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[samoilaaa]

Just look at demon's soul , the remake has amazing graphics , draw distance but it seems that it lost all its dark fantasy feeling , now it looks like a generic fantasy game

Bloodborne has some if not the best lovecraftian atmosphere , i seriously doubt that they could keep that if they made a remake , maybe a remaster with resolution and framerate upgrade

 

[SeraphJan]

The Demon's Souls remake was great in terms of atmosphere, it might look generic in your eyes but that's not a fact. However do note that it released in a time where the series and gaming as a whole had evolved much more, imaging the reception if remake's artistic style was released at 2009, it not the game's fault.

Same might or might not happen to Bloodborne, however you could always go back and play the original, its not like giving player choice will suddenly make the original game disappear.

 

[Beer Baelly]

Just turn the brightness down

 

[mansoor1980]

it can only be bad if bluepoint do not remake/remaster it
DS remake is one of the best looking most polished games out there

 

[Zheph]

What did it lost? You guys always overreacting about anything, the remake is fantastic

 

[mrmustard]

It's all a matter of taste, but i agree with the OP. Demon Souls 2020 is a good and polished game, but to me they missed to catch the dark/dirty and oppressive feeling the old game had and with the overhaul most creatures lost much of their creepiness. Shadow of the Colossus 2018 on the other hand nailed it. 10/10.

 

[Bernardougf]

Just look at demon's soul , the remake has amazing graphics , draw distance but it seems that it lost all its dark fantasy feeling , now it looks like a generic fantasy game

Bloodborne has some if not the best lovecraftian atmosphere , i seriously doubt that they could keep that if they made a remake , maybe a remaster with resolution and framerate upgrade

Souls fan here, demons souls remake is fucking amazing (aesthetics personal preferences aside) and I play the shit out of it since launch to this day ... and the original bloodborne is a much better game than original demons souls ...

So OP ... sorry but not sorry.. you are just wrong

 

[samoilaaa]

it can only be bad if bluepoint do not remake/remaster it
DS remake is one of the best looking most polished games out there

i didnt say it didnt look or runs great , im saying that it doesnt feel like dark fantasy anymore , it looks like ur typical fantasy rpg

one of the main things that sets bloodborne apart is the unique lovecraftian atmopshere , i dont think they can replicate it

 

[Strider Highwind]

I never thought it needed much more than an official 60fps patch. One of my fave games, if it comes to PC I hope they just touch it up a little, make it look a little cleaner and let the frames fly.

 

[mansoor1980]

i didnt say it didnt look or runs great , im saying that it doesnt feel like dark fantasy anymore , it looks like ur typical fantasy rpg

one of the main things that sets bloodborne apart is the unique lovecraftian atmopshere , i dont think they can replicate it

what makes you say that
you think they will make it different in some way?

 

[Melfice7]

The thing i hated the most in demons souls remake was how they changed the music, FUCK THAT, at least let me have the option to use the original ost

A bloodborne remake just needs to be 60fps with no framepacing issues and option to turn off CA, ill buy 2 copies

 

[KungFucius]

No. A small group of fanatics want it. Most people do not care and many of them are sick of all the bloodborne begging and how the topic hijacks threads all over the place. I guess those people want the port too so they don't have to hear about it anymore.

 

[samoilaaa]

what makes you say that
you think they will make it different in some way?

yeah , if you take a look even at the trailers of the original and remake

the original had that feeling of despair and all hope is lost , there is no more light to look for , while the remake felt like a trailer for the next dragon age

 

[Thief1987]

Just look at demon's soul , the remake has amazing graphics , draw distance but it seems that it lost all its dark fantasy feeling , now it looks like a generic fantasy game

Every fromsoftware game beside Bloodborne looks like a generic dark fantasy medieval game.

 

[YukiOnna]

I don't really want a remake if they're going to change artistic aspects of it like Demon's Souls Remake. Plus, it wasn't FROM and Miyazaki's game and graphical advancement means nothing to me.

 

[Mr.Phoenix]

I came to agree with you, but after reading what you said about Demon's Souls, I have decided you are someone I cannot agree with.

Demon's Souls didn't lose anything... if anything it gained it. The issue with Demon's Souls is that it's a game in which probably over 80% of its sales went to people that hadn't just played the OG, but every other souls game since. It looks and plays great, but feels like you have been there before. like watching an old classic movie, that you still love, but in HD.

