have to contend with getting that information and content sieved through game journos. Well I guess it still gets sieved through the Game devs and pubs marketing teams, game journos and influencers who get early access and previews, but at least you get the content instantly now.

I hope more more game pubs take a page from Nintendo though, not just the 'Direct' style of content, but the Treehouse as well. Direct gameplay of games being played and interviews with the devs, NOT those bullshit staged 'gameplay demos' and stilted, cringe af talking bits, with game dev journals where we see devs 90% of the time, which is then inter cut with 10% game art and game footage.

But E3 will probably come back. Though publishers will likely see the benefit in having complete control of over who they can invite to preview, not having to pay large sums to event organisers and no fuckups live on stage overshadowing their games.

In fact as I wrote, the beauty of E3 was in conjunction with the presentation of the new consoles.
But also the cringe presentations of the games were a must.
I hate the direct formula, so lifeless and boring

 

[Yargonaut]

I hope more more game pubs take a page from Nintendo though, not just the 'Direct' style of content, but the Treehouse as well. Direct gameplay of games being played and interviews with the devs,

I think this is the way to go. CG trailers are nice, but nothing beats actually seeing long stretches of direct gameplay. The Nintendo Treehouse events became some of the more interesting things for me to watch and listen to during E3 from like 2015 onwards. Always wished more companies would do something like that.

 

[cinnamonandgravy]

We are not allowed to have fun anymore. I want cringe presentations goddamit.

and booth babes.

 

[cinnamonandgravy]

 

[0neAnd0nly]

It’s ok, remember how ~90% of people said that Sony and Microsoft would release banger events frequently on their own time…?


Remember???


It’s TOTALLY been the case! Yay!

 

[SaintALia]

In fact as I wrote, the beauty of E3 was in conjunction with the presentation of the new consoles.
But also the cringe presentations of the games were a must.
I hate the direct formula, so lifeless and boring

I watch E3 for games, I don't care about the FAIL/cringe stuff when the presentations are botched. Seeing people being embarassed and shit flopping is not something I'm personally fond of. At the end of the day, it's still people trying to sell you on something and I just want to see games.

And people seemingly forget that presentations in E3 besides the cringe stuff can be MASSIVELY boring. The Direct at least streamlines things, but some conferences were such horrible slogs. I have never seen a 'Direct style' presentation as slow and boring as the the worst E3 conferences, yet. People remember meme Wii guy and GIANT ENEMY CRAB, but not the many long hours of sitting through mindless talking trash.

Presentation of consoles is gonna be the same to me watching from home. Just give me a video of what the console looks like, specs, games running, and hand on previews, which console makers can easily do by inviting press to a preview event anyway.

 

[Ownage]

The ESA.

Pandering to Karens, woke DEI, absolutely tone deaf towards the industry fan base, politicizing an industry to the left as much as Mike Gallagher and his ultra right wing lot fucked up after Doug Lowenstein left.

 

[Fret Runner]

All the game makers can easily do their own streams nowadays and get the same amount of attention.
E3 became pointless years ago. The affinity people have for it has always baffled me. Aside from derpy "who won E3" retard wars.