GigaBowser
The bear of bad news
I'll starts with Cyberpunk what a frunking let down
It should be illegals to do this
It should be illegals to do this
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Fakest demos vs actual games ever?
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SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Another bullshit trailer
Mahnmut
Member
This takes the crown, even if the final product was great it was nowhere near this level of quality.
Cyberpunkd
Gold Member
You didn't notice the "WORK IN PROGRESS - NOT FINAL" plastered across the screen?
GymWolf
Member
Pretty much every Kinekt game Microsoft tried to peddle back in the day.
The cringe is strong in this one...
Pretty much every Kinekt game Microsoft tried to peddle back in the day.
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Cyberpunk can look better than the original trailer.
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Nankatsu
Member
Still waiting for this on PS5.
Perrott
Gold Member
A "work in progress" is expected to become a better, more polished version of itself by release, not dramatically worse than what is being showcased at that early stage.
Don't make excuses for the irredeemable shitshow that was Cyberpunk's entire marketing cycle.
Gaiff
Member
The biggest lie was trying to sell the idea that a British kid could be likeable.
crackajack
Member
CGI stuff is imho more tolerable than fake on stage "live gameplay" lies.
The first ones are usually far away from release so should never be trusted as being anything specific appearing in the game, and they possible themselves don't know how close they can get in the final product- it's just a target for themselves-, especially before the HW is even out proper, but once they pretend it's close to the final product, what you actually will get at home, it is deceitful and the above Kinect BS takes the cake for me.
The first ones are usually far away from release so should never be trusted as being anything specific appearing in the game, and they possible themselves don't know how close they can get in the final product- it's just a target for themselves-, especially before the HW is even out proper, but once they pretend it's close to the final product, what you actually will get at home, it is deceitful and the above Kinect BS takes the cake for me.
Rykan
Member
Ehh I don't really think it's fair. The Killzone 2 trailer was very obviously CGI. Nothing about it looks like actual gameplay. There's not even a hud. IIRC, it was mistakenly reported as gameplay during an interview.
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Laptop1991
Member
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Gotta be the worst one for me, i got ripped off at the time by that trailer, i still haven't finished or played the game since
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Insane Metal
Member
Motorstorm still hurts.
RoboFu
One of the green rats
That cyberpunk video is stupid. There are areas in the pc version at least where you see that many people and of course the different times of day make it seem drastically different.
With threads like this and all Spider-Man flak you guys seem to get off on hyperbolic negativity.
With threads like this and all Spider-Man flak you guys seem to get off on hyperbolic negativity.
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GymWolf
Member
I think it is perfectly fair, people was tricked by the first person view and it looked like that was an example of how the game should have ended looking.
If you don't wanna trick people, then make a generic war cg trailer and not something in first person that replicate how you play the game.
They knew exactly what they were doing with that trailer even if it was mismanaged.
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Snake29
RSI Employee of the Year
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
Surprised no one’s mentioned the Anthem “demo” at E3 2017. The game hadn’t really even been started yet. It was just thrown together to put on a good press conference.
nkarafo
Member
Even if the actor didn't fuck up his moves, did they expect us to believe the animation in this obviously scripted scene is controlled by him?
I know the Wii existed already and all but this right here, this was the moment i realized the gaming industry is now mainstream and they cater to the lowest IQ, lowest common denominator average joe.
supernova8
Banned
Also if I remember correctly the video and audio were off during the actual Killzone 2 CGI bullshit reveal, which kinda suggested to me at the time that ... maybe... it was all a big lie.
Ironically, Killzone 2 ended up looking great so I don't even understand why they felt the need to lie. Maybe they just didn't have the level anywhere near ready and came up with some CGI that looked like what they were kinda aiming for (that level is in the game right, it just doesn't look as good).
edit: I went back and watched the e3 2005 reveal and then the e3 2007 reveal and then actual gameplay from the released version. Looks like they downgraded it massively between e3 2005 and e3 2007 but also downgraded it a bit more in the retail release. Most obvious thing is the even shittier fire/explosion particles/animations for the famous sequence where one of the dropships gets blown out of the sky.
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T4keD0wN
Member
With crowd density on high the trailer is not far from the game. On the other hand the ai is still far from great even after the updates.
Anthem demo was apparently as fake as it gets. I am waiting for black myth wukong to join these ranks.
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Yoboman
Member
These were apparently concept trailers never meant to be seen by the public. Somebody in Sony marketing just threw them into the E3 reel. Sony really fucked with its devs that E3
Cyberpunkd
Gold Member
The first previews are almost always a vertical slice of a game. At that point in time the full power was probably given to render that one scene with everything outside FoV not existing (they explained in the Witcher 3 GDC video how it is done most of the time, which is also a reason why FoV on consoles is so small). Likewise you can use the Witcher 3 trailer, they did the same thing.
Don't fall for marketing and hype machine.
crackajack
Member
It was just their own target, probably not knowing exactly how far they will be able to push Cell and the nvidia crap themselves and Sony had to show something and impressing was necessary to catch up with MS's Halo and Gears or whatever they have shown then, so they went a bit too far in their optimism, nevertheless nailing the look and feel pretty good, just not with that fidelity. Downgrades happen and most of the time it's not tragic imho, people should just not believe anything before actual hands on demos of practically final products.
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SF Kosmo
Al Jazeera Special Reporter
Cyberpunk wasn't even that bad it was mostly like a lot of juiced NPC activity and stuff which is pretty typical in "vertical slice" demos.
Dude that trailer literaly has "After Effects" intergrated into it for smoke ect....its not even a "work in progress" its complete BS.
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GymWolf
Member
Fifa has better hairs.
"Never Forgive, Never Forget"
Ok you got me. Its atleast on par for sure.
supernova8
Banned
Plus voice chat on consoles has never sounded as good as that anyway
It has way less to do with there false claims as much as it is about the countless online fans claiming to this very day that the game matched it or even got close. Some of which are in this thread as we speak.
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Rykan
Member
But there's plenty of games that had trailers taking place in first person that clearly use CGI. Bioshock 2 and Crysis are just two games that jump to mind.
The trailer doesn't replicate actual gameplay that much. There's no HUD, shots are fired off center and there's not even an aiming reticle. None of the camera movement or character movements make any sense from a gameplay perspective.
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DaleinCalgary
Member
Brutal Legend
Evil Calvin
Afraid of Boobs
They always say 'in development' or 'work in progress'. They also often build games with higher specs and downgrade them later. It's not illegal. That is development. If they showed a trailer after release that was nothing like the game then ok.
SF Kosmo
Al Jazeera Special Reporter
They specifically claimed it was recorded from PS3 hardware. Which I think it was, albeit at like 2 fps and then played back at 30fps.
Toots
Gold Member
First day on the internet ?
Anthem was one of the craziest downgrade ever, but let's not forget of course most of Ubisoft output...
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
There was no in game footage. The entire trailer - like the Killzone 2 trailer, was bullshit.
Morrie’s wig shop
Member
Alls this first page is your resident Sony and Xbox boys clowning on each other lol.
nkarafo
Member
StueyDuck
Member
This is always my go to. I remember watching it many many times.
Luckily the game lived up to expectations. Sure it wasn't graphically that good but it damn well delivered muddy dirty monster truck smashing high octane racing...
And then we got pacific Rift (crosses legs)
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StueyDuck
Member
People fell for this one and cp2077 pretty hard.
I was surprised to see people thinking anything we saw was real. Just because there's BS cool kid MP banter over it means it must be real hahaha
Add the division to that list as well
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