As for BB, my thing with it is that I feel it doesn't need a remake. Just needs a remaster. Make it 4K, 60fps, and call it a day.

 

[kyussman]

Remake/remaster talk about this game is nuts.....it needs 60fps and that's all.

 

[Azurro]

i didnt say it didnt look or runs great , im saying that it doesnt feel like dark fantasy anymore , it looks like ur typical fantasy rpg

one of the main things that sets bloodborne apart is the unique lovecraftian atmopshere , i dont think they can replicate it

What? Seriously, what? A few models are changed because the source textures literally did not have enough details for a modern production but that doesn't mean it lost its atmosphere, you guys exaggerate.

 

[DelireMan7]

Just turn the brightness down

I put it at max and could see shit in the dark areas. I even had to up my TV brightness xD

The thing i hated the most in demons souls remake was how they changed the music, FUCK THAT, at least let me have the option to use the original ost

This ! Some new version are really good (Old King Allant for example). The new "Maiden in Black" is a nice song but the complete change of atmosphere from the original is baffling to me. The original is probably my favorite with Firelink Shrine theme in the whole franchise.

Demon's Souls Remake is pretty for sure. Better than the original ? On some areas yes, on some others no. While I was a defender of "don't touch the gameplay" before its release, after playing it I was "they should have the gameplay". And now that I have played REmake 2 & 3, I really think Remakes should really change thing up compare to original games (while being faithful to it, REmake 2 is a perfect example of that for me). But Resident Evil Remake is probably a counter example

I'll stop on Demon's Souls Remake or I'll enter into nitpick territory (why keep the inventory limit/storage box if you had a "send to box" option ?!). Overall it's an amazing game so it's fine.


On Bloodborne... A remaster would be fire. A Remake... Well I don't think it needs it.
That being said, I am fine with playing the original so i don't really care

 

[Spaceman292]

Just because the original Demon's Souls had a yellow filter and muddy PS3 textures doesn't mean it was more artistic than the remake.

 

[rofif]

Just don’t make a remake or don’t change art

 

[NoobSmog]

The thing i hated the most in demons souls remake was how they changed the music, FUCK THAT, at least let me have the option to use the original ost

A bloodborne remake just needs to be 60fps with no framepacing issues and option to turn off CA, ill buy 2 copies

This is the only thing I will agree is worse in the Demon's Souls remake. Most of the music is worse.

Everything else is fantastic though.

 

[Mister Wolf]

All Sony need to do is make the resolution 4K and unlock the framerate. Leave everything else alone. I dont need Bluepoint's cover band version of Bloodborne. They need to start making original games.

 

[Wildebeest]

It is easier to look good remaking a game that people have serious problems with, while with Bloodborne you even have people saying that the low framerate choppy gameplay is essential to the experience.

 

[RoboFu]

I want a sequel not a remake, but if they also put it on PC then I won’t mind that much.

 

[Danjin44]

If Bluepoints do remake then I agree. Either FROM does the remake or just do simple patch for PS5.

 

[lh032]

as expected, these "original" fanboy boomers dissing bluepoint again.

 

[Tsaki]

Bluepoint should definitely remake it then. Original DS was the definition of PS3-ugly.

 

[Northeastmonk]

I have to see it to believe it. Nothing is official.

 

[Fake]

Just 60 fps and all good. Bluepoint have this nonsense ideia of changing things they don't like.

 

[MiguelItUp]

Demon's Souls was a beautiful remake, so I don't agree there, personally.

If it was a remaster, it would be the same game, but it would perform better. People honestly just want a remaster/PC port, and that's it, lol.

 

[kuncol02]

What? Seriously, what? A few models are changed because the source textures literally did not have enough details for a modern production but that doesn't mean it lost its atmosphere, you guys exaggerate.

Few models? They replaced styles of whole buildings in background...

 

[StylishMGTOW]

Just look at demon's soul , the remake has amazing graphics , draw distance but it seems that it lost all its dark fantasy feeling , now it looks like a generic fantasy game

Bloodborne has some if not the best lovecraftian atmosphere , i seriously doubt that they could keep that if they made a remake , maybe a remaster with resolution and framerate upgrade

10000% Agree!

Bluepoint ruined what made Demon's Souls 2009 special: the atmosphere and music. Music in the remake is generic, with some "modern sensitivities" sprinkled in its character creation. It's a poor, sad excuse for a remake.

 

[Agent_4Seven]

If Bluepoint is doing it, I'm it, but I will never play original ~17FPS mess of game in 1080p on PS5.

 

[consoul]

No, everybody doesn't want a Bloodborne remake. A PS5 patch for the game we all already own would be fine, thanks.

 

[Azurro]

Few models? They replaced styles of whole buildings in background...

What do you propose? There was not enough detail in the source textures so they had to get a bit creative, but they captured the spirit very well. It's somber, dark and going through the levels is intimidating, just like in the original and looks really impressive to boot.

What you apparently want is just a remaster, just increase resolution and that's it. You would have better luck with an emulator, no remake would ever satisfy you.

 

[kuncol02]

What do you propose? There was not enough detail in the source textures so they had to get a bit creative, but they captured the spirit very well. It's somber, dark and going through the levels is intimidating, just like in the original and looks really impressive to boot.

What you apparently want is just a remaster, just increase resolution and that's it. You would have better luck with an emulator, no remake would ever satisfy you.

Do you understand what "architectual style of building changed" means? They replaced romanesque architecture with generic high fantasy buildings.

 

[TrueLegend]

It's the way it is done..... Proper volumetric fog will just be so gorgeous in any dark Souls or bloodborne game.... But it will also kill the framerate. Bloodborne like TLOU one with volumetric fog and Rtao will look stunning and I don't even like Bloodborne art style that much... the beauty of bloodborne is in gameplay just like any from soft game.

 

[Fake]

No, everybody doesn't want a Bloodborne remake. A PS5 patch for the game we all already own would be fine, thanks.

Indeed. Bloodborne is a great game and people here are mistaking perfomance issues with art direction.

The game just need a bump in internal resolution and 60 fps. No need to destroy the art direction of the game with unecessary graphics.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

All Sony need to do is make the resolution 4K and unlock the framerate. Leave everything else alone. I dont need Bluepoint's cover band version of Bloodborne. They need to start making original games.

No. They don't. They aren't built for that. This is like asking a dentist to start doing open heart surgery. That is not their specialty. Bluepoint until demonstrates otherwise, is a port/remake studio.

I had hoped Bluepoint would have been given the opportunity to do the 6th Archstone for Demons Souls remake as DLC. Something that could have showcased what they can do, but it never came.

 

[Boots_the_God]

Just turn the brightness down

All the way down

 

[Boots_the_God]

No. They don't. They aren't built for that. This is like asking a dentist to start doing open heart surgery. That is not their specialty. Bluepoint until demonstrates otherwise, is a port/remake studio.

I had hoped Bluepoint would have been given the opportunity to do the 6th Archstone for Demons Souls remake as DLC. Something that could have showcased what they can do, but it never came.

How would they demonstrate they’re ready to make original titles unless they try making an original title? It’s about time they took the training wheels off.

 

[bender]

Give it to Blooper Team and making it a walking simulator so we don't need to hear cries about an easy mode.

 

[IlGialloMondadori]

Just look at demon's soul , the remake has amazing graphics , draw distance but it seems that it lost all its dark fantasy feeling , now it looks like a generic fantasy game

Bloodborne has some if not the best lovecraftian atmosphere , i seriously doubt that they could keep that if they made a remake , maybe a remaster with resolution and framerate upgrade

You're generic.

 

[skneogaf]

I only need it to be 4k@60fps

 

[Esppiral]

I'd rather prefer to get a remake of a good game

 

[kvltus lvlzvs]

Im ok if they just fix the fps and up the resolution. the game looks fine as is.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

How would they demonstrate they’re ready to make original titles unless they try making an original title? It’s about time they took the training wheels off.

Because there has been no indication that that they have the personnel to do that. Studios that specialize in porting/remaking dont have the same staff that those that make AAA games have.

 

[digdug2]

A remake is unwarranted IMO because the original's artstyle is fucking incredible and implemented so well. As stated by plenty of others, a resolution and framerate bump would pretty much do it. HDR implementation would really make everything pop too. I'm not a developer though, so I don't know how difficult HDR is to add after the fact.

 

[digdug2]

Because there has been no indication that that they have the personnel to do that. Studios that specialize in porting/remaking dont have the same staff that those that make AAA games have.

There's a pretty solid indicator that they have the personnel to do it. When Bluepoint was acquired by Sony back in 2021, they stated that their next project would be an original title and not a remake